Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Might anyone have any recommendations on effective pepper spray products for protection against large, aggressive, loose-running dogs? No, I don't want to shoot 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I'll carry Sabre Pepper Gel while walking the dog. I have no first hand experience, but the gel should be less susceptible to the wind. Check your state laws, some states have restrictions on the carrying and use of pepper spray. You may also want to contact your local animal control officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Don't they issue some kind of anti-dog spray to the mailman? Maybe you should check with the post office. See what they use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 California law on tear gas weapons (pepper spray)...just so assumptions can be kept in check.https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN§ionNum=22810. Also, California can’t just outright say “pepper spray” because that would be too easy. Bureaucrat scum. So I added these sites by law firms. https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/use-of-tear-gas-and-pepper-spray-in-california-56303 https://www.ivanmorselaw.com/blog/2018/january/is-pepper-spray-illegal-in-california-/ Very good synopsis of CA laws with a jazzy video. https://www.pepper-spray-store.com/pages/california-laws In California it is legal to carry aerosol pepper spray in containers no larger than 2.5 ounces. You can use a projectile firing pepper spray device despite what a couple of websites, that I did not link here, say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Better off with a can of Bear spray. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Chantry said: I'll carry Sabre Pepper Gel while walking the dog. I have no first hand experience, but the gel should be less susceptible to the wind. Check your state laws, some states have restrictions on the carrying and use of pepper spray. You may also want to contact your local animal control officer I second the Sabre Pepper Gel. Think of it as Silly String with bad intentions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 The biggest advantage of animal (bear) spray is that it is delivered in a wide cone so accuracy is not a great requirement. Human pepper spray is often a confined stream so accuracy can be very important. The amount of active ingredient is not really an issue as dogs and bears sense of smell and taste are significantly more sensitive than humans. The down side is the wider dispersal area means that you could also end up getting a dose. Differences Between Animal (Dog or Bear) Spray and Human Pepper Spray What’s the difference between bear spray and pepper spray? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Bear spray has a longer range of spray OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Better off with a can of Bear spray. OLG 17 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said: The biggest advantage of animal (bear) spray is that it is delivered in a wide cone so accuracy is not a great requirement. Human pepper spray is often a confined stream so accuracy can be very important. The amount of active ingredient is not really an issue as dogs and bears sense of smell and taste are significantly more sensitive than humans. The down side is the wider dispersal area means that you could also end up getting a dose. Differences Between Animal (Dog or Bear) Spray and Human Pepper Spray What’s the difference between bear spray and pepper spray? One can carry bear spray but carrying it in areas where bears do not frequent may raise the eyebrows of law enforcement. Turner’s Outdoorsman carries it: https://www.turners.com/all-products/browse/keyword/bear-spray Sportsman’s Warehouse in Fresno carries it. https://www.sportsmans.com/search/?text=bear+spray https://findanyanswer.com/is-it-legal-to-carry-bear-spray-in-california Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 47 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said: What’s the difference between bear spray and pepper spray? Little bells? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Chantry said: I'll carry Sabre Pepper Gel while walking the dog. I have no first hand experience, but the gel should be less susceptible to the wind. Check your state laws, some states have restrictions on the carrying and use of pepper spray. You may also want to contact your local animal control officer You can bet your sweet bippy that California does. Have you considered a really loud air horn and a sock full of pennies?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: just so assumptions can be kept in check Nice Pat. I always like how people ask legal questions on here without doing any real research. 'Does anyone know the laws for gun ownership in Albania?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 32 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: You can bet your sweet bippy that California does. Have you considered a really loud air horn and a sock full of pennies?? I'm not in California, I'm in Connecticut and I would have called the local animal control officer already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Okay, as a Parole Agent I did use my department issued pepper spray on dogs many times over the years. Spray straight into the dog's muzzle and eyes. It worked most of the time, but there were two dogs it did not affect. Just like with people, some are more tolerant than others. I know one mailman who carried a small spray bottle filled with ammonia that he used on several dogs over the years and swore by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Alpo said: Don't they issue some kind of anti-dog spray to the mailman? Maybe you should check with the post office. See what they use. Postal workers are not allowed to carry or use pepper spray. If somebody has an aggressive dog they simply don't have to deliver the mail to that address and will place it on delivery hold. A bit late when it's already attached to your leg, of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 wasp spray ? ......... 