dahoney 9 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Fifteen years in SASS but first time posting in the Saloon. How can one cheaply and legally ship loaded ammunition? Link to post Share on other sites
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 837 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Here is UPS instructions. You can find and print the ORM-D labels from your computer. It's not cheap! Link to post Share on other sites
dahoney 9 Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 Thanks I see ammunition sold on Gun Broker with shipping charges of $10-$40. How can they ship so cheaply? And legally??? Link to post Share on other sites
Pat Riot, SASS #13748 22,554 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 said: Here is UPS instructions. You can find and print the ORM-D labels from your computer. It's not cheap! What he said ^^^^ Link to post Share on other sites
Tex Jones, SASS 2263 800 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I shipped 350 rounds of 44s and 45s from MN to Maricopa last year using UPS. It was around $18-20. Not overly expensive, but that's the only way to do it unless you take some with you on a plane an even then you're limited as to the amount. The only issue I had was that the box must have been tossed around as two 100 round plastic boxes were cracked. The ammo was fine. Link to post Share on other sites
sassnetguy50 314 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 30 minutes ago, dahoney said: Thanks I see ammunition sold on Gun Broker with shipping charges of $10-$40. How can they ship so cheaply? And legally??? Commercial account with volume discount. Start a personal UPS account online and you’ll get some discount. Cheap is relative, most shipping is cheap compared to the current cost of ammunition. Link to post Share on other sites
Badlands Bob #61228 1,886 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 As I recall, UPS doesn't charge a premium just because it's ammunition. Federal law requires it to be marked with the ORM-D label. Loaded ammo doesn't require the Hazmat premium. Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Jack, SASS #20451 514 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 As I recall the ORM-D requirement was dropped 2 years ago for loaded ammunition. I have received 4 shipments from different vendors in the last 2 years and none of them were marked ORM-D. Link to post Share on other sites
Utah Bob #35998 15,861 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Happy Jack, SASS #20451 said: As I recall the ORM-D requirement was dropped 2 years ago for loaded ammunition. I have received 4 shipments from different vendors in the last 2 years and none of them were marked ORM-D. Yup. Link to post Share on other sites
South-Eye Ned 769 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I thought you were talking about shells for an MK-45 naval gun. Link to post Share on other sites
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 837 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 UPS thinks that the ORM-D label is required until the end of this calendar year. Rather than argue with a UPS clerk I'll just apply the label if shipping this year. Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 571 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I just write ORMD on the box with a sharpie. Link to post Share on other sites
Rex M Rugers #6621 338 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 What has changed for the last couple of years was the label. It is just a plain , white diamond. Doesn't have "ORMD" printed on it anymore. The ones in the picture four entries above. ^ Thanks , UB Rex Link to post Share on other sites
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 1,085 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 So if I put the new sticker on I can ship my son some ammunition UPS Ground? If so how much? Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Hanger #3720LR 688 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Shipping is not exspensive. Sort of. It doe s not have any special cost. It is shipped by weight and distance. Link to post Share on other sites
Tex Jones, SASS 2263 800 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 10 hours ago, John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 said: So if I put the new sticker on I can ship my son some ammunition UPS Ground? If so how much? I shipped 400 rounds of hand gun ammo last October to Maricopa, AZ via UPS from MN. Can't remember the cost exactly but I think it was a little more than $18.00. Like Cliffhanger said, weight and distance. All ammo goes ground. Link to post Share on other sites
Eyesa Horg 1,647 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Where do primers fall in the shipping scheme. May try to peddle some CCI on Gunbroker for the exorbitant prices being paid! Link to post Share on other sites
Hillbilly Drifter 970 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Primers are Hazmat and require a Hazmat license to ship. Not easy to do at all. I suspect some of the sellers on GB have found out the hard way or did it illegally. Link to post Share on other sites
Snakejaw_Joe 109 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 So ammo can be shipped under limited quantity haz? Is there a cutoff where it stops being limited quantity and starts being regular ole haz? ie anything over 500 rounds or something like that? As an example, where I work if we ship out a 1L bottle of dilute Sodium Hydroxide, its limited quantity. Just have to put the white diamond with two black tips on the box and nothing else. But if its a 4L or above of the same concentration, it has to go Haz - full corrosive sticker and registry with the DOT Link to post Share on other sites
Texas Joker 245 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 CFR49 173.63 says cartridges small arms are 1.4d explosives and become placadarable at 1001 pounds. 173.63 b 2 (iv) max gross weight of 30kg or 66lbs per package. As long as other provisions of b2 are followed they stay ORM-D Link to post Share on other sites
Eyesa Horg 1,647 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Hillbilly Drifter said: Primers are Hazmat and require a Hazmat license to ship. Not easy to do at all. I suspect some of the sellers on GB have found out the hard way or did it illegally. So I take it I can't just go to UPS and have a HazMat sticker applied for a nominal charge. Link to post Share on other sites
Hillbilly Drifter 970 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Correct Link to post Share on other sites
Hillbilly Drifter 970 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Snakejaw_Joe said: So ammo can be shipped under limited quantity haz? Is there a cutoff where it stops being limited quantity and starts being regular ole haz? ie anything over 500 rounds or something like that? As an example, where I work if we ship out a 1L bottle of dilute Sodium Hydroxide, its limited quantity. Just have to put the white diamond with two black tips on the box and nothing else. But if its a 4L or above of the same concentration, it has to go Haz - full corrosive sticker and registry with the DOT 66 lbs max ORMD Link to post Share on other sites
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