El CupAJoe Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 All, the 1860 Army I got used from a friend has nipples that are seized in place and a little squashed. I can keep it running by cutting one side of the cap to make it fit over the squashed nipples, but I'd like to get them out, dress them up and maybe replace them. any recommendations on a good heavy duty nipple wrench, and is it recommended to use WD40 or Evapo-rust or something? I've used evapo-rust on some lee reloading dies and it seemed to strip off the finish, and I'd rather not loose what's left of the finish on my cylinder. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bird Blue, SASS # 57924 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Amazon.com: Pistol Head Ratcheting Nipple Wrench -Shooting Supplies: Everything Else soak in Kroil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSnake Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 First thing you should do is soak the parts in Kroil for 2 days. That may loosen it up for you. I make a 1/4" drive socket with a groove milled thru the middle to allow using a ratchet or breaker bar directly above the nipple. They're stronger than the cheap handles but can still be broken if you don't soak it first. You can contact me for more info at : brucew@commspeed.net KingSnake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
July Smith Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 For penetrating oil I like Kroil. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Kano-HP-8-oz-AeroKroil-Penetrating-Oil/177636303?wmlspartner=wmtlabs&adid=22222222222040349301&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=s&wl2=c&wl3=10359455837&wl4=pla-4578916201657361&wl5=&wl6=&wl7=& wl10=Walmart&wl12=177636303_10001022865&wl14=kroil&veh=sem&msclkid=42b90e8f97891764c119514aba4d5bd3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 36 minutes ago, KingSnake said: First thing you should do is soak the parts in Kroil for 2 days. That may loosen it up for you. I make a 1/4" drive socket with a groove milled thru the middle to allow using a ratchet or breaker bar directly above the nipple. They're stronger than the cheap handles but can still be broken if you don't soak it first. You can contact me for more info at : brucew@commspeed.net KingSnake KingSnake, Yours is definitely the strongest nipple wrench, plus is could be used with a breaker bar! Do you also have a plate that the cylinder sits on, can be put in a vice, that has some protrusions that would prevent the cylinder from turning? It used to come as an option with the Ted Cash Ratcheting wrench, but seems to have disappeared. It was right handy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 For the kroil pour it into a clean pint paint can. You can buy them at almost any store that carries paint. With the lid on it prevents the volatile compounds from evaporating too quickly. If you don't have Kroil use a 50/50 mix of ATF and Acetone. Mix up enough in a pint paint can so that the cylinder is submerged, then put the lid on tight. Change it out with fresh mix every 12 hours for 2-3 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSnake Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, McCandless said: KingSnake, Yours is definitely the strongest nipple wrench, plus is could be used with a breaker bar! Do you also have a plate that the cylinder sits on, can be put in a vice, that has some protrusions that would prevent the cylinder from turning? It used to come as an option with the Ted Cash Ratcheting wrench, but seems to have disappeared. It was right handy! I do make vise blocks for holding various cap and ball revolver cylinders. ROA, 1851, & 1858/1860. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 From The Possible Shop in Roswell, NM: https://possibleshop.com/s-s-nipple-wrench.html#cbnipplewrench Nice vise block above, but I just put two stout dowels in a bench vise, and use that to hold the cylinder. You'll only have to do it once, because you will put anti-seize on the nipple threads when you screw them in. --Dawg RATCHETING NIPPLE WRENCH The Ratcheting Nipple Wrench is heavy duty and American Made, it makes nipple installation and removal easy. Made of 4140 heat treated steel. Great for your 1851 - 1860 - 1858 Cap & Ball Revolver. Slot Size .175". Fits AMPCO Nipples. By Cash. Description Order No. Price Order Now Ratcheting Nipple Wrench For Cap & Ball Revolvers 18-1124 $17.25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 And, throw the old nipples away, and replace with new Treso or Slix nipples. Slix works for Uberti & Pietta, but if your revolver is a different brand, you will have to use Treso (which are very good nipples). Use this document to order the correct product number for your gun. (TRM)nipples don't exist anymore. Tresos can be found on ebay --Dawg http://74.220.214.175/~dakotask/nick/nips.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Shooter Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 As others have said anti-seize will be your friend once you get them out. This may be overkill but after 4-5 matches I’ll remove them clean’em up and reinstall with anti-seize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I use choke tube grease on threads. Tighten the nipple snug. Then back off a 1/4 turn. I tighten up again before shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 PLUS ONE for Prairie Dawg (Both) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Track of the Wolf also sell a hardened nipple wrench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Just be careful what you Googe for using the word "nipple". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Warden Callaway said: Just be careful what you Googe for using the word "nipple". I Googled "hardened nipple wrench" and three coppers just arrived at my office to talk to my boss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Additional PLUS ONE for Prairie Dawg and Tequila Shooter. Cannot stress enough loudly enough how important an anti-sieze lube is for the nipples. As a RETIRED Gunplumber, I also heartily recommend a stand of some sort to hold the cylinder rigid. VERY RIGID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulshan 20262 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Major Crimes, it is supposed to be wrench, not wench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 One bottle is a Lifetime supply. Also highly recommended for MEC collet sizers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Shooter Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 8 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: One bottle is a Lifetime supply. Also highly recommended for MEC collet sizers. And you won’t get it everywhere or your hands look like the Tin Man when you’re done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El CupAJoe Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 3:30 PM, Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 said: And, throw the old nipples away, and replace with new Treso or Slix nipples. Slix works for Uberti & Pietta, but if your revolver is a different brand, you will have to use Treso (which are very good nipples). Use this document to order the correct product number for your gun. (TRM)nipples don't exist anymore. Tresos can be found on ebay --Dawg http://74.220.214.175/~dakotask/nick/nips.html Armi San Marco, I think the threads should be 12-28 per Track of the wolf, does that sound right to the rest of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Tequila Shooter said: And you won’t get it everywhere or your hands look like the Tin Man when you’re done. I don't know, you usually don't even have to open it to get it on you!! Kinda like Gasoila pipe dope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 19 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: One bottle is a Lifetime supply. Also highly recommended for MEC collet sizers. or this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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