4 metre jet of obnoxious stuff that makes it hard to breathe ..... comes in a big can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 28 minutes ago, Sixgun Sheridan said: Postal workers are not allowed to carry or use pepper spray. If somebody has an aggressive dog they simply don't have to deliver the mail to that address and will place it on delivery hold. A bit late when it's already attached to your leg, of course... USPS carriers here in MO, and when I lived in CA carried spray. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 3 hours ago, irish ike, SASS #43615 said: Nice Pat. I always like how people ask legal questions on here without doing any real research. 'Does anyone know the laws for gun ownership in Albania?' "Gun ownership in Albania?" Well... if you check 'em out, be sure to report back. While you're at it, can you see what sorta pepper spray them Albanians use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 24 minutes ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: While you're at it, can you see what sorta pepper spray them Albanians use? They get the special toxic version from Laughestan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 6 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: One can carry bear spray but carrying it in areas where bears do not frequent may raise the eyebrows of law enforcement. Turner’s Outdoorsman carries it: https://www.turners.com/all-products/browse/keyword/bear-spray Sportsman’s Warehouse in Fresno carries it. https://www.sportsmans.com/search/?text=bear+spray https://findanyanswer.com/is-it-legal-to-carry-bear-spray-in-california Thankee for the research, Pat! Dangit... I was within a quarter mile of Sportsman's Warehouse in Fresno just yesterday - but it's a sixty mile round trip from home. But I'll be back in Fresno next Toosday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: USPS carriers here in MO, and when I lived in CA carried spray. OLG My ex works for USPS here in WA, and they are not allowed to possess it on PO premises nor have it in their carrier vehicles. In fact they can't even leave it in their parked car if it's on PO property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: "Gun ownership in Albania?" Well... if you check 'em out, be sure to report back. While you're at it, can you see what sorta pepper spray them Albanians use? They are a shall issue country for handgun and long gun permits including semi-auto firearms. Albania does allow limited concealed carry if you have a good enough reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Sixgun Sheridan said: My ex works for USPS here in WA, and they are not allowed to possess it on PO premises nor have it in their carrier vehicles. In fact they can't even leave it in their parked car if it's on PO property. Got to be a Washington thang..... OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Washington is a thing...a bad bad thing...reminds me of a song...... But, I digress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 14 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: USPS carriers here in MO, and when I lived in CA carried spray. OLG When I lived in Ca I knew a postal carrier that was issued a gun . It was only for 1 day a month if I remember right he said he was delivering negotiable bonds . This was in the 80’s so I don’t doubt policies may have changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc McCoy, SASS #8381 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 My wife was a letter carried 15 years ago. That is about the time they stopped the use of pepper spray. Until then they had a standard issue spray. It was a sudden and full about face policy change from giving carriers a can to don't use anything. I kept her last can. Also, federal and state laws make it illegal to use any pesticide (e.g. wasp spray) in a manner inconsistent with the labeling. You won't find dogs listed on the wasp spray label. Dogs respond well to pepper spray, any type of OC. Tear gas is not useful on dogs, they don't even know they've been sprayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filthy Harry, SASS #24924 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 On 3/10/2021 at 6:26 AM, Alpo said: Don't they issue some kind of anti-dog spray to the mailman? Maybe you should check with the post office. See what they use. Worked at the Post Office 31 years. main problem with our pepper spray was having it blow back in your face when you sprayed the dog. I never had that happen, but we got plenty of calls from Carriers needing to stop delivery cause they sprayed themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filthy Harry, SASS #24924 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 On 3/10/2021 at 6:01 AM, Chantry said: I'll carry Sabre Pepper Gel while walking the dog. I have no first hand experience, but the gel should be less susceptible to the wind. Check your state laws, some states have restrictions on the carrying and use of pepper spray. You may also want to contact your local animal control officer Tried to order that from AMAZON HERE IN wISCONSIN and they won't deliver it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Do White House Secret Service agents carry dog spray? Maybe they should have as Biden's dog attacked an agent. Both dogs have been banished to Delaware, at least until they have been acclimated to people around the WH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 44 minutes ago, Filthy Harry, SASS #24924 said: Tried to order that from AMAZON HERE IN wISCONSIN and they won't deliver it. Odd, because Amazon is where I got mine from. It might be state law: Canisters must be less than two ounces, Oleoresin Capsicum (OC) concentration should be 10% or less, Cannot be disguised as a common item or can’t be camouflaged. https://concealcarrylaw.co/legal-self-defense-weapons-in-wisconsin/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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