Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Any recommendations on tumblers that use pins? Frankford, Harbor Freight RCBS? I need to casually suggest a Christmas present idea to my family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Spade Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I recently bought the frankford arsenal wet tumbler and couldn't be happier. Also purchase the media separator and the magnet. These will make your life much easier. I think Midway USA has the frankford on sale. My sister and I just ordered one for our dad for christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jack Spade said: I recently bought the frankford arsenal wet tumbler and couldn't be happier. Also purchase the media separator and the magnet. These will make your life much easier. I think Midway USA has the frankford on sale. My sister and I just ordered one for our dad for christmas. Me too. I bought the pins and magnet but never found them necessary. Simple Green and Lemi Shine do a greatbjob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Franklin Arsenal wet tumbler, a drop or two (NOT MORE) of Dawn and a 9mm case full of lemi shine. I have never found it necessary to use the pins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I like this one and don’t use the pins. Rebel 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Yul Lose said: I like this one and don’t use the pins. Rebel 17. X2! Cry one time and buy this one! I use ceramic in mine. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just now, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: X2! Cry one time and buy this one! I use ceramic in mine. OLG I have the ceramic but rarely use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just now, Yul Lose said: I have the ceramic but rarely use them. Found the ceramic did a better job cleaning my BPCR cases. They come out looking like polished gold, inside and out. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Regardless of which tumbler you choose I'll recommend not using the pins. They're a pain in the butt to separate after the cleaning is done. Mr Yul Lose up there turned me on to Strat O Sheen burnishing compound. A teaspoon of that plus combo car wash/wax gets my brass every bit as clean as with pins. You'll also hear lots of folks recommending Lemi Shine. That works great if you have hard water but is totally unnecessary if you have naturally soft or filtered water. Strat O Sheen P.S. I have the Frankfort Arsenal tumbler and love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoky Pistols Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 ^^^^^^^ What he said! Got rid of my pins and went to just Lemi-Shine and Brass Juice in my Frankford Arsenal tumbler and have never been happier with the results. https://www.thereloadingstation.com/products/brass-juice-case-wash You can search in this forum for a thread or two on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Duncan Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Shooting Bull said: ... I'll recommend not using the pins. They're a pain in the butt to separate after the cleaning is done. ... Hmmm. I dump my wet brass with SS pins into my former dry media/case separated with enough clean water to "rinse" the brass. Pins fall right out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 42 minutes ago, Matthew Duncan said: Hmmm. I dump my wet brass with SS pins into my former dry media/case separated with enough clean water to "rinse" the brass. Pins fall right out! If you don’t use pins you can skip this step. I have one too and haven’t used it in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Matthew Duncan said: Hmmm. I dump my wet brass with SS pins into my former dry media/case separated with enough clean water to "rinse" the brass. Pins fall right out! I used that exact separator with running water for over a year. No matter how long I tumbled I ALWAYS found pins still inside brass. Broke two decamping pins because of it. Strat O Sheen is a simple rinse and done. I’ll never go back to pins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Shooting Bull said: I used that exact separator with running water for over a year. No matter how long I tumbled I ALWAYS found pins still inside brass. Broke two decamping pins because of it. Strat O Sheen is a simple rinse and done. I’ll never go back to pins. I was given some brass cleaned with pins. I'm on my third recapping pin. Grateful for the brass though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp SASS#1628L Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Can the liquid method be used in a vibratory tumbler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, Wyatt Earp SASS#1628L said: Can the liquid method be used in a vibratory tumbler? No, not safe if the motor is underneath. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Shooting Bull said: I used that exact separator with running water for over a year. No matter how long I tumbled I ALWAYS found pins still inside brass. Broke two decamping pins because of it. Strat O Sheen is a simple rinse and done. I’ll never go back to pins. 1 hour ago, Michigan Slim said: I was given some brass cleaned with pins. I'm on my third recapping pin. Grateful for the brass though! Been using a wet tumbler with pins in straight wall cases for about 5 years and have yet to find a pin inside a case. I found that too much or too little water in the media separator can cause pins to stick inside. You need enough water so that the cases fully submerge as they tumble but not so much that they fail to rise up above the water level as the cage is turned before tumbling back down into the water. Another thing I learned is to not process too many cases at one time. I have a RCBS media separator and about 300 .38 specials is the most it will reliably separate at one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kloehr Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 31 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said: Been using a wet tumbler with pins in straight wall cases for about 5 years and have yet to find a pin inside a case. One thing I read is pin length can make a big difference in if they get stuck or not, which can mean changing pins based on caliber. Also