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[Dirty Dan Dawkins 895]

I have started to wonder if some sort  of “compromise” will try to be struck on “assault weapons” where , as in fully automatic weapons, the firearm may or may not be tax stamped but the manufacture will be ceased although you could buy pre 202x year “assault rifles.” The supply and demand affect of this would ultimately price these arms beyond a reasonable threshold.

 

And maybe this idea has been floated. 

Edited January 21 by Dirty Dan Dawkins

[Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 6,571]

Or, taking a page from the Canadian Prime Minister's play book, grab an incident before learning all the facts (Or before the facts come out!) and simply ban all types or variations and makes of a particular firearm, by Executive Action, with no debate or hearings.

[Chantry 1,212]

56 minutes ago, Dirty Dan Dawkins said:

I have started to wonder if some sort  of “compromise” will try to be struck on “assault weapons” where , as in fully automatic weapons, the firearm may or may not be tax stamped but the manufacture will be ceased although you could buy pre 202x year “assault rifles.” The supply and demand affect of this would ultimately price these arms beyond a reasonable threshold.

 

And maybe this idea has been floated. 

 

Gun control is not so much a Democrat vs Republican thing as it is a urban/suburb vs suburb/rural thing.  There are at least 2 or 3 fairly pro-gun Democrats and at least one Independent in the Senate who have opposed an "assault weapon" ban.  There are probably more members in the House who recognize that voting for gun control could cost them their seats in 2022 and pretty much nothing is more important to them then keeping their seat in Congress.

 

  And anything Congress does pass could be struck down by the Supreme Court.

 

 

 

[Rye Miles #13621 6,508]

59 minutes ago, Chantry said:

 

Gun control is not so much a Democrat vs Republican thing as it is a urban/suburb vs suburb/rural thing.  There are at least 2 or 3 fairly pro-gun Democrats and at least one Independent in the Senate who have opposed an "assault weapon" ban.  There are probably more members in the House who recognize that voting for gun control could cost them their seats in 2022 and pretty much nothing is more important to them then keeping their seat in Congress.

 

  And anything Congress does pass could be struck down by the Supreme Court.

 

 

 

I respectfully disagree, it's a DEMOCRAT thing 99.9% of the time!!

[Joe Cross, SASS #13848 L 67]

1 hour ago, Chantry said:

 

Gun control is not so much a Democrat vs Republican thing as it is a urban/suburb vs suburb/rural thing.  There are at least 2 or 3 fairly pro-gun Democrats and at least one Independent in the Senate who have opposed an "assault weapon" ban.  There are probably more members in the House who recognize that voting for gun control could cost them their seats in 2022 and pretty much nothing is more important to them then keeping their seat in Congress.

 

  And anything Congress does pass could be struck down by the Supreme Court.

 

 

 

 

and when they decide to add four more seats to SCOTUS?  

 

[Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 6,616]

2 hours ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said:

Or, taking a page from the Canadian Prime Minister's play book, grab an incident before learning all the facts (Or before the facts come out!) and simply ban all types or variations and makes of a particular firearm, by Executive Action, with no debate or hearings.

Wait! That wasn't first used in the US?

[Pat Riot, SASS #13748 22,367]

There was once an act in this country that created the birth of this country...

There may come at time when such acts must be thwarted in similar fashion.

https://www.mcall.com/opinion/readers-react/mc-american-revolution-gun-control-schuon-20150418-story.html

 

 

[sassnetguy50 311]

35 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

I respectfully disagree, it's a DEMOCRAT thing 99.9% of the time!!

I disagree, it's more like 99.5% of the time.  90% of those don't know what it means but they still want it.

[Rye Miles #13621 6,508]

24 minutes ago, sassnetguy50 said:

I disagree, it's more like 99.5% of the time.  90% of those don't know what it means but they still want it.

 

24 minutes ago, sassnetguy50 said:

I disagree, it's more like 99.5% of the time.  90% of those don't know what it means but they still want it.

I can’t think of one Republican that came up with a gun control bill!

[Sixgun Sheridan 4,253]

3 hours ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said:

Or, taking a page from the Canadian Prime Minister's play book, grab an incident before learning all the facts (Or before the facts come out!) and simply ban all types or variations and makes of a particular firearm, by Executive Action, with no debate or hearings.

 

I still don't know how he managed to do that and get away with it. Isn't there going to be a court or legislative challenge, or does Trudeau wear a crown now?

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Edited January 21 by Sixgun Sheridan

[Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 6,571]

2 hours ago, Sixgun Sheridan said:

 

I still don't know how he managed to do that and get away with it. Isn't there going to be a court or legislative challenge, or does Trudeau wear a crown now?

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It was done without Parliamentary debate, by an Order In Council, (OIC) drafted by the PM's office (PMO) and signed into law by the Governor General, Julie Payette.

It is being challenged in court, but with Canadian courts stacked with left leaning Judges, it may not get far. 

Meanwhile, the intent of the government is to use tax dollars to "Buy-Back" the newly prohibited, legally owned firearms.

