Lone Rider SASS#32091 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I have always loaded and shot RNFP lead bullets in my 45 colt rifle and pistols, normally 250 grains. I have been thinking about experimenting with a lighter bullet and I see a lot of those are SWC’s. Does anyone shoot a 45 SWC? Will I see any major difference in loading for it or shooting it, other than the lighter weight and different POI? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Fine in the pistols. Iffy feeding in rifles, and most would say don't. Try a few first before ordering/loading a bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 SWC works fine in my Marlin, not so good in my '73 Winchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Most rifles including Marlin will have issues feeding SWC. Buy 50 bullets and try'em. What's ya got against RNFP. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Try Truncated Cone (TC) bullets. Love 'em. They have a longer nose section than RNFP, so when you need a long cartridge OAL, it's easier to get that with a TC. As folks have said, SWC will hang up when feeding on many lever guns - especially "uncontrolled feed" guns like the toggle actions. The ridge formed by the shoulder catches on the entry to the chamber. I have even designed a 175 grain TC bullet which fits .45 caliber firearms. It's found in the Accurate mold catalog as # 45-175B. Great for light large bore loads. SWC bullets have long had a reputation of being very accurate in revolvers (like Elmer Keith found). Especially heavy-for-caliber bullets. Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Like many I use the rnfp bullets for my cowboy guns. But with my 44 mag Marlin regular Keith style swc work smooth as silk and of course work in the revolvers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullett Sass 19707 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 200 grain swc bullets that I have tried are all to long for the 73 carriers. When they leave the magazine and enter into carrier the nose binds on the edge of the magazine tube. Bullett 19707 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bullett Sass 19707 said: 200 grain swc bullets that I have tried are all to long for the 73 carriers. Then don't crimp in the crimp groove! The loader DOES HAVE more options than just always using the crimp groove. Most SWC designs have a full diameter (driving) band in front of the crimp groove that will let you seat to a shorter OAL! Especially with soft alloy bullets that are appropriate for the low pressures and velocities used for SASS. Max OAL that most toggle link rifles like a '73 will feed is usually about 1.590" or so. Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunger Dan Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I used up 1,000 in my pistols-but didn't want to even try in my 73. So for a year I was loading one set for rifle and one set for pistol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Jones, SASS 2263 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Plenty of 200 grain RNFP bullets available, if you want lighter than 250 grains, and they work in all actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I cut down a Lyman 452488 mold a few months ago to cast a 180 grainer for my .45 acp Vaqueros. Works great, but POI is a couple inches low. Round nose bullets are available all the way down to 160 grains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 In the years I worked putting together Toggle Link and most "other" CAS rifles, SWC bullets turned otherwise great rifles into Jam-0-Matics. Not recommended in any caliber. Recently I have found a rather nice 180Gr RNFP from Badman, Scarlett, Missouri and someone else (feeble memory), that loads to the same over all length as a 200Gr RNFP yet has a great tapered shape and feeds in my 45 Rifles like Grain thru a Goose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 ".....SWC works fine in my Marlin, not so good in my '73 Winchester....." that was my experience as well , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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