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The virus has already mutated several times as most do. The newest mutation seems to be no more severe or life threatening but probable more transmissible.

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I understand Michael Crichton was a medical doctor when he wrote Andromeda Strain.

The news yesterday ran an article how the EU and Canada are now blocking air traffic from Britain, due to a new strain.
IMO, this will be ongoing for the foreseeable future.

Pandemics seem to run their course for X years, then disappear.
Ebola comes and goes on this mysterious time table.

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5 or 6 years ago my doc asked if I wanted the flu shot. I said no. She asked why. I said doesn't the virus mutate and the current vaccine may not be right. She said yes. Each year the CDC tries to anticipate the mutation of the virus, and there are several influenza virus's out there. So they create this years version. And say it may not be 100% effective. Otherwise why do we need a shot each year???????

While the vaccine currently being pushed "MAY"  work it's already ineffective against the new strain. Which will get here eventually. But by then we'll have our own mutated strain.

The CDC will be chasing it's tail!

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2 minutes ago, Sixgun Sheridan said:

 

Honestly, that was my thought when this whole COVID thing first became major news.

Or globalist attempt to assert societal controls to undermine whatever ism they find a threat.

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Whatever, it's life, been out working in this crap since it started. Work at hospitals, ICU's and ER's mostly. Local hospital every nurse but 2 in the ICU have had the virus. Probably 70 percent of the population or more has been working through this, medical care, mental health, truck drivers, manufacturing, food processing, energy production, waste disposal, etc......  Time to just start getting on with life folks, take personal precautions you feel prudent, but stop living in fear. This has happened before and it will happen again. 

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Another one of those "Oh Darn" events ...

The thing to watch for is when the CDC starts advertising for welders (to weld the windows and doors shut).

At least they are all sticking to the script ...

"The mutation is no worse than the original ... and ... the current vaccines will work ... but ... we will ban travel anyhow ... even though it isn't necessary because we just said so ..." 

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Yeah um...mkay. No. More hype to scare the muggles.

I read a piece on FOX News about UFC. Dana White had some really uncomplementary things to say about the media and people pushing the covid narrative. Of course the article "alluded" to issues but they provided no hard numbers or examples so that much is probably a little weak on being right. They have been holding fights since about May and I doubt they'll knuckle under. Like some people I know. They have gone way to far with this nonsense.

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8 hours ago, doc roy l. pain said:

Is it just me or has the flu become nonexistent these days

Not just you. 
Media must strike fear 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Joke 'um said:

U.S. deaths:

     WWII - 260,000

     COVID-19 - 327,000 (so far)

 

Just numbers, I suppose.  One of these days its going to get serious!

The percentage of the population was much bigger for WWII compared to today. Also the average ages for the deceased were much different. In no way would I compare covid to war. 

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this cant be a surprise to anyone , every year we get a flue epidemic , every year they try to anticipate and make the vaccine take care of most of it , but every year there are mutations that it wont stop , 

 

but then one could go down the rabbit hole and say this is how they will contrive the need to continue these obscene controls and have us go along with it - do you all want to be permanently confined to quarters ? fear is really powerful , they can confine and control us without the expense of building gulags , how great is that ??????????

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Viruses mutate.

 

Viruses that kill their hosts too much (or too fast) don't spread as easily as ones that do not cause significant symptoms.

 

Viruses that spread more easily infect more hosts.

 

Both of these trends tend to make viruses more virulent and less dangerous over time.

 

Distancing makes it harder for this virus to spread, and therefore makes it easier to select for a mutation which is more virulent.

 

So I'm not surprised this is happening. And not just for this virus, the same prediction makes sense for all circulating viruses... The mutations that can infect under social distancing will be the ones that do infect under social distancing.

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The "Flu" as we know it is nasty.  Some unfortunate folks die from the "Flu."  Happens every year and has for over 40 years.  The "Flu" is not new and therefore is not "News."  Even though the Flu kills.

 

The Corona Virus, on the other hand, is MANY times more lethal than just "The Flu."  Since it is "New" and really "Deadly" it is by default, more news worthy.  Trying to blame the hype and fear on the media, is a fools errand.  This epidemic is in FACT very serious and trying to downplay that, is just STUPID.

 

Trying to minimize the impact by quoting meaningless "Percentages,"  meaningless "averages ages" and other quasi metrics simply doesn't wash.  Take your quotations to the families of the Three Hundred and Twenty Plus (and climbing) and let us know how that works for ya.

 

And, if you happen to be on the "Wrong" end of the "most at risk" scales, the "FEAR" is very very real.  The number of people walking around without simple precautions is also very very threatening.

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This virus has not mutated to the extent it is not affected by the vaccine.

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Statistics are useful when one understands the context. 320,000 some thousand have so far died "with the virus" that is not the same as 320,000 dying "from the virus." We won't actually know any real approximate number of deaths from the virus until we have year over year deaths to compare to past years deaths.

 

Certainly the virus has caused deaths, certainly it should be taken seriously, and certainly people should take reasonable precautions. 

 

However, recommended precautions have not and will not stop the spread of the virus, they may have in some instances slowed the spread for a time, they may have saved some lives, but the evidence of their overall efficacy is thin. That's not making an argument against taking reasonable precautions, that's just being realistic. 

 

And there is a real panic going on with many people and that panic and fear does not help at all. It only serves to alienate and push other individuals into opposing positions due to the too often fanatical and extreme attitude of those gripped and overwhelmed by fear. 

 

This is a virus, it has and will result in more people dying, people should take reasonable precautions to avoid spreading the virus. Masks may help but they won't stop the spread. Social distancing may help but people can't live and survive without some level of social interaction. 

 

Viruses have historically brought pandemics and caused many deaths. Most of us in our lifetimes have lived through many such events. This virus has resulted in more documentation and testing by far than any virus before, it is not the worst nor is it the least lethal of viral pandemics. 

 

Originally this virus was thought to be 10 times as lethal as the flu, then it was determined through early statistical results to be 2.5 times as lethal as the average flu. Now that lethality has again decreased by as much as 75 to 80 percent. That's the good news. The bad news is that the virus has had a much higher transmissibility rate than originally thought. That means that many more people have gotten it and all containment attempts have essentially failed. Again that doesn't mean as individuals one shouldn't take personal precautions.

 

If the statistics reported by CDC and others are generally accurate, that for every reported case there are ten undocumented cases, then currently that means that around 180,000,000 Americans have had or have the virus. That's roughly about 55 percent of the population. We will find out shortly if that is accurate. If it is, the number of cases and deaths will start dropping significantly as herd immunity will be reached rather quickly. 

 

As another poster described, all viruses mutate, this current virus had already had mutations. Viruses tend to mutate to less lethal and more transmissible strains as such viruses are thus more favoured to survive and thrive. In most cases mutations do not as a rule make vaccines ineffective, they may but it is not commonly so. 

 

Between vaccines and herd immunity this virus should be largely over by the first quarter of 2021. 

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Crystal Balls for predicting the future fell out of favor along with Rasputin and Merlin.  There are Thousands and Thousands using that same Crystal Ball whom don't have any more clue than you do.

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