Raylan 8,631 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 2020 broke all records in gun sales. Hornady says they made 33% more ammo but haven't made a dent in demand. http://thegunfeed.com/final-numbers-for-2020-21-million-guns-sold-8-4-million-new-gun-owners/ Edited January 8 by Raylan 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Harley, #14153 3,255 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Happy to hear about the industry’s success. Bummed about what’s driving the demand. ( Fear) I make a motion that folks who’ve been gun owners for more than 40 years get a special dispensation to move to the head of the line to buy ammo for the guns we already have. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,935 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: Happy to hear about the industry’s success. Bummed about what’s driving the demand. ( Fear) I make a motion that folks who’ve been gun owners for more than 40 years get a special dispensation to move to the head of the line to buy ammo for the guns we already have. I second that!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DeaconKC 2,281 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: Happy to hear about the industry’s success. Bummed about what’s driving the demand. ( Fear) I make a motion that folks who’ve been gun owners for more than 40 years get a special dispensation to move to the head of the line to buy ammo for the guns we already have. Yeah, but as soon as we get there, we have to leave to go pee! 1 1 14 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Utah Bob #35998 16,501 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Those are just traceable sales. In many states, FTF sales are legal and not recorded. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 7,362 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 4 minutes ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: Happy to hear about the industry’s success. Bummed about what’s driving the demand. ( Fear) I make a motion that folks who’ve been gun owners for more than 40 years get a special dispensation to move to the head of the line to buy ammo for the guns we already have. I move to amend that motion such that there are places (stages) where one can cut in line. Go to the front of the line if you have 1000 or more guns but les than 50000 round of ammunition, provided that you may cut in front of any other similar owner of 1000 or more guns. There must be similar “cut in” points for owners of 750, 500, 250, 100, 50, 25, 10 or more guns with commensurate ammunition vaults. exception being if you are a hoarder who never goes to the range.))))) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buckshot Bob 2,012 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Those are just traceable sales. In many states, FTF sales are legal and not recorded. I know here in Mi for years as long as you had a CPL there was no NICS check required. Then after our state voted to legalize weed the feds made the dealers start doing them again. Also if you buy multiple guns there’s still just one background check Edited January 8 by Buckshot Bob 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pat Riot, SASS #13748 26,671 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 13 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: I move to amend that motion such that there are places (stages) where one can cut in line. Go to the front of the line if you have 1000 or more guns but les than 50000 round of ammunition, provided that you may cut in front of any other similar owner of 1000 or more guns. There must be similar “cut in” points for owners of 750, 500, 250, 100, 50, 25, 10 or more guns with commensurate ammunition vaults. exception being if you are a hoarder who never goes to the range.))))) 1000 guns? At first I thought that was a typo...then you typed it again. I do not know anyone that owns 1000 guns. That's a lot of guns. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bgavin 1,639 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Interesting numbers. NRA claims 40 million background checks in 2020, but only 21 million guns sold? Does this mean there is a 50% failure rate with background checks? Here in CA, a background check at my LGS is $40. I had three on my last background check, so I saved $80 by not paying $120. DROS at my LGS is $50 each. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buckshot Bob 2,012 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: 1000 guns? At first I thought that was a typo...then you typed it again. I do not know anyone that owns 1000 guns. That's a lot of guns. I knew one guy who may have got there . He had a safe built the size of a good size bedroom. He even got a old “poison door” from a bank that went out of business. He told me it was filled with some sort of powder that if you tried to torch the door it would give off a gas that would make you sick . He had allot of neat guns 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 7,362 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 16 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: 1000 guns? At first I thought that was a typo...then you typed it again. I do not know anyone that owns 1000 guns. That's a lot of guns. I knew an old guy, he’s passed on now, Marshal Sudden Justice, IIRC. I don’t know how many guns he had but his gun room had racks, his ceiling beams had revolvers and pistols hanging by the trigger guards, he had pocket pistols hanging by the trigger guards. Run of the mill pocket pistols in pails on the floor. Display racks everywhere. Not just cowboy guns, black guns, hunting weapons, commie revolutionary guns. i showed him a pp in mint condition that had sat in a lawyers desk for 70 years, he showed me one in the box. personally, I only got to a little over 300. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tennessee williams 2,421 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J-BAR #18287 6,391 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: I knew an old guy, he’s passed on now, Marshal Sudden Justice, IIRC. I don’t know how many guns he had but his gun room had racks, his ceiling beams had revolvers and pistols hanging by the trigger guards, he had pocket pistols hanging by the trigger guards. Run of the mill pocket pistols in pails on the floor. Display racks everywhere. Not just cowboy guns, black guns, hunting weapons, commie revolutionary guns. i showed him a pp in mint condition that had sat in a lawyers desk for 70 years, he showed me one in the box. personally, I only got to a little over 300. Saving this to show my wife. You guys make me look like a dabbler. 2 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 7,362 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, J-BAR #18287 said: Saving this to show my wife. You guys make me look like a dabbler. Good luck. Those 300+ were in five Safes, well, the ones that would fit. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 3,586 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 What happened to me? All of my guns are virtual. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raylan 8,631 Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 3 hours ago, bgavin said: Interesting numbers. NRA claims 40 million background checks in 2020, but only 21 million guns sold? Does this mean there is a 50% failure rate with background checks? Lots of background checks done for other reasons like concealed carry license approval and more. