Pineywoods Jim,SASS#56822 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 On this stage, shotgun was last and after firing shooter laid SG down safely and stepped over to pick up his rifle. A hull was partially out of the chamber of the double. Shooter was awarded a minor safety since his hand had left the SG. On the next stage the shotgun was first, rifle second. Shooter shot his SG string, laid the gun down with a hull partially removed and moved to his rifle, picking it up but not levering it and was allowed to go back to the SG and remove the hull. His hands had also left the gun after laying it down. No call. There was some discussion that the shooter had until the unloading table to remove the hull. Is the minor safety call correct? In both cases the SG had left the shooters hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boulder Canyon Bob# 32052L Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Penalty is earned after the next firearm is fired, or if it's the last firearm used after it's set down on unloading table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Shooter's Handbook, page 17 "Long guns will be emptied and discarded with their barrels pointed safely downrange. This condition may be corrected on the clock, prior to the next round being fired." Page 18: "If the long gun is the last firearm used, it must be cleared prior to it leaving the shooters hand(s) at the unloading area." Boulder Canyon Bob has it -- Just thought you might want page numbers from the Shooter's Handbook --Dawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hollifer A. Dollar Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 The shooter has until he/she reaches the unloading table to clear the hull. If the shotgun was laid down on a staging table, no call. If he/she lays it on the unloading table, MSV. That's how the RO card reads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boulder Canyon Bob# 32052L Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Hollifer A. Dollar said: The shooter has until he/she reaches the unloading table to clear the hull. If the shotgun was laid down on a staging table, no call. If he/she lays it on the unloading table, MSV. That's how the RO card reads. 5 hours ago, Hollifer A. Dollar said: Shooters Handbook. RO Pocket Guide SECTION 8 – RO POCKET CARD Pocket RO Card (Current as of January 2020) “MSV”= Minor Safety Violation “SDQ”= Stage Disqualification “MDQ” = Match Disqualification M S V S D Q M D Q Empty or live round in magazine or carrier of the long gun in which it was loaded after the next firearm is fired, or if last firearm, put down on the unloading table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 See Palewolf's "like" on the second post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Questions asked & answered. The SHB verbiage is clear on when a penalty is earned, as well as when/if it may be negated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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