Waimea 808 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 In an effort to save precious primers our club has said that we can shoot .22 cal as our main match guns. It brings up an interesting issue, maybe two. SOMETIMES we have kd that are shot with pistol or rifle. I guess it's a miss if it doesn't go down. (Answering my own question.) SOMETIMES the KD is an actuator for a buffalo or bad guy that runs across the stage. Most times the instructions say to shoot actuator until it goes down. What if it never goes down? Your kind response is appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L 4,851 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 If using "Buckaroo" firearms, why not follow that category's rules"? Quote Knockdown targets are not required to fall for Buckaroo category shooters. A hit will be scored as long as the target is clearly hit. SHB p.5 8 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El CupAJoe 148 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Waimea said: In an effort to save precious primers our club has said that we can shoot .22 cal as our main match guns. It brings up an interesting issue, maybe two. SOMETIMES we have kd that are shot with pistol or rifle. I guess it's a miss if it doesn't go down. (Answering my own question.) SOMETIMES the KD is an actuator for a buffalo or bad guy that runs across the stage. Most times the instructions say to shoot actuator until it goes down. What if it never goes down? Your kind response is appreciated. pop it with your 45 colt derringer bond arms assures me everyone of you is carrying... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waimea 808 Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, El CupAJoe said: pop it with your 45 colt derringer bond arms assures me everyone of you is carrying... That'd be fun too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waimea 808 Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said: If using "Buckaroo" firearms, why not follow that category's rules"? SHB p.5 Yep. That crossed my mind. And is prolly the way to go. For an actuator we will probably just use a sg most of the time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Baltimore Ed 96 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 This kinda of brings up another question. Would you share your primers if your cas bud needed some? .22s are as valuable as primers. Give him a match worth, a pack, a brick? Charge him pre election [about 30.00/brick is what I paid last time I bought a brick] or current market value? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Bill Burt 3,196 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I may have to break down and get a pair of Ruger Wranglers to go with my Widder softstroke Henry. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Bill Burt 3,196 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, Baltimore Ed said: This kinda of brings up another question. Would you share your primers if your cas bud needed some? .22s are as valuable as primers. Give him a match worth, a pack, a brick? Charge him pre election [about 30.00/brick is what I paid last time I bought a brick] or current market value? Primers, maybe. .22 probably. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cholla 1,371 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Spotters will have to step up their game. It's hard enough to spot .36 revolver hits! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Dog Doug 1,956 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I shot a match with a 22 when I got my BT-22 It knocked down plate if I hit the top half it knocked down the release plate of our tetter totter not caring about brass was nice 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cypress Sun 2,815 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 If the club is going to have a .22 approved match, don't put out targets that .22's can't handle. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cypress Sun 2,815 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Another thing with the .22's. Anyone (except Buckaroo/ette) shooting .22's should not be scored in any normal category. The way the scoring is recorded these days, you'll need to use an "unused' category like buckaroo or some other category with no one in it. The TO should be extra careful to make sure that the timer records the shots or at least the last shot if pistols or rifle is/are last. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,503 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 The Match Director at Firelands said if the primer situation doesn’t get any better he would allow.22’s and we would score them separately. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M.T Chambers, SASS#76185 60 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 New category... "Squirrel Hunter" and "Lady Squirrel Hunter" 3 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
High Spade Mikey Wilson 305 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 The most important issue I find as TO is to make sure the timer can record the 22 shots, or at least the last shot. We try and have the shotgun or pistols as the last firearm used as the 22 rifle gives the most timer shot recording issue. Just need to make sure any knockdowns are set up so a light hit will make them fall. 22's really haven't given us any problems the last couple of years we have allowed them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chickamauga Slim 355 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Baltimore Ed said: This kinda of brings up another question. Would you share your primers if your cas bud needed some? .22s are as valuable as primers. Give him a match worth, a pack, a brick? Charge him pre election [about 30.00/brick is what I paid last time I bought a brick] or current market value? I don't intend to "share" primers, but I'd gladly give a pard' enough ammo to get him thru a monthly match if he/she needed it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chickamauga Slim 355 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Captain Bill Burt said: I may have to break down and get a pair of Ruger Wranglers to go with my Widder softstroke Henry. I'm set with both and my Wranglers have lighted springs. I'd almost welcome the chance to use them in a match! The loading gate is still a %$Tch to open on those Wranglers. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sedalia Dave 12,707 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 The Rimfire Challenge shooters i know started putting Muzzle brakes on their .22 rifles. They direct enough sound back that the timers no longer have a problem picking up shots. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 1,104 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I'd enjoy shooting a .22 match just for the fun of it. Gotta pair of Colt's and and Lightning in the caliber. Wish I'd bought that FourTen SxS I saw a few years ago, but I didn't... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waimea 808 Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 9 hours ago, Dirty Dog Doug said: I shot a match with a 22 when I got my BT-22 It knocked down plate if I hit the top half it knocked down the release plate of our tetter totter not caring about brass was nice See, now THIS picture was worth the whole thread. I gotta have one of these. We will most definitely have a separate category. Might not even score in the overall match. Kinda like the .22s are shooting a match of their own. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michigan Slim 5,887 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 9 hours ago, Baltimore Ed said: This kinda of brings up another question. Would you share your primers if your cas bud needed some? .22s are as valuable as primers. Give him a match worth, a pack, a brick? Charge him pre election [about 30.00/brick is what I paid last time I bought a brick] or current market value? Yes, I am. Within reason but I'll not have a good pard run out. I also have enough .22 rounds to last my grandson's lifetime. We ran out during the great Obama panic when Kaya was a buckerette. Never again. And when the sanity comes back I'll stock back up on enough primers to blow up my neighbor's house when mine goes. 2 1 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doc X 388 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, Michigan Slim said: I'll stock back up on enough primers to blow up my neighbor's house when mine goes. I remember the local fire department once telling me there was no way they'd go in my house if it was burning due to all the "stuff" I had stockpiled. Funny thing, I was the Fire Chief at the time!!!!! 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black RZR 55 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 9 hours ago, M.T Chambers, SASS#76185 said: New category... "Squirrel Hunter" and "Lady Squirrel Hunter" LOL this is a must ! If our club comes down to allowing it I will definitely suggest this name. I will give you the credit of course. Gunfighter Squirrel hunter LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black RZR 55 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Chickamauga Slim said: I'm set with both and my Wranglers have lighted springs. I'd almost welcome the chance to use them in a match! The loading gate is still a %$Tch to open on those Wranglers. Yes I would love to shoot a match with my wranglers! They are great shooters and comfortable. I also lightened the hammers, that is a must. They are great for gunfighter actually. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Runamuck, SASS #49216L 54 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 The only thing I have against .22’s is with my hearing I have to pass on spotting duties as I just can’t reliably hear or even see 22 hits. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M.T Chambers, SASS#76185 60 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 13 hours ago, Black RZR said: LOL this is a must ! If our club comes down to allowing it I will definitely suggest this name. I will give you the credit of course. Gunfighter Squirrel hunter LOL Only problem is my single-sixes have adjustable sights Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cypress Sun 2,815 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, M.T Chambers, SASS#76185 said: Only problem is my single-sixes have adjustable sights What, are you worried about shooting out of category? 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pat Riot, SASS #13748 22,352 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I got a hard gray look from my wife when I joked about having to possibly buy two .22 SA revolvers and a .22 lever gun so I could shoot CAS. I decided to leave this subject alone for a while. 2 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waimea 808 Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 16 hours ago, Michigan Slim said: And when the sanity comes back I'll stock back up on enough primers to blow up my neighbor's house when mine goes. That's the Spirit, Slim! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waimea 808 Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Runamuck, SASS #49216L said: The only thing I have against .22’s is with my hearing I have to pass on spotting duties as I just can’t reliably hear or even see 22 hits. I'm gonna be so danged happy that I'm shooting and not using primers, the spotters can call me for 20 misses every stage AND I WON'T CARE! 2 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marshal Hangtree 2,127 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: I got a hard gray look from my wife when I joked about having to possibly buy two .22 SA revolvers and a .22 lever gun so I could shoot CAS. I decided to leave this subject alone for a while. You could always trade for your Detective Special. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M.T Chambers, SASS#76185 60 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Cypress Sun said: What, are you worried about shooting out of category? Yeah! Gunfighters have to use fixed sights Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Cornelius Gilliam, SASS#5875TG 40 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Our club has had buckaroos shooting 22s for years. I don't see a problem with it as a special category during the primer shortage. In my experience, the 22LR pistols are louder and easier to spot for than some of the really light 32 or 38 special pistol rounds. Having good, hard AR steel that rings helps. YMMV. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Dog Doug 1,956 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 we shoot 22 lever guns with CCI Quiet 22s no ear plugs required the bullet hitting the steel is louder than the round being fired .. out of pistol a little louder but still does not ring out ears . only 710 FPS so they barely knock down heavy targets Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J-BAR #18287 6,001 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I would enjoy shooting my .22s in a monthly match. I would only be interested in my raw time for each stage, don’t care about misses. It would be a great speed drill; see how fast I can make’em empty. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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