In regards to the second part of you question, Trudeau took part in a self coronation. 

[Steel-eye Steve SASS #40674 52]

2 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

 

I can’t think of one Republican that came up with a gun control bill!

Not a bill, but George Bush Sr. was responsible for the 1989 Assault Weapons Import Ban. 

[Sixgun Sheridan 4,253]

15 minutes ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said:

It was done without Parliamentary debate, by an Order In Council, (OIC) drafted by the PM's office (PMO) and signed into law by the Governor General, Julie Payette.

It is being challenged in court, but with Canadian courts stacked with left leaning Judges, it may not get far. 

Meanwhile, the intent of the government is to use tax dollars to "Buy-Back" the newly prohibited, legally owned firearms.

In regards to the second part of you question, Trudeau took part in a self coronation. 

 

Well, things are sometimes little better here in the states. Emperor Andrew Cuomo of New York pushed his SAFE Act (which included an assault weapons ban) through the state legislature without allowing for the usual floor debate. They voted on it right away and it became law before anyone could even say "hey, wait a minute..."

[Rye Miles #13621 6,508]

14 minutes ago, Steel-eye Steve SASS #40674 said:

Not a bill, but George Bush Sr. was responsible for the 1989 Assault Weapons Import Ban. 

You're correct as POTUS he signed it into law but he didn't come up with it. He was forced to because he was a wimp! All the bills are written by Democrats as far as I know. That's why I said 99.9% 

[Buckshot Bob 1,273]

3 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

 

I can’t think of one Republican that came up with a gun control bill!

Toomey , I think he’s from PA . I’m sure there’s a few others . 

[Rye Miles #13621 6,508]

6 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said:

Toomey , I think he’s from PA . I’m sure there’s a few others . 

Did he actually come up with a gun control bill himself? 

[Subdeacon Joe 25,840]

Look up  "Cake and compromise. "

[Steel-eye Steve SASS #40674 52]

41 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

You're correct as POTUS he signed it into law but he didn't come up with it. He was forced to because he was a wimp! All the bills are written by Democrats as far as I know. That's why I said 99.9% 

Actually, it was an executive order.

Edited January 21 by Steel-eye Steve SASS #40674

[Buckshot Bob 1,273]

40 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Did he actually come up with a gun control bill himself? 

No he partnered with Manchin . They wanted bipartisan gun control. He was still a sponsor . Either way he’s not a friend of gun owners. 
We need a viable 3rd party that actually takes the constitution as more than a suggestion 

[Rye Miles #13621 6,508]

48 minutes ago, Steel-eye Steve SASS #40674 said:

Actually, it was an executive order.

It was a ban on imports not domestic.

[Rye Miles #13621 6,508]

20 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said:

No he partnered with Manchin . They wanted bipartisan gun control. He was still a sponsor . Either way he’s not a friend of gun owners. 
We need a viable 3rd party that actually takes the constitution as more than a suggestion 

That’s why I originally said 99.9% of gun control is democrat. 

Edited January 21 by Rye Miles #13621

[Rye Miles #13621 6,508]

Just now, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Sorry posted twice 

Edited January 21 by Rye Miles #13621

[Buckshot Bob 1,273]

53 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

That’s why I originally said 99.9% of gun control is democrat. 

Totally agree, but the there’s a few republicans that are just as bad . They just need to be primaried 

[Rye Miles #13621 6,508]

47 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said:

Totally agree, but the there’s a few republicans that are just as bad . They just need to be primaried 

Absolutely!!! Start with Romney!! He signed an assault weapons ban when he was governor in Massachusetts I believe!

Edited January 21 by Rye Miles #13621

[Subdeacon Joe 25,840]

As Iosef Vissarionovich wrote in his Order #227, 

Ни шагу назад!

We have given, and given, and given in "compromises" in which we got nothing in return.  It's time to stand firm and say, Not One Step Back!  

[Three Foot Johnson 2,505]

DC dictating gun control laws for some of the western & midwestern states is kind of like the DOT instituting traffic laws on the moon.

[J.D. Daily 325]

On 1/21/2021 at 2:02 PM, Rye Miles #13621 said:

It was a ban on imports not domestic.

That is why AK's, FAL's, H&K PT-91's are a lot more expensive than they were before the EO.  A minimum of 3 parts from a list have to be US mfg.  A lot of the "new" AK's are made from used parts kits.

[Yul Lose 6,419]

On 1/21/2021 at 7:18 AM, Chantry said:

 

Gun control is not so much a Democrat vs Republican thing as it is a urban/suburb vs suburb/rural thing.  There are at least 2 or 3 fairly pro-gun Democrats and at least one Independent in the Senate who have opposed an "assault weapon" ban.  There are probably more members in the House who recognize that voting for gun control could cost them their seats in 2022 and pretty much nothing is more important to them then keeping their seat in Congress.

 

  And anything Congress does pass could be struck down by the Supreme Court.

 

 

 

Not this Supreme Court. Robert’s is no conservative.