Possum Skinner, SASS#60697 219 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 So I can kind of understand the primer shortage, but who the heck is buying up all of the percussion caps? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goody, SASS #26190 1,170 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 What I read is the same companies that make the caps are devoting all their production to producing primers. That, and the fact that Remington was in flux for a while and all ammo and related had shut down. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Possum Skinner, SASS#60697 219 Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 Makes sense, Goody Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Preacherman 77 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Wholesale hunter has CCI Magum Percussion Caps #11 Box of 1000 for $50.79. I got some and not sure how great they are yet, but fit like Rem #10 and add 100+ feet/sec so you could use less powder. Hope this helps. https://www.wholesalehunter.com/Product/Details/11144590 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Bill Burt 3,194 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 43 minutes ago, Preacherman said: Wholesale hunter has CCI Magum Percussion Caps #11 Box of 1000 for $50.79. I got some and not sure how great they are yet, but fit like Rem #10 and add 100+ feet/sec so you could use less powder. Hope this helps. https://www.wholesalehunter.com/Product/Details/11144590 Thanks, just bought 1,000. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irish ike, SASS #43615 1,168 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Supply and demand. Out of the total market percussion caps is nothing. Any good manger would focus on the products that have the highest demand and most potential for profit. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Rick 608 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Preacherman said: Wholesale hunter has CCI Magum Percussion Caps #11 Box of 1000 for $50.79. I got some and not sure how great they are yet, but fit like Rem #10 and add 100+ feet/sec so you could use less powder. Hope this helps. https://www.wholesalehunter.com/Product/Details/11144590 What nipples are you using that they fit like a Rem #10? Â I'd like to pick some up but don't want to waste money if they won't work well on ROAs with Slix nipples... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sacramento Johnson #6873 50 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 What was the total price plus shipping, Preacherman? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kid Rich 828 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 25 minutes ago, Chief Rick said: What nipples are you using that they fit like a Rem #10? Â I'd like to pick some up but don't want to waste money if they won't work well on ROAs with Slix nipples... We use Rem 10 and CCI 11's, they are the same just a little hotter. When I had my ROAs I found CCI 11s to be better. kR 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Bill Burt 3,194 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Sacramento Johnson #6873 said: What was the total price plus shipping, Preacherman? For me it was $102 and some change for 1,000. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Badly 469 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, Chief Rick said: What nipples are you using that they fit like a Rem #10? Â I'd like to pick some up but don't want to waste money if they won't work well on ROAs with Slix nipples They work fine on my stock Pietta nipples 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Rick 608 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 It's quoting me $40 for shipping and almost $20 for HAZMAT fees. I'll have to pass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Preacherman 77 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Hi, I use Slix Shot Nipples. I checked with them and CCI #11 are supposed to work just fine. Yes, shipping does kill ya if you buy small quantities, gotta buy more to spread it out. I bought 7 thousand at $55.44, now they're cheaper, go figure. Shipping was 25.15 with insurance and $17.95 hazmat. Hope this helps. Somebody's buying as there were 21 left earlier today and now down to 14. I ordered 12/11 and there were over 350 thousand then. Better hurry! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Sloe 389 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, Chief Rick said: It's quoting me $40 for shipping and almost $20 for HAZMAT fees. I'll have to pass. That's why the last time I ordered some I bought 3k. Shipping and hazardous are pretty much a flat fee (up to 50 lbs) so it makes it seem a little cheaper.  BS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Rick 608 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 All gone. On backorder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boulder Canyon Bob# 32052L 400 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 For the AZ pards, no affiliation, just thought I'd pass it on. https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/spo/d/payson-reloading-supplies/7262207422.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clueless Bob 101 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Hey Possum, Gander Outdoor near me has never had an issue with having any except last month. I'm hoping it had more to do with Christmas holidays/ hunting season than having any real issue with supply. I'll find out here in a couple weeks when I go down with Limey for her CT scan/Chemo treatment. They've had Remington #11 and Winchester Magnum. Send me a PM with a number I can text you at if they have any. Clueless 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billy the Avenger 113 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/22/2021 at 9:09 AM, Possum Skinner, SASS#60697 said: So I can kind of understand the primer shortage, but who the heck is buying up all of the percussion caps? When you find out!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cholla 1,370 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/8408/category_id/339/product_name/IA0104+RWS+German+%2311+Percussion+Caps++-+<Font++color%3Dred>++%2430+HAZMAT+FEE+APPLIES+-+LIMIT++2<Font> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Possum Skinner, SASS#60697 219 Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 6 hours ago, Clueless Bob said: Hey Possum, Gander Outdoor near me has never had an issue with having any except last month. I'm hoping it had more to do with Christmas holidays/ hunting season than having any real issue with supply. I'll find out here in a couple weeks when I go down with Limey for her CT scan/Chemo treatment. They've had Remington #11 and Winchester Magnum. Send me a PM with a number I can text you at if they have any. Clueless Bob, I have it taken care of, but thank you.  Possum Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hashknife Cowboy 480 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 A good friend of mine is the owner of a gun shop and shared this. There has been a resurgence of black powder pistols sales due to limited availability of traditional handguns. Everything associated with black has sold out in his store and he has to work hard at attaining product. Thus the reason for another shortage. The thought of improper use of black   is quite disturbing to me.  I don't know if this is a anomaly limited to Arizona but I was recently offered a very inflated amount of cash for an ROA to use as a home defense weapon. My ROA's are not for sale.......  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
