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21 minutes ago, OK Dirty Dan said:

Since we're all here...any suggestions on shotshell recipes for 16ga in 1897s?

15 grains 700x Winchester or Remington wads and about 1oz shot. I cut my hulls (Federal or Herters) 3/16”” for easier feeding and ejection.

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Abilene exaggerates a mite, I'm sure I don't own over 20% of all the '97 16's out there.  I would tell you how many I do own, but my wife might read this thread so...  Anyhow, I sure do love 'em, but you better be ready to load all of your ammo for them. 

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I picked up one a few years back. It's in nice shape but I discovered it only has 2 9/16 chambers. I shied away from lengthening the chambers, and did buy a box of period ammunition so I could test fire it. I also discovered a few nice loads, but roll crimping was a pain. I bought a Russian roll crimper, and had issues with the brass rotating and not holding the hull, so I just abandoned the project, the shotgun is in the safe. Love the gauge, but it has it's challenges and nuances for sure. 

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Big Boston, ALL 97s have short chambers as they were maid from roll crimped cartridges.  No stock 97 measure for modern 2 3/4 shells but they generally allow enough room to safely shoot modern shells with just a slight increase in pressure and felt recoil.

 

I'm a little surprised to hear your was that short though.

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When I was a new shooter gathering gear I passed up a ‘97 in a local store because it was 16 gauge and at the time I was not set up to load shotshells.  Ended up buying a 12 gauge ‘97 as my cowboy shotgun.

 

Later on we started offering the occasional Wild Bunch match.  This was before the Wild Bunch rules were changed to allow the Model 12.  I felt I had made a good choice of shotgun since a ‘97 (original or replica) is the only shotgun legal for cowboy and Wild Bunch, if it is 12 gauge.

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I own a 16ga 97 - but as I dont load sg shells; I have never used it for cowboy (would need a new belt and all that just to play).

But as I currently pull 4 shells at a time for 12ga - one wonders if pulling 6 would be realistic using 16ga.

 

Naw, since I already have 12, 12ga 97's (If I just count functioning ones or 15 if I include parts guns as well) - the last thing I need to do is embark on acquiring a bunch of 16ga. guns as well.

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8 minutes ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said:

 

Naw, since I already have 12, 12ga 97's (If I just count functioning ones or 15 if I include parts guns as well) - the last thing I need to do is embark on acquiring a bunch of 16ga. guns as well.

 

Need?  When on Earth has NEED ever been a factor in this decision??? 

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