Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Just made a discovery for me. According to the reloading page over @ the CMP forum, Winchester W296 and Hodgdon's H110 are the same powder, different package. There apparently are some cautions about using reduced loads in the W296, But Hodgdon doesn't say anything about it with their H110. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex M Rugers #6621 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Neither do well in reduced loads. Also , Win.231 and HP38 are the same product in different packages. There may be other examples of different names for same powders ,but these are the only ones I know for sure. Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I am told IMR 4227 and H4227 were the same, which is why H4227 went OOP in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 My loading manual says not to reduce below published loads with H110. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 HP-38 & WW231 are the same. X2 on staying at the top side on H110/W296 loads. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 H4895 is very amenable to reduced loads. It is impossible to find... but still amenable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, bgavin said: H4895 is very amenable to reduced loads. It is impossible to find... but still amenable. search for H4895 reduced load... I made some pipsqueek loads for my .270 because of shoulder problems and took 3 deer with them in 2018 and 2019. A nice option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 10 hours ago, bgavin said: H4895 is very amenable to reduced loads. It is impossible to find... but still amenable. It is. I use it for reduced loads for kids. Good for target and hunting with low cost cup and core bullets. But it’s not a pistol powder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 20 hours ago, Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 said: Just made a discovery for me. According to the reloading page over @ the CMP forum, Winchester W296 and Hodgdon's H110 are the same powder, different package. There apparently are some cautions about using reduced loads in the W296, But Hodgdon doesn't say anything about it with their H110. Call Hodgdon. Last I heard they recommend no loads less than 3% of starting loads for 232 or H110. A pistol silhouette shooter/gunsmith I know that shoots a lot of those powders always told never go below minimum loads due to possibility of powder detonation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 On another note I have heard people say the Alliant Unique and Hodgdon Universal powders are the very similar and can be loaded using the same data. NOT TRUE! They weigh differently and cannot be loaded the same grain for grain. Don’t buy into that gun counter myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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