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Fifteen years in SASS but first time posting in the Saloon.   How can one cheaply and legally ship loaded ammunition?

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I see ammunition sold on Gun Broker with shipping charges of $10-$40.  How can they ship so cheaply?   And legally???

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9 minutes ago, Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 said:

Here is UPS instructions.  You can find and print the ORM-D labels from your computer.  It's not cheap!

What he said ^^^^

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I shipped 350 rounds of 44s and 45s from MN to Maricopa last year using UPS.  It was around $18-20.  Not overly expensive, but that's the only way to do it unless you take some with you on a plane an even then you're limited as to the amount.  The only issue I had was that the box must have been tossed around as two 100 round plastic boxes were cracked.  The ammo was fine.

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30 minutes ago, dahoney said:

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I see ammunition sold on Gun Broker with shipping charges of $10-$40.  How can they ship so cheaply?   And legally???

Commercial account with volume discount.  Start a personal UPS account online and you’ll get some discount.  Cheap is relative, most shipping is cheap compared to the current cost of ammunition.

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As I recall, UPS doesn't charge a premium just because it's ammunition.  Federal law requires it to be marked with the ORM-D label.  Loaded ammo doesn't require the Hazmat premium.

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As I recall the ORM-D requirement was dropped 2 years ago for loaded ammunition.  I have received 4 shipments from different vendors in the last 2 years and none of them were marked ORM-D.   

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7 minutes ago, Happy Jack, SASS #20451 said:

As I recall the ORM-D requirement was dropped 2 years ago for loaded ammunition.  I have received 4 shipments from different vendors in the last 2 years and none of them were marked ORM-D.   

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I thought you were talking about shells for an MK-45 naval gun.

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UPS thinks that the ORM-D label is required until the end of this calendar year.  Rather than argue with a UPS clerk I'll just apply the label if shipping this year.

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What has changed for the last couple of years was the label. It is just a plain , white diamond. Doesn't have "ORMD" printed on it anymore.

The ones in the picture four entries above. ^

Thanks , UB :lol:

Rex :D

Edited by Rex M Rugers #6621

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Shipping is not exspensive.

Sort of.

It doe s not have any special cost.

It is shipped by weight and distance.

Edited by Cliff Hanger #3720LR

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10 hours ago, John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 said:

So if I put the new sticker on I can ship my son some ammunition UPS Ground? If so how much? 

I shipped 400 rounds of hand gun ammo last October to Maricopa, AZ via UPS from MN.  Can't remember the cost exactly but I think it was a little more than $18.00.  Like Cliffhanger said, weight and distance.  All ammo goes ground.

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Where do primers fall in the shipping scheme. May try to peddle some CCI on Gunbroker for the exorbitant prices being paid!

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Primers are Hazmat and require a Hazmat license to ship. Not easy to do at all. I suspect some of the sellers on GB have found out the hard way or did it illegally.

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So ammo can be shipped under limited quantity haz? Is there a cutoff where it stops being limited quantity and starts being regular ole haz? ie anything over 500 rounds or something like that?

 

As an example, where I work if we ship out a 1L bottle of dilute Sodium Hydroxide, its limited quantity. Just have to put the white diamond with two black tips on the box and nothing else. But if its a 4L or above of the same concentration, it has to go Haz - full corrosive sticker and registry with the DOT

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CFR49 173.63 says cartridges small arms are 1.4d explosives and become placadarable at 1001 pounds. 

 

173.63 b 2 (iv) max gross weight of 30kg or 66lbs per package. As long as other provisions of b2 are followed they stay ORM-D

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1 hour ago, Hillbilly Drifter said:

Primers are Hazmat and require a Hazmat license to ship. Not easy to do at all. I suspect some of the sellers on GB have found out the hard way or did it illegally.

So I take it I can't just go to UPS and have a HazMat sticker applied for a nominal charge.

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Correct

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6 hours ago, Snakejaw_Joe said:

So ammo can be shipped under limited quantity haz? Is there a cutoff where it stops being limited quantity and starts being regular ole haz? ie anything over 500 rounds or something like that?

 

As an example, where I work if we ship out a 1L bottle of dilute Sodium Hydroxide, its limited quantity. Just have to put the white diamond with two black tips on the box and nothing else. But if its a 4L or above of the same concentration, it has to go Haz - full corrosive sticker and registry with the DOT

66 lbs max ORMD

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