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sixgun Sheridan 4,465 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I bought a gun last month and had to wait over two weeks for a background check. Here we are a week after finally being cleared and picking it up, I buy another one and have to go through the waiting period and background check all over again. You know, just in case I did something naughty in the past six days. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bgavin 1,639 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 If this is the case, then those new gun owners will only be buying 2 billion rounds, instead of 4 billion. 2 million 9mm cartridges will only circle the Earth 1 1/2 times instead of 3+. Darn.. where is the fun in that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sassnetguy50 358 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 hours ago, Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 said: What happened to me? All of my guns are virtual. Like bitcoin? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sassnetguy50 358 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, Raylan said: Lots of background checks done for other reasons like concealed carry license approval and more. Or he intends to buy it but the wife denies the charge on the card at the register. Edited January 8 by sassnetguy50 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Springfield Slim SASS #24733 702 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 If you have had guns for over 40 years than you should have stocked up on your ammo/reloading components years ago. Shame on you for not doing it! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evil dogooder 1,005 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I had about 80, then My mother spent the summer in the icu. Now i have the essentials. Sometimes it's a kick in the nuts to walk past empty cabinets and safes. Moms home so it's worth it. Ammo I have some.... and components to load more. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buckshot Bob 2,012 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: Good luck. Those 300+ were in five Safes, well, the ones that would fit. I’ve only got 2 safes , I feel like a rookie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 3,586 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, sassnetguy50 said: Like bitcoin? I don't know what bit coin is. Sounds like something in the "cloud". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pat Riot, SASS #13748 26,671 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sixgun Sheridan said: I bought a gun last month and had to wait over two weeks for a background check. Here we are a week after finally being cleared and picking it up, I buy another one and have to go through the waiting period and background check all over again. You know, just in case I did something naughty in the past six days. I have dreamed of a day when I am selling a car or something here in Kaleepornia and the person that buys it is a politician and I get to say... ”Okay, thank you sir (or ma’am), you can pick it up in 10 days. Cars are unsafe. They kill more people than anything else in the country. I just want to be sure this is a safe transaction.” I have made bureaucrats at work wait 10 days on things that they have needed from me. It’s fun! Edited January 8 by Pat Riot, SASS #13748 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Muley Gil SASS # 57795 117 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I've never owned any guns. I jest like to dress up and play cowboy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,935 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 7 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Those are just traceable sales. In many states, FTF sales are legal and not recorded. Yes Ohio is one of them. I’ve bought and sold quite a few guns over the years FTF. Also in Ohio If you have a CCL you dont need to go through a background check unless the gun shop want to. It’s up to them. Edited January 8 by Rye Miles #13621 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tennessee Trapper Tom 519 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 7 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: 1000 guns? At first I thought that was a typo...then you typed it again. I do not know anyone that owns 1000 guns. That's a lot of guns. I’ve known several over the years. Military friends that came from three or more military generations family collections. Not unusual. I know one man whose collection exceeds 5000 guns easily and has the ammo to back it up. Both collectible and current. Guaranteed he doesn’t live in A liberal state 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackwater 53393 6,033 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I’ve known a few folks who are in that 1,000 gun range. I knew one fellow who had around 200 Winchester ‘97s and a few ‘ 93s as well! No telling how many Colts and S&Ws he had. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,935 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 8 hours ago, Raylan said: 2020 broke all records in gun sales. Hornady says they made 33% more ammo but haven't made a dent in demand. http://thegunfeed.com/final-numbers-for-2020-21-million-guns-sold-8-4-million-new-gun-owners/ NSSF estimates that 8.4 million were new gun owners. How in the world could they come up with estimate? There’s no question in the 4473 Form that asks if you’re a first time gun owner! Did they talk to gun shop owners? I know it’s just an estimate but I’d like to know how they came to that conclusion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sixgun Sheridan 4,465 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just like the estimates on how many guns are out there to begin with... it's just a wild-arsed guess. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bgavin 1,639 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Buckshot Bob said: I’ve only got 2 safes , I feel like a rookie I only have one... but it has overflowed into the closet... a lot... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Forty Rod SASS 3935 7,848 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 7 hours ago, Tennessee williams said: Had to read that twice. First time I thought it said Pooping intestines. Damn, that would smart. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Texas Joker 328 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 14 hours ago, Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 said: I don't know what bit coin is. Sounds like something in the "cloud". Its like them American Federal Reserve notes. Its a virtual currency with agreed upon value based on belief that it has value. Except they don't even bother to print paper its completely imaginary. Not backed by or created from any specie. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cusz M. Dutch SASS Life 55326 128 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 bought a new AR in a different and new caliber. Would only sell me 3 boxes of bullets to go with the gun. Utah also will accept a CCW for a background check. PS actually bought two AR but don't tell my wife. She may claim one of them... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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