Thoughts on it ain't gonna happen.

[Raylan]

Back when my health was better and I could afford to take more time from work, I was very active in my states politics involving the right to keep and bear arms. Every year excluding a very few years, we (being in Illinois) were faced with a raft of gun control bills. I often would talk with gun owning peers and ask and encourage them to lobby with me, make a call to their rep or senator, write a letter, or vote for the candidate who supported the RKBA. (I am still active but can't be as active and hands on directly helping as much as I did).

 

What I heard back all too often was, well it won't happen, they won't pass it. All I could think was, yeah you know why it didn't pass, cause me and a host of other dedicated people worked their asses off, organizing, writing, calling, showing up in Springfield for votes, lobbying, reaching out to hold community meeting not just down state but in the enemy territory of Chicago and collar counties. 

 

So when I hear someone say, it ain't gonna pass, I think well if it doesn't it won't be because of people saying it ain't gonna pass; it will be because a lot of people fought like hell spending their time, effort, and treasure preventing it. We have lost a lot, but we did win concealed carry with the help of the courts. But if it weren't for a lot of hard work over more than a decade even with the courts we would have only gotten a may issue bill with a raft of restrictions. But because we put in the sweat and work we got a bill the was shall issue with much fewer restrictions. 

 

The only thing that's worse is the Bull crap - "They ain't trying to take the guns."

 

Anyway, end of rant.

[Captain Dan Hamilton]

"They ain't trying to take the guns." It is nice that the statement can no longer be used. We don't have to put up with that lie any more. 

[Waxahachie Kid #17017 L]

The statement: "it won't/can't happen" has got to be one of the biggest errors anyone, or any country, can make. 

Any stated goal, no matter how absurd, can happen. 

If something is a stated goal, by someone, or group of someone's, then, given time, it may/can happen.

Then, one day, we will all wake up, and it has happened, and it's too late to really dig in and do anything about it.

As we all should know, at this point-in-time, in this country, and indeed, this world, there are at least two major mind-sets out there, vying, for dominance. Our two major political parties, are proof of that. Liberal vs. conservative. Traditional vs. non-traditional. Rules/laws, vs anything goes.

Who would have even dreamed, not too many years ago, that socialism would be so accepted by today's youth as a viable alternative to anything?

Who would have even dreamed, not too long ago, that the nuclear family, and traditional values, would be so reviled?
Who would have believed, not too long ago, that an effort to defund the law enforcement, and send in social workers, would even be considered?

Who would have believed, not too long ago, that rioters would, or could, take over a section of a large American city, and hold it, and the local governmental bodies refuse to send in law enforcement to end the ciaos?  

Whose fault is it? Let's be honest. It's my fault. It's your fault. We all innately know what is right, and what is wrong. But it is easier to do nothing, or to do the wrong thing, than it is to do the right thing. That's because doing the right thing takes effort! Doing nothing, or doing the wrong thing, takes little to no effort...and we, more often than not, take the path of least resistance. We don't read anymore. We don't study anymore. Most could not even tell you one of the Bill of Rights. We are in the situation we are in because we are willfully ignorant, or just plain lazy, or we don't see the importance of the issues, down the road.

REMEMBER EDMUND BURK'S FAMOUS QUOTE !!! 

 

     

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

37 minutes ago, Raylan said:

Back when my health was better and I could afford to take more time from work, I was very active in my states politics involving the right to keep and bear arms. Every year excluding a very few years, we (being in Illinois) were faced with a raft of gun control bills. I often would talk with gun owning peers and ask and encourage them to lobby with me, make a call to their rep or senator, write a letter, or vote for the candidate who supported the RKBA. (I am still active but can't be as active and hands on directly helping as much as I did).

 

What I heard back all too often was, well it won't happen, they won't pass it. All I could think was, yeah you know why it didn't pass, cause me and a host of other dedicated people worked their asses off, organizing, writing, calling, showing up in Springfield for votes, lobbying, reaching out to hold community meeting not just down state but in the enemy territory of Chicago and collar counties. 

 

So when I hear someone say, it ain't gonna pass, I think well if it doesn't it won't be because of people saying it ain't gonna pass; it will be because a lot of people fought like hell spending their time, effort, and treasure preventing it. We have lost a lot, but we did win concealed carry with the help of the courts. But if it weren't for a lot of hard work over more than a decade even with the courts we would have only gotten a may issue bill with a raft of restrictions. But because we put in the sweat and work we got a bill the was shall issue with much fewer restrictions. 