heard dry tumbling increases lead dust exposure. So I'm leaning towards wet, and away from pins. I have been leaning towards a Frankford Arsenal tumbler, but will take a close look at the Rebel. I am getting the sense from this forum (for this topic), I would like to sit down with @The Original Lumpy Gritz and ply him with drinks of his choice and just listen to him explain every aspect of what he does, how he does it, and the tools he uses. Then just buy them and do it his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp SASS#1628L Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: No, not safe if the motor is underneath. OLG How so ? Lyman Turbo 600, the bowl is solid with a ventilated cover. I suppose some splashing could make its' way down the sides of the bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 hours ago, John Kloehr said: One thing I read is pin length can make a big difference in if they get stuck or not, which can mean changing pins based on caliber. Also heard dry tumbling increases lead dust exposure. So I'm leaning towards wet, and away from pins. I have been leaning towards a Frankford Arsenal tumbler, but will take a close look at the Rebel. I am getting the sense from this forum (for this topic), I would like to sit down with @The Original Lumpy Gritz and ply him with drinks of his choice and just listen to him explain every aspect of what he does, how he does it, and the tools he uses. Then just buy them and do it his way. Good whisky and he likes cigars too. Despite him being a pain in my a$$ he’s a pretty good dude. His wife is an absolute gem. No idea how he got so lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 22 minutes ago, Wyatt Earp SASS#1628L said: How so ? Lyman Turbo 600, the bowl is solid with a ventilated cover. I suppose some splashing could make its' way down the sides of the bowl? Then ask Lyman. Add it up, water-gravity-electricity...... OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Shooting Bull said: Good whisky and he likes cigars too. Despite him being a pain in my a$$ he’s a pretty good dude. His wife is an absolute gem. No idea how he got so lucky. She lost a bet OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 23 minutes ago, Wyatt Earp SASS#1628L said: How so ? Lyman Turbo 600, the bowl is solid with a ventilated cover. I suppose some splashing could make its' way down the sides of the bowl? There are vibratory tumblers that will work wet or dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 hours ago, John Kloehr said: 2 hours ago, John Kloehr said: I am getting the sense from this forum (for this topic), I would like to sit down with @The Original Lumpy Gritz and ply him with drinks of his choice and just listen to him explain every aspect of what he does, Would be a very boring 30 seconds of your time OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dirty Dan Dawkins said: There are vibratory tumblers that will work wet or dry. Please post a link to such. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I have an ultrasonic cleaner and tried cleaning brass. It didn't work well. I can't see a vibration cleaner working well with soap and water either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 https://www.mscdirect.com/browse/tn/Abrasives/Tumblers/Vibratory-Tumblers?navid=12100022 https://www.stuller.com/products/47-5054/11588430/?groupId=123056 This is basically Lyman stuff, read description: https://raytech-ind.com/metal-finishing/twin-tumbler.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Warden Callaway said: I have an ultrasonic cleaner and tried cleaning brass. It didn't work well. I can't see a vibration cleaner working well with soap and water either. I may try it out. I have a very large Thumblers vibratory that’s wet/dry. I just found this out....it was given to me years ago. There seems to be industrial and jewelry polishing applications for vibratory wet tumbling. I do know on my Thumblers the vibration intensity is adjustable, but I’ve always used dry media. I’ll get back on this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dirty Dan Dawkins said: https://www.mscdirect.com/browse/tn/Abrasives/Tumblers/Vibratory-Tumblers?navid=12100022 https://www.stuller.com/products/47-5054/11588430/?groupId=123056 This is basically Lyman stuff, read description: https://raytech-ind.com/metal-finishing/twin-tumbler.html With he prices of the first 2 links. They should run while under water That last one looks interesting OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: With he prices of the first 2 links. They should run while under water That last one looks interesting OLG I have a Lyman branded one just like it. My Thumblers looks just like link at Stullers. I do like going to the MSC sales counter and their catalogs. It’s a pretty neat place to find about anything for maintenance and machine shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 You could do a lot of brass with this https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/09117631 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I bought too soon. Not long after I did, Frankford Arsenal came out with a smaller model. As I don't like to mix my brass with Sawmill Mary's and I don't like to mix calibers, I always have a small load. The small model, two even better would be more convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 37 minutes ago, Dirty Dan Dawkins said: You could do a lot of brass with this https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/09117631 Or I could put a down payment on a house OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 11 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Or I could put a down payment on a house OLG Or retire in a third world country! Hey was that guy putting a cylinder head in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Warden Callaway said: I bought too soon. Not long after I did, Frankford Arsenal came out with a smaller model. As I don't like to mix my brass with Sawmill Mary's and I don't like to mix calibers, I always have a small load. The small model, two even better would be more convenient. I was wondering what size everyone used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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