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I started watching a series on WWII and the years leading up to it. The Nazis and Japanese, even the Italians, disarmed everyone they could and turned to domestic terrorism to enforce their rule.  Refugees by the tens and hundreds of thousands left their homelands for the supposed safety of other nations.  

 

If the United States gets taken over by the leftist extremists who want to disarms us and want to force us into their mold, where will we be able to go?  The only viable place I can think of is canada and I'm not really into cold weather.

 

Grim and pessimistic, I know, but I can see that happening in what lifetime I have left at my age if we don't take steps to stop it now.

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 Not going to happen.

 

While some Americans have already happily given up their rights and others will due to sheer ignorance and laziness, plenty of Americans will fight to maintain those rights.

 

There are plenty of Americans who know America as founded and as fought for and died for is worth still fighting for and leftist socialism is worth stopping at any price.

 

 If the leftists were to win the 2020 election they will not govern as they desire, disarming us and turning us into a 3rd world socialist nation that today's democrats seem to want. Plenty of real Americans left to fight for this country.

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I still hope if there was going to be a civil war in this country that the country be divided in half instead of war. Republicans West of the Mississippi and Democrats East.

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7 hours ago, Dantankerous said:

 Not going to happen.

 

While some Americans have already happily given up their rights and others will due to sheer ignorance and laziness, plenty of Americans will fight to maintain those rights.

 

There are plenty of Americans who know America as founded and as fought for and died for is worth still fighting for and leftist socialism is worth stopping at any price.

 

 If the leftists were to win the 2020 election they will not govern as they desire, disarming us and turning us into a 3rd world socialist nation that today's democrats seem to want. Plenty of real Americans left to fight for this country.

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I agree, the REAL Americans are not the ones getting all the attention. If it really comes down to it, we'll win!

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9 minutes ago, Smoken D said:

I still hope if there was going to be a civil war in this country that the country be divided in half instead of war. Republicans West of the Mississippi and Democrats East.

That's a terrible idea! There's plenty of conservatives east of the Mississippi and plenty of liberals west of the Mississippi!

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13 minutes ago, Smoken D said:

I still hope if there was going to be a civil war in this country that the country be divided in half instead of war. Republicans West of the Mississippi and Democrats East.

 

The SOUTHERN states east of the Mississippi will never go for that.   AND, the Southern states could very well be the place that

becomes a safe haven for gun owners, etc........

 

If gun grabbers are willing to die on the door steps of gun owners and the gun owners are willing to assist them as such, then

there won't be a lot of confiscations.

 

Civil War..... I doubt it.    BUT, there are individuals and organized groups from coast to coast who are prepared to protect their

freedoms and rights with force.

 

..........Widder

 

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My better half is very, very worried about what will happen if the anarchists win in November. We've been somewhat insulated from the insanity here near the state capital. Some protests and unrest but so far not the pillage and destruction of other liberal enclaves. 

I myself am concerned, but not sure exactly what my reaction will be if pushed  I would hope that I react with courage and honor. Never, ever did I believe that I would see the future of this nation teetering on the brink as it is now. Perhaps it was that complacency that allowed us to get here, I don't know

 

I hold tight to faith in God, and in the strength in numbers of those that are waiting quietly for the election to make their will heard.  I also believe the left will use every underhanded method possible to skew the outcome away from legitimacy.  America is at a tipping point.

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10 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

I started watching a series on WWII and the years leading up to it. The Nazis and Japanese, even the Italians, disarmed everyone they could and turned to domestic terrorism to enforce their rule.  Refugees by the tens and hundreds of thousands left their homelands for the supposed safety of other nations.  

 

If the United States gets taken over by the leftist extremists who want to disarms us and want to force us into their mold, where will we be able to go?  The only viable place I can think of is canada and I'm not really into cold weather.

 

Grim and pessimistic, I know, but I can see that happening in what lifetime I have left at my age if we don't take steps to stop it now.

 

 

Our country is even worse and further down the Commu Socialist/ ultra left leaning road.

Did you know that by decree AR-15s and all similar firearms are now prohibited up here?

That's in addition to .25 and .32 calibre firearms and those with a barrel length of less than 4 1/4"?

 

Get out the vote  election time and try to turn things around.

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I don't see our military, our national guard,  state or local law enforcement coming to take our guns.  They will bring in UN "Peace Keepers" from socialist country that already have their guns taken from them. 

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37 minutes ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said:

 

 

Our country is even worse and further down the Commu Socialist/ ultra left leaning road.

Did you know that by decree AR-15s and all similar firearms are now prohibited up here?

That's in addition to .25 and .32 calibre firearms and those with a barrel length of less than 4 1/4"?

 

Get out the vote  election time and try to turn things around.

Kid, I didn't know how far you have fallen up there.  I'm sorry.

 

There aren't going to be a lot of options left anywhere it seems.