 

The only thing that's worse is the Bull crap - "They ain't trying to take the guns."

 

Anyway, end of rant.

Went through all of that excuse-ridden crap in California for 40 years.  I finally gave up, packed my bags and moved to Arizona.  Now we are under severe attack here and I'm beginning to hear the same thing all over again.  I don't have another 40 years in me.

[J-BAR #18287]

My wife gave me a copy of “The Standard Catalog Of Smith & Wesson 4th edition”. by Jim Supica and Richard Nahas.  This one:

 

 

It is fun to read.  On page 7, there is this statement:

 

 

 

 

[Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217]

5 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

Went through all of that excuse-ridden crap in California for 40 years.  I finally gave up, packed my bags and moved to Arizona.  Now we are under severe attack here and I'm beginning to hear the same thing all over again.  I don't have another 40 years in me.

[Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474]

"They ain't trying to take our guns!"

Yeah - Right !

Here in Canada, we thought(hoped) that too.

Now we find more and more being banned regularly.

The latest?

ALL AR platforms by ALL makers.

And Wait! There's more!!!

[Raylan]

1 hour ago, Captain Dan Hamilton said:

"They ain't trying to take the guns." It is nice that the statement can no longer be used. We don't have to put up with that lie any more. 

You would think, yet I still hear that crap from liberal co-workers and aquaintences.

1 hour ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

Went through all of that excuse-ridden crap in California for 40 years.  I finally gave up, packed my bags and moved to Arizona.  Now we are under severe attack here and I'm beginning to hear the same thing all over again.  I don't have another 40 years in me.

While I can't know how you feel, I can sure relate to that sentiment. 

 

Jbar - I agree we need to support gun rights groups like the NRA. I also wish more people would support the state level guns rights organizations because that is where the heavy lifting is done in the states - no fault to the NRA or other national groups - they can't be expected to know the ins and outs of all 50 states and carry the fight in each while carrying on the national fight too. SAF is a good organization too they tackle the courts. Got tired of hearing people complain about the NRA not doing enough in Illinois as an excuse when they didn't know what the NRA was already doing and couldn't be bothered to help out themselves or even support the Illinois guns rights groups like ISRA, Champaign County Rifle Association, Guns Save Lives,  or Illinois Carry.

[Waxahachie Kid #17017 L]

Right on. Our state has the Texas State Rifle Association. Your state may have a similar organization, that focuses on your state's existing laws, and the proposed legislation, that is coming up. We have folks in Austin, on the front lines, to not only be aware of things coming up, but to talk. and lobby the Congressmen, and Senators, down there, and tell them the truth, and to tell them what the majority of the people expect, and want. 

The N.R.A., or any other organization, is run by imperfect humans, will not be free from mistakes, and errors, and even some corruption...BUT...the organization's stand for our rights, and our freedoms. they speak against losing our rights, and they go to court as well. Are you rich enough, by yourself, to do what they can do? As the old saying goes, we hang together, or we hang separately. Join an organization, and it will not be just one, but many. Together, we can!!! So, come on in with the rest of us, that imperfect, and let's stand together, and try to make things better, and more honest, and as Churchill stated, and I am paraphrasing, but you will get the gist...never, never, never, never give in or give up.

Even the Bible says a chord of several strands is stronger than a cord of one strand. 

You don't like the N.R.A., or your state organization??? We have an enemy out there that is determined to disarm us, to open our borders willy-nilly, to bring us under foreign laws, and to create a national I.D. card, so perhaps we should just get over our dislikes, get over ourselves, and join together, to fight this insanity. No more excuses. 

There was an early American Revolutionary drawing,  which depicted a snake that was not whole....the caption read: "Join or Die". 

You know....it's like a preacher told me one time, and this applies to the N.R.A., or any other organization out there...he told me if I found the perfect church, don't join it...leave it perfect.  

Perfection is in the next existence...by now all of us should know, perfection ain't in this existence. 

W.K.

 

 

 

[Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474]

With the Leftists and the Globalists, there is no reasoning, facts or compromises that can be made.

They are liars.

Given the Canadian experience, any inch given is taken as an agreement to go beyond what was originally agreed to and encourages more demands for further surrenders.

Canadian law mandated the registration of all handguns in 1934 with the promise it would end gun violence and stop violent crime.

(Try not to laugh - It's rather sad actually)

Guess What?

IT AIN'T WORKING!

It seems only the law abiding obey the law.

WHODA THUNK IT?!?!?!

I guess we need more laws.

Yeah!

That'll fix it!