Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Hi Folks: Going thru the primer stash, I found a brick of CCI 209M primers. I got them from an old friend years ago, and he has passed, so I thought I would verify my thoughts here. Planning on using them for my black powder shotshells. Mike Venturino always advised using magnum primers in BP rifle cartridges. I figure that in BP shotshells, (essentially low-pressure loads), they would be safe & OK to use. What does the expertise on the Wire say??? Thanks in advance. --Dawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancy Shot, SASS #67163 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 You are just trying to light a fire under the gunpowder. What could go wrong? Chancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 GTG or SASS OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 said: Mike Venturino always advised using magnum primers in BP rifle cartridges. The current trend around here for quality BP long range loads is match grade large pistol primers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I use Cheddite standard 209s in everything that I shoot except for those MagTec brass shells that require LPPs! Absolutely no issues!! Your CCIs should be just fine!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Sure Go for it >>> they work a charm .... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 9 hours ago, irish ike, SASS #43615 said: The current trend around here for quality BP long range loads is match grade large pistol primers. You need a paper 'wad' at the bottom of the primer pocket to raise the primer, because LPP are not as tall as LRP. There's also cases of damage to the bolt breechface from primer set back using LPP. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 Thanks for all your comments. I was pretty sure they would work just fine, but thought I would get some input just to verify. --Dawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Cornelius Gilliam, SASS#5875TG Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I've used CCI 209M to load BP shotgun shells. They worked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 9 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: You need a paper 'wad' at the bottom of the primer pocket to raise the primer, because LPP are not as tall as LRP. There's also cases of damage to the bolt breechface from primer set back using LPP. OLG Well, the 15 shooters here that shoot single shot big bore black powder all use Federal LPP match grade. Have been for the last 12 years or so. I guess were just wrong. But we'll keep on doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, irish ike, SASS #43615 said: Well, the 15 shooters here that shoot single shot big bore black powder all use Federal LPP match grade. Have been for the last 12 years or so. I guess were just wrong. But we'll keep on doing it. You using large pistol primers in shotshells?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Blackwater, I was responding to the comment about using magnum primers in BP cartridges. We use LPP match grade primers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Dawg, I use magnum primers in all cartridges. I use 209M primers when I can find them in bp shotshell. Cases and hulls are cleaner, no visible issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 Thanks Good to have my thoughts verified --Dawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I ran pressure tests on this load 4.3 cc of Goex 3f windjammer wad 1 3/16 oz 7 1/2 in AA cases and the difference in pressure was less than 200 PSI, between 209- and 209 Mag primers ... I really like CCI Benchrest LR primers in loading for my .40-65 Highwall, they give lower SD .... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Shooter Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Dawg - used 209M in 10ga brass shells with 100gr of 2f goex, no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portugeejn Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 When I was actively shooting BP and loading my own shotshells, I used 209 primers with BP and they worked fine. No issues at all. As I remember I used a couple different brands, Winchester and CCI. (Edit, I just reread the original post and saw that the question was about Magnum primers-I used standard primers.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I will mention that the pressures were more consistent with the 209 Mag. primers ... As were the velocities not that, this has any real meaning for our game . Happy New Year to any I might have missed .... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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