Dirty Dan Dawkins 895 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) I have started to wonder if some sort of “compromise” will try to be struck on “assault weapons” where , as in fully automatic weapons, the firearm may or may not be tax stamped but the manufacture will be ceased although you could buy pre 202x year “assault rifles.” The supply and demand affect of this would ultimately price these arms beyond a reasonable threshold. And maybe this idea has been floated. Edited January 21 by Dirty Dan Dawkins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 6,571 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Or, taking a page from the Canadian Prime Minister's play book, grab an incident before learning all the facts (Or before the facts come out!) and simply ban all types or variations and makes of a particular firearm, by Executive Action, with no debate or hearings. 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chantry 1,212 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 56 minutes ago, Dirty Dan Dawkins said: I have started to wonder if some sort of “compromise” will try to be struck on “assault weapons” where , as in fully automatic weapons, the firearm may or may not be tax stamped but the manufacture will be ceased although you could buy pre 202x year “assault rifles.” The supply and demand affect of this would ultimately price these arms beyond a reasonable threshold. And maybe this idea has been floated. Gun control is not so much a Democrat vs Republican thing as it is a urban/suburb vs suburb/rural thing. There are at least 2 or 3 fairly pro-gun Democrats and at least one Independent in the Senate who have opposed an "assault weapon" ban. There are probably more members in the House who recognize that voting for gun control could cost them their seats in 2022 and pretty much nothing is more important to them then keeping their seat in Congress. And anything Congress does pass could be struck down by the Supreme Court. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,508 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 59 minutes ago, Chantry said: Gun control is not so much a Democrat vs Republican thing as it is a urban/suburb vs suburb/rural thing. There are at least 2 or 3 fairly pro-gun Democrats and at least one Independent in the Senate who have opposed an "assault weapon" ban. There are probably more members in the House who recognize that voting for gun control could cost them their seats in 2022 and pretty much nothing is more important to them then keeping their seat in Congress. And anything Congress does pass could be struck down by the Supreme Court. I respectfully disagree, it's a DEMOCRAT thing 99.9% of the time!! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Cross, SASS #13848 L 67 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Chantry said: Gun control is not so much a Democrat vs Republican thing as it is a urban/suburb vs suburb/rural thing. There are at least 2 or 3 fairly pro-gun Democrats and at least one Independent in the Senate who have opposed an "assault weapon" ban. There are probably more members in the House who recognize that voting for gun control could cost them their seats in 2022 and pretty much nothing is more important to them then keeping their seat in Congress. And anything Congress does pass could be struck down by the Supreme Court. and when they decide to add four more seats to SCOTUS? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 6,616 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said: Or, taking a page from the Canadian Prime Minister's play book, grab an incident before learning all the facts (Or before the facts come out!) and simply ban all types or variations and makes of a particular firearm, by Executive Action, with no debate or hearings. Wait! That wasn't first used in the US? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pat Riot, SASS #13748 22,367 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 There was once an act in this country that created the birth of this country... There may come at time when such acts must be thwarted in similar fashion. https://www.mcall.com/opinion/readers-react/mc-american-revolution-gun-control-schuon-20150418-story.html 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sassnetguy50 311 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 35 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: I respectfully disagree, it's a DEMOCRAT thing 99.9% of the time!! I disagree, it's more like 99.5% of the time. 90% of those don't know what it means but they still want it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,508 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 24 minutes ago, sassnetguy50 said: I disagree, it's more like 99.5% of the time. 90% of those don't know what it means but they still want it. 24 minutes ago, sassnetguy50 said: I disagree, it's more like 99.5% of the time. 90% of those don't know what it means but they still want it. I can’t think of one Republican that came up with a gun control bill! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sixgun Sheridan 4,253 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 3 hours ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said: Or, taking a page from the Canadian Prime Minister's play book, grab an incident before learning all the facts (Or before the facts come out!) and simply ban all types or variations and makes of a particular firearm, by Executive Action, with no debate or hearings. I still don't know how he managed to do that and get away with it. Isn't there going to be a court or legislative challenge, or does Trudeau wear a crown now? . Edited January 21 by Sixgun Sheridan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 6,571 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Sixgun Sheridan said: I still don't know how he managed to do that and get away with it. Isn't there going to be a court or legislative challenge, or does Trudeau wear a crown now? . It was done without Parliamentary debate, by an Order In Council, (OIC) drafted by the PM's office (PMO) and signed into law by the Governor General, Julie Payette. It is being challenged in court, but with Canadian courts stacked with left leaning Judges, it may not get far. Meanwhile, the intent of the government is to use tax dollars to "Buy-Back" the newly prohibited, legally owned firearms. In regards to the second part of you question, Trudeau took part in a self coronation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steel-eye Steve SASS #40674 52 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: I can’t think of one Republican that came up with a gun control bill! Not a bill, but George Bush Sr. was responsible for the 1989 Assault Weapons Import Ban. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sixgun Sheridan 4,253 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 15 minutes ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said: It was done without Parliamentary debate, by an Order In Council, (OIC) drafted by the PM's office (PMO) and signed into law by the Governor General, Julie Payette. It is being challenged in court, but with Canadian courts stacked with left leaning Judges, it may not get far. Meanwhile, the intent of the government is to use tax dollars to "Buy-Back" the newly prohibited, legally owned firearms. In regards to the second part of you question, Trudeau took part in a self coronation. Well, things are sometimes little better here in the states. Emperor Andrew Cuomo of New York pushed his SAFE Act (which included an assault weapons ban) through the state legislature without allowing for the usual floor debate. They voted on it right away and it became law before anyone could even say "hey, wait a minute..." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,508 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 14 minutes ago, Steel-eye Steve SASS #40674 said: Not a bill, but George Bush Sr. was responsible for the 1989 Assault Weapons Import Ban. You're correct as POTUS he signed it into law but he didn't come up with it. He was forced to because he was a wimp! All the bills are written by Democrats as far as I know. That's why I said 99.9% Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buckshot Bob 1,273 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: I can’t think of one Republican that came up with a gun control bill! Toomey , I think he’s from PA . I’m sure there’s a few others . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,508 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 6 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said: Toomey , I think he’s from PA . I’m sure there’s a few others . Did he actually come up with a gun control bill himself? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Subdeacon Joe 25,840 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Look up "Cake and compromise. " 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steel-eye Steve SASS #40674 52 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: You're correct as POTUS he signed it into law but he didn't come up with it. He was forced to because he was a wimp! All the bills are written by Democrats as far as I know. That's why I said 99.9% Actually, it was an executive order. Edited January 21 by Steel-eye Steve SASS #40674 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buckshot Bob 1,273 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 40 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Did he actually come up with a gun control bill himself? No he partnered with Manchin . They wanted bipartisan gun control. He was still a sponsor . Either way he’s not a friend of gun owners. We need a viable 3rd party that actually takes the constitution as more than a suggestion 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,508 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 48 minutes ago, Steel-eye Steve SASS #40674 said: Actually, it was an executive order. It was a ban on imports not domestic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,508 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said: No he partnered with Manchin . They wanted bipartisan gun control. He was still a sponsor . Either way he’s not a friend of gun owners. We need a viable 3rd party that actually takes the constitution as more than a suggestion That’s why I originally said 99.9% of gun control is democrat. Edited January 21 by Rye Miles #13621 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,508 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) Just now, Rye Miles #13621 said: Sorry posted twice Edited January 21 by Rye Miles #13621 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buckshot Bob 1,273 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 53 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: That’s why I originally said 99.9% of gun control is democrat. Totally agree, but the there’s a few republicans that are just as bad . They just need to be primaried Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,508 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said: Totally agree, but the there’s a few republicans that are just as bad . They just need to be primaried Absolutely!!! Start with Romney!! He signed an assault weapons ban when he was governor in Massachusetts I believe! Edited January 21 by Rye Miles #13621 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Subdeacon Joe 25,840 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 As Iosef Vissarionovich wrote in his Order #227, Ни шагу назад! We have given, and given, and given in "compromises" in which we got nothing in return. It's time to stand firm and say, Not One Step Back! 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Three Foot Johnson 2,505 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 DC dictating gun control laws for some of the western & midwestern states is kind of like the DOT instituting traffic laws on the moon. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.D. Daily 325 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/21/2021 at 2:02 PM, Rye Miles #13621 said: It was a ban on imports not domestic. That is why AK's, FAL's, H&K PT-91's are a lot more expensive than they were before the EO. A minimum of 3 parts from a list have to be US mfg. A lot of the "new" AK's are made from used parts kits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yul Lose 6,419 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/21/2021 at 7:18 AM, Chantry said: Gun control is not so much a Democrat vs Republican thing as it is a urban/suburb vs suburb/rural thing. There are at least 2 or 3 fairly pro-gun Democrats and at least one Independent in the Senate who have opposed an "assault weapon" ban. There are probably more members in the House who recognize that voting for gun control could cost them their seats in 2022 and pretty much nothing is more important to them then keeping their seat in Congress. And anything Congress does pass could be struck down by the Supreme Court. Not this Supreme Court. Robert’s is no conservative. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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