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18 minutes ago, Warden Callaway said:

I don't see our military, our national guard,  state or local law enforcement coming to take our guns.  They will bring in UN "Peace Keepers" from socialist country that already have their guns taken from them. 

X2,  there may be a law passed but where will they find enough force to back it?  Many stores and supply chains will be halted.  New acquisitions would be difficult but there are a lot of lead bars out there and these cowboy guns have proven themselves many times.

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21 minutes ago, Warden Callaway said:

I don't see our military, our national guard,  state or local law enforcement coming to take our guns.  They will bring in UN "Peace Keepers" from socialist country that already have their guns taken from them. 

Unfortunately, there are a lot of younger kids taking over these organizations as the old guard retire or just quit out of frustration.  I can see all of our military and police agencies eventually becoming what we condemned in other countries not so very long ago.  Already the police in many areas have an "us against them" attitude toward the citizenry.  I have worked with some of them, some quite a few years ago, who referred to their neighbors and community citizens as "the perps next door", or "the suspects on the streets".  I don't see it changing soon.  This is NOT a condemnation of all, nor even most, of our LEOs and citizen soldiers, but the bad ones seem to be on the increase while the good ones are retiring or seeking a more rewarding career elsewhere...and I don't blame them a bit.

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Living in the PRK, I am face to face with this issue and making the hard decision.

When BLM shows up in my neighborhood, I have two choices:
Stand up or Stand Aside.

If I stand aside, BLM will destroy my cars and firebomb my house.
If I stand up, I will shoot as many of the bastards as I can get.
The state will destroy me in court, and send me to prison, so I figure Go Big or Go Home.
The ones I don't kill, will come back in the night at a later time.

The above is a true Lose/Lose situation all the way around.
I am facing that decision, soon.
There was a BLM rally scheduled 100 yards from my home, but it was cancelled due to extreme heat and smoke.
They will be back, and the chicken**** politicians will let them run rampant.

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44 minutes ago, Warden Callaway said:

I don't see our military, our national guard,  state or local law enforcement coming to take our guns.  They will bring in UN "Peace Keepers" from socialist country that already have their guns taken from them. 

 

Probably not far from the truth, using United Nations forces.

 

Interestingly enough,   I know at least one firearms instructor who has mentioned this before. Perhaps 10 years ago. When he paints metal silhouette targets he has been known to paint the head blue mimicking UN forces helmets. ;)

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3 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

That's a terrible idea! There's plenty of conservatives east of the Mississippi and plenty of liberals west of the Mississippi!

 

3 hours ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said:

 

The SOUTHERN states east of the Mississippi will never go for that.   AND, the Southern states could very well be the place that

becomes a safe haven for gun owners, etc........

 

If gun grabbers are willing to die on the door steps of gun owners and the gun owners are willing to assist them as such, then

there won't be a lot of confiscations.

 

Civil War..... I doubt it.    BUT, there are individuals and organized groups from coast to coast who are prepared to protect their

freedoms and rights with force.

 

..........Widder

 

 

You guys missed my word IF. Otherwise I agree, but please read the word IF.

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3 hours ago, Smoken D said:

I still hope if there was going to be a civil war in this country that the country be divided in half instead of war. Republicans West of the Mississippi and Democrats East.

Then we would be divided, and neither country would survive. 

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1 hour ago, Utah Bob #35998 said:

Then we would be divided, and neither country would survive. 

+1000%

 

CJ

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3 hours ago, Smoken D said:

 

 

You guys missed my word IF. Otherwise I agree, but please read the word IF.

 

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Your usage of the word 'IF' was in relation to the topic of Civil War.     My reply was based on your suggestion concerning the devisional

boundaries.   I didn't miss anything.

 

Again I say:   Civil War.....I doubt it.

 

..........Widder

 

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16 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

I started watching a series on WWII and the years leading up to it. The Nazis and Japanese, even the Italians, disarmed everyone they could and turned to domestic terrorism to enforce their rule.  Refugees by the tens and hundreds of thousands left their homelands for the supposed safety of other nations.  

 

If the United States gets taken over by the leftist extremists who want to disarms us and want to force us into their mold, where will we be able to go?  The only viable place I can think of is canada and I'm not really into cold weather.

 

Grim and pessimistic, I know, but I can see that happening in what lifetime I have left at my age if we don't take steps to stop it now.

In the US were the ones who don’t run . That’s how come everyone wants to come here . The press and the communists/socialist are a small loud minority. Don’t get me wrong I think they are dangerous but I don’t think the have the “advertised” numbers and they certainly don’t have the love for this country 

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Please do not get the " It will not happen here" mindset.  That is exactly the thought process that will put this country on the skids into the new great socialist country.  Look at the various protests around the country, the way the news media is extolling the virtues of anti American thought as a good thing. Look at the education system and what kids are being taught there.  Look at the current "pandemic" mind control being forced on America. Slogans like "The new normal, We are all in this together, etc" these are brainwashing techniques and are effective, Wearing masks isolates all of even further than the "Stay at Home"  requirements around the country.  Yes the CoVid is not a good thing, but it is being manipulated to further a takeover.  Letting yourself believe that the rest of America will not fall for the stupidity is a dangerous thing.  WHo would have thought any of the social changes we have now would have happened two years ago? 