July Smith 384 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 14 minutes ago, Hashknife Cowboy said: I don't know if this is a anomaly limited to Arizona but I was recently offered a very inflated amount of cash for an ROA to use as a home defense weapon. Unless you cannot legally own a real firearm or happen to live in a very restricted state, why would anybody opt to use a percussion gun for home defense?  Don't get me wrong I love percussion guns and almost always shoot Frontiersman at SASS matches, but that's just for fun not personal defense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Sloe 389 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 56 minutes ago, Hashknife Cowboy said:  I don't know if this is a anomaly limited to Arizona but I was recently offered a very inflated amount of cash for an ROA to use as a home defense weapon. My ROA's are not for sale.......  I don't know if the person wanted to use your ROA for personal use or was going to try to flip it on Gunbroker. Fixed sight ROAs are going for around $1200 - $1500 on Gunbroker. Crazy prices, but people are buying.  What a world, BS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warden Callaway 4,614 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 16 minutes ago, Barry Sloe said: I don't know if the person wanted to use your ROA for personal use or was going to try to flip it on Gunbroker. Fixed sight ROAs are going for around $1200 - $1500 on Gunbroker. Crazy prices, but people are buying.  What a world, BS  I bought this pair of Pietta 1860s at a gunshop.   They had this pair of Ruger Old Army. I went back the next week and got them.   They look unfired. But no boxs, papers or percussion cylinders.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Sloe 389 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Good score. Â BS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El CupAJoe 145 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 20 hours ago, July Smith said: Unless you cannot legally own a real firearm or happen to live in a very restricted state, why would anybody opt to use a percussion gun for home defense?  Don't get me wrong I love percussion guns and almost always shoot Frontiersman at SASS matches, but that's just for fun not personal defense. My carry revolver has to go back to the manufacturer for timing issues, Last time this happened it was out for 8 weeks and I carried a .22 SAA during that time. sold the .22 I don't feel like buying another gun just to hold me over temporarily until I can get my carry gun back. I plan to get my 1858 slicked up and shortened before I send my carry gun in. for as often as I have to shoot something, I'm guessing the '58 will be fine until my .357 is safely back in my pants... Rule #1, have a gun...  Edit: to answer your question, I'm buying all the percussion caps I can find right now, so far, I've got 300  Edited January 26 by El CupAJoe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pee Wee #15785 93 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Is this where I can become a millionary? Â $20 per cap! Â The price people are asking is stupid high. Â A local guy has a case of CCI's that his price is about $0.15 a cap. Â He has had them for a long time and thinks that they are GOLD. Â I was lucky as my brother found me 6 tins of CCI for $6.98/tin, with the 6 tins I had it should keep me shooting for a few matches if they open up around us. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hands 9 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 May want to take a look at LG Outdoors if you are a user of CCI # 11's. In stock at $4.79/1000. Not my first choice, but ordered some anyway. https://www.lg-outdoors.com/Search/14412 Â 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hands 9 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Per 100.....sorry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pee Wee #15785 93 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Went and looked but with shipping hazmat it $0.084/cap.  Way to high for me.  Last time I got 1000 Remington #11's my cost per cap was $0.041 with shipping and hazmat.  I know prices on shipping is up but not that much   874992: CCI Primers 0311 Percussion Caps #11 Per 1000 $47.87 $47.87 X SUBTOTAL $47.87 ESTIMATED SHIPPING $33.30 HAZMAT FEES $17.95 ORDER TOTAL $84.52  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Sloe 389 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Pee Wee #15785 said: Went and looked but with shipping hazmat it $0.084/cap.  Way to high for me.  Last time I got 1000 Remington #11's my cost per cap was $0.041 with shipping and hazmat.  I know prices on shipping is up but not that much   874992: CCI Primers 0311 Percussion Caps #11 Per 1000  $47.87 $47.87 X SUBTOTAL $47.87 ESTIMATED SHIPPING $33.30 HAZMAT FEES $17.95 ORDER TOTAL $84.52  Either buy a chunk for yourself or go in with someone and buy at least 3k. The hazmat and shipping costs are pretty flat rate, so you're spreading those fees over multiple orders. It helps a little.  BS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hands 9 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Previous post noted a purchase from brother at .0698 per cap. Then has a mid-air stall for the same cap at .0845 per cap for a difference of .0147 per cap when they are for the most part nonexistent on vendor's shelves or online retailers. Didn't know one and a half pennies figured in to the enjoyment of making a billow of smoke! As the saying goes, "YMMV." 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Sloe 389 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 There are times when it is better to pay a little more and have them in hand, than to cry about that extra cost and run out after a few months. I put a few of these CCIs on order. If everything blows over in a few months then I will look foolish. There are predictions that the shortage could run to the end of summer or later. If so, I will still be shooting.  Stay safe, BS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 1,719 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 And, you can always sell them. My bet is that you won't lose $$, but it would be a drag to lose shooting time over a few dollars. --Dawg 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colorado Coffinmaker 3,444 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Â PLUS ONE for Prairie Dawg You Betcha. Â Losing shooting time is . . . . UNACCEPTABLE!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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