21 million guns sold and 8.4 million new gun owners.

[Raylan 8,576]

2020 broke all records in gun sales. Hornady says they made 33% more ammo but haven't made a dent in demand. 

 

http://thegunfeed.com/final-numbers-for-2020-21-million-guns-sold-8-4-million-new-gun-owners/

Edited January 8 by Raylan

[Charlie Harley, #14153 3,216]

Happy to hear about the industry’s success. Bummed about what’s driving the demand.  ( Fear)

 

I make a motion that folks who’ve been gun owners for more than 40 years get a special dispensation to move to the head of the line to buy ammo for the guns we already have. 

[Rye Miles #13621 6,866]

Just now, Charlie Harley, #14153 said:

Happy to hear about the industry’s success. Bummed about what’s driving the demand.  ( Fear)

 

I make a motion that folks who’ve been gun owners for more than 40 years get a special dispensation to move to the head of the line to buy ammo for the guns we already have. 

I second that!!!

[DeaconKC 2,225]

1 minute ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said:

Happy to hear about the industry’s success. Bummed about what’s driving the demand.  ( Fear)

 

I make a motion that folks who’ve been gun owners for more than 40 years get a special dispensation to move to the head of the line to buy ammo for the guns we already have. 

Yeah, but as soon as we get there, we have to leave to go pee!

[Utah Bob #35998 16,337]

Those are just traceable sales. In many states, FTF sales are legal and not recorded.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 7,333]

4 minutes ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said:

Happy to hear about the industry’s success. Bummed about what’s driving the demand.  ( Fear)

 

I make a motion that folks who’ve been gun owners for more than 40 years get a special dispensation to move to the head of the line to buy ammo for the guns we already have. 

I move to amend that motion such that there are places (stages) where one can cut in line. Go to the front of the line if you have 1000 or more guns but les than 50000 round of ammunition, provided that you may cut in front of any other similar owner of 1000 or more guns. There must be similar “cut in” points for owners of 750, 500, 250, 100, 50, 25, 10 or more guns with commensurate ammunition vaults.

 

exception being if you are a hoarder who never goes to the range.)))))

[Buckshot Bob 1,823]

17 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said:

Those are just traceable sales. In many states, FTF sales are legal and not recorded.

I know here in Mi for years as long as you had a CPL there was no NICS check required. Then after our state voted to legalize weed the feds made the dealers start doing them again. 
Also if you buy multiple guns there’s still just one background check 

Edited January 8 by Buckshot Bob

[Pat Riot, SASS #13748 25,946]

13 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

I move to amend that motion such that there are places (stages) where one can cut in line. Go to the front of the line if you have 1000 or more guns but les than 50000 round of ammunition, provided that you may cut in front of any other similar owner of 1000 or more guns. There must be similar “cut in” points for owners of 750, 500, 250, 100, 50, 25, 10 or more guns with commensurate ammunition vaults.

 

exception being if you are a hoarder who never goes to the range.)))))

1000 guns? At first I thought that was a typo...then you typed it again. I do not know anyone that owns 1000 guns. That's a lot of guns. 

[bgavin 1,616]

Interesting numbers.
NRA claims 40 million background checks in 2020, but only 21 million guns sold?

Does this mean there is a 50% failure rate with background checks?

Here in CA, a background check at my LGS is $40.
I had three on my last background check, so I saved $80 by not paying $120.
DROS at my LGS is $50 each.

[Buckshot Bob 1,823]

3 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

1000 guns? At first I thought that was a typo...then you typed it again. I do not know anyone that owns 1000 guns. That's a lot of guns. 

I knew one guy who may have got there . He had a safe built the size of a good size bedroom. He even got a old “poison door” from a bank that went out of business. He told me it was filled with some sort of powder that if you tried to torch the door it would give off a gas that would make you sick . He had allot of neat guns 

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 7,333]

16 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

1000 guns? At first I thought that was a typo...then you typed it again. I do not know anyone that owns 1000 guns. That's a lot of guns. 

I knew an old guy, he’s passed on now, Marshal Sudden Justice, IIRC.

 

I don’t know how many guns he had but his gun room had racks, his ceiling beams had revolvers and pistols hanging by the trigger guards, he had pocket pistols hanging by the trigger guards. Run of the mill pocket pistols in pails on the floor. Display racks everywhere. Not just cowboy guns, black guns, hunting weapons, commie revolutionary guns.

 

i showed him a pp in mint condition that had sat in a lawyers desk for 70 years, he showed me one in the box.

 

personally, I only got to a little over 300.

[Tennessee williams 2,421]

[J-BAR #18287 6,316]

2 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

I knew an old guy, he’s passed on now, Marshal Sudden Justice, IIRC.

 

I don’t know how many guns he had but his gun room had racks, his ceiling beams had revolvers and pistols hanging by the trigger guards, he had pocket pistols hanging by the trigger guards. Run of the mill pocket pistols in pails on the floor. Display racks everywhere. Not just cowboy guns, black guns, hunting weapons, commie revolutionary guns.

 

i showed him a pp in mint condition that had sat in a lawyers desk for 70 years, he showed me one in the box.

 

personally, I only got to a little over 300.

Saving this to show my wife.  You guys make me look like a dabbler.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 7,333]

1 minute ago, J-BAR #18287 said:

Saving this to show my wife.  You guys make me look like a dabbler.

Good luck. Those 300+ were in five Safes, well,  the ones that would fit.

[Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 3,553]

What happened to me?  All of my guns are virtual. 

[Raylan 8,576]

3 hours ago, bgavin said:

Interesting numbers.
NRA claims 40 million background checks in 2020, but only 21 million guns sold?

Does this mean there is a 50% failure rate with background checks?

Lots of background checks done for other reasons like concealed carry license approval and more. 

[Sixgun Sheridan 4,447]

I bought a gun last month and had to wait over two weeks for a background check. Here we are a week after finally being cleared and picking it up, I buy another one and have to go through the waiting period and background check all over again. You know, just in case I did something naughty in the past six days.

[bgavin 1,616]

If this is the case, then those new gun owners will only be buying 2 billion rounds, instead of 4 billion.
2 million 9mm cartridges will only circle the Earth 1 1/2 times instead of 3+.

Darn.. where is the fun in that?

[sassnetguy50 357]

2 hours ago, Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 said:

What happened to me?  All of my guns are virtual. 

Like bitcoin?

[sassnetguy50 357]

1 hour ago, Raylan said:

Lots of background checks done for other reasons like concealed carry license approval and more. 

Or he intends to buy it but the wife denies the charge on the card at the register.

Edited January 8 by sassnetguy50

[Springfield Slim SASS #24733 680]

If you have had guns for over 40 years than you should have stocked up on  your ammo/reloading components  years ago. Shame on you for not doing it!

[evil dogooder 1,000]

I had about 80, then My mother spent the summer in the icu.  Now i have the essentials. Sometimes it's a kick in the nuts to walk past empty cabinets and safes.  Moms home so it's worth it. 

 

Ammo I have some.... and components to load more.  

[Buckshot Bob 1,823]

3 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

Good luck. Those 300+ were in five Safes, well,  the ones that would fit.

I’ve only got 2 safes , I feel like a rookie 

[Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 3,553]

1 hour ago, sassnetguy50 said:

Like bitcoin?

I don't know what bit coin is. Sounds like something in the "cloud".

[Pat Riot, SASS #13748 25,946]

2 hours ago, Sixgun Sheridan said:

I bought a gun last month and had to wait over two weeks for a background check. Here we are a week after finally being cleared and picking it up, I buy another one and have to go through the waiting period and background check all over again. You know, just in case I did something naughty in the past six days.

I have dreamed of a day when I am selling a car or something here in Kaleepornia and the person that buys it is a politician and I get to say...

”Okay, thank you sir (or ma’am), you can pick it up in 10 days. Cars are unsafe. They kill more people than anything else in the country. I just want to be sure this is a safe transaction.” 

 

I have made bureaucrats at work wait 10 days on things that they have needed from me. It’s fun!

Edited January 8 by Pat Riot, SASS #13748

[Muley Gil SASS # 57795 116]

I've never owned any guns. I jest like to dress up and play cowboy.

[Rye Miles #13621 6,866]

7 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said:

Those are just traceable sales. In many states, FTF sales are legal and not recorded.

Yes Ohio is one of them. I’ve bought and sold quite a few guns over the years FTF.  
 

Also in Ohio If you have a CCL you dont need to go through a background check unless the gun shop want to. It’s up to them. 
 

Edited January 8 by Rye Miles #13621

[Tennessee Trapper Tom 515]

7 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

1000 guns? At first I thought that was a typo...then you typed it again. I do not know anyone that owns 1000 guns. That's a lot of guns. 

I’ve known several over the years. Military friends that came from three or more military generations family collections. Not unusual. I know one man whose collection exceeds 5000 guns easily and has the ammo to back it up. Both collectible and current. Guaranteed he doesn’t live in A liberal state

[Blackwater 53393 6,006]

I’ve known a few folks who are in that 1,000 gun range.  I knew one fellow who had around 200 Winchester ‘97s and a few ‘ 93s as well! No telling how many Colts and S&Ws he had.

[Rye Miles #13621 6,866]

8 hours ago, Raylan said:

2020 broke all records in gun sales. Hornady says they made 33% more ammo but haven't made a dent in demand. 

 

http://thegunfeed.com/final-numbers-for-2020-21-million-guns-sold-8-4-million-new-gun-owners/

NSSF estimates that 8.4 million were new gun owners. How in the world could they come up with estimate? There’s no question in the 4473 Form that asks if you’re a first time gun owner! Did they talk to gun shop owners? I know it’s just an estimate but I’d like to know how they came to that conclusion.

[Sixgun Sheridan 4,447]

Just like the estimates on how many guns are out there to begin with... it's just a wild-arsed guess.

[bgavin 1,616]

1 hour ago, Buckshot Bob said:

I’ve only got 2 safes , I feel like a rookie 

I only have one... but it has overflowed into the closet... a lot...

[Forty Rod SASS 3935 7,759]

7 hours ago, Tennessee williams said:

Had to read that twice.  First time I thought it said Pooping intestines.  Damn, that would smart.

[Texas Joker 324]

14 hours ago, Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 said:

I don't know what bit coin is. Sounds like something in the "cloud".

Its like them American Federal Reserve notes. Its a virtual currency with agreed upon value based on belief that it has value. Except they don't even bother to print paper its completely imaginary. Not backed by or created from any specie.

[Cusz M. Dutch SASS Life 55326 128]

bought a new AR in a different and  new caliber.  Would only sell me 3 boxes of bullets to go with the gun.  Utah also will accept a CCW for a background check. 

 

PS actually bought two AR but don't tell my wife.  She may claim one of them...