 

40Rod to answer you..... Canada will not have us, Mexico will not have us.  I fear we will be accepted at FEMA re-education camps with open arms.

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"Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it."

This quote is attributed to George Santayana.

 

If this saying is true, then we all need to study our country's history, and also our Founding Father's, as well. We need to know why they set all this up like they did, and then we can remind our elected officials, and the liberal lying media, that we know the truth, and can't be B.S.'ed into believing the crud they spew.

 

Bulletin: This has to be done at home....it isn't being done at the secular public schools, or even at your church!!!  

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6 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said:

Then we would be divided, and neither country would survive. 

 

Since I use the word if, does that mean you would rather prefer civil war? Would it be better to have civil war or divide the country?

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Kinda looks like we are already divided.

 

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9 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

Kid, I didn't know how far you have fallen up there.  I'm sorry.

 

There aren't going to be a lot of options left anywhere it seems.

 

Even our not quite left wing media is complicit in advancing the left wing agenda. That , or the "Reporters" are just lazy.

Case in point: We recently held a protest rally on our Parliament Hill, protesting recent firearm bans without debate in Parliament by elected officials.

The Ottawa  Sun, a purported right of centre newspaper reported there were only 800 attendees at the rally. By actual count, utilizing a photo and counting heads, the number was closer to 5000. Quite a difference considering we are in a pandemic lock-down.

In another instance, we have video of an assault on one of our female protesters being assaulted by the opposition. Result? Crickets.

Pards, I fear the fix is in here in Canada.

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10 hours ago, Warden Callaway said:

I don't see our military, our national guard,  state or local law enforcement coming to take our guns.  They will bring in UN "Peace Keepers" from socialist country that already have their guns taken from them. 

 

I can see it in areas of the country.  They'll send in LEO's who happen to be POC, and they'll be told that they'll be doing the right thing by going to disarm white supremacists.

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13 hours ago, Smoken D said:

I still hope if there was going to be a civil war in this country that the country be divided in half instead of war. Republicans West of the Mississippi and Democrats East.

 

That is the way Canada is today.  There isn't a Liberal Member of Parliament from Winnipeg, MB west to Vancouver, BC.  Eastern Canada has all the socialists.

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5 hours ago, Muleshoe Bill SASS #67022 said:

 

40Rod to answer you..... Canada will not have us, Mexico will not have us.  I fear we will be accepted at FEMA re-education camps with open arms.


 

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21 hours ago, Warden Callaway said:

I don't see our military, our national guard,  state or local law enforcement coming to take our guns.  They will bring in UN "Peace Keepers" from socialist country that already have their guns taken from them. 

Take a look at this. https://www.un.org/disarmament/

They were also hiring But since the deadline has passed these no longer show on the UN job site

Job Title Level Job ID Job Network Job Family Department/Office Duty station Deadline
DISARMAMENT, DEMOBILIZATION AND REINTEGRATION OFFICER  P-4 127453 Political, Peace and Humanitarian Security Institutions Department of Peace Operations NEW YORK 08/02/2020
Coordination Officer [Temporary] P-4 129316 Economic, Social and Development Programme Management Department of Peace Operations NEW YORK 13/01/2020
Disarmament, Demobilization and Reintegration Officer [Temporary] P-3 128540 Political, Peace and Humanitarian Security Institutions Department of Peace Operations NEW YORK 12/01/2020

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It scares me to think of the level of conflict it will start here in the US.....

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There are plenty of pro-gun and pro-freedom Americans serving in our military and LE organizations. If this country devolves into a civil war a lot of them are going over to our side. As a matter of fact I suspect most of the military will. Not many anti-patriots serving, and those who are can barely even load and fire a weapon.

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On 9/26/2020 at 11:40 PM, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

I started watching a series on WWII and the years leading up to it. The Nazis and Japanese, even the Italians, disarmed everyone they could and turned to domestic terrorism to enforce their rule.  Refugees by the tens and hundreds of thousands left their homelands for the supposed safety of other nations.  

 

If the United States gets taken over by the leftist extremists who want to disarms us and want to force us into their mold, where will we be able to go?  The only viable place I can think of is canada and I'm not really into cold weather.

 

Grim and pessimistic, I know, but I can see that happening in what lifetime I have left at my age if we don't take steps to stop it now.

Chile.  Start brushing up on you Spanish.

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The Czechs and the Swiss are pretty freedom-loving and gun-friendly, but the EU is working to change that.

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On 9/27/2020 at 8:07 AM, Smoken D said:

I still hope if there was going to be a civil war in this country that the country be divided in half instead of war. Republicans West of the Mississippi and Democrats East.

Works for me. I live in Iowa.

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