Wyatt Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Force a round into a rifle chamber! What’s your Never, Ever, Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Hangtree Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Dang! I'm still hurting from watching that first one! I ain't watching the second one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Wow, did you ever figure out why the firing pin ran forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Any primer in any position will ignite if the firing pin strikes it Hard and Fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Sorry, not a safety issue but mine is: Never, ever, EVER go to the line without a plan firmly in your head. Plan the stage, commit to it and stick with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I do NOT have a repro toggle-link action rifle, so I don't know which has what, but the original M1873 Winchesters had a firing pin retractor that physically retracts the pin until the lever is fully closed. That should prevent slamfires before the round is fully seated. Hope neither shooter was injured. Stay safe and stay well, Pards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 34 minutes ago, Shooting Bull said: Sorry, not a safety issue but mine is: Never, ever, EVER go to the line without a plan firmly in your head. Plan the stage, commit to it and stick with it. I try so hard to do that... but all too often it leaks out my ears when the buzzer goes off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Wow! Glad no one was hurt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 A piece of the brass case did go through the cartliage of Cypress Sam‘s left ear and messed up a perfectly good hat. He also had a couple of abrasions on his face. He was very lucky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp SASS#1628L Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I've seen that video many times over the years and still can't figure out why he threw the rifle down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Angus McPherson Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 35 minutes ago, Wyatt Earp SASS#1628L said: I've seen that video many times over the years and still can't figure out why he threw the rifle down. I'd say that's a natural reaction whenever something in your hands unexpectedly blows up and/or attacks you. Angus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, Black Angus McPherson said: I'd say that's a natural reaction whenever something in your hands unexpectedly blows up and/or attacks you. Angus Thank God I've only experienced something like that a couple of times in my life and yep, that's exactly what I did both times. It sure isn't something I thought about. Reflex took over and I got the nasty stuff as far away from me as I could as fast as I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Ethan # 94321 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Any idea as to why the round wouldn't properly chamber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sam, SASS #10915 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 That was a video of me shooting a stage In a match in Ruskin, Florida about 15 or 20 years ago. Filming by Wyatt who must have been trying to spy on my “gunfighter pistols” technique! As to why “he threw the gun down”, in my mind at the time, I didn’t throw it down; I carefully placing it on the table swiftly. But the same forces took over that fired the round: Newtons Second Law of Motion. (A body in motion tends to stay in motion until acted upon by some outside force.) The lower video demonstrates how a primer can be fired using the inertia of the firing pin + extension when closing the bolt on a cartridge not fully chambered because of an obstruction of some sort. In the demonstration, the obstruction was simulated by installing a pin to prevent fully chambering the round. In the first video, the case had a severely bulged case. I’d also like to point out that this is the very same reason that you shouldn’t drop the slide on a 1911 pistol onto a chambered round. The inertia of the firing pin may fire the round. All rounds fired in a 1911 are fired by inertia since the firing pin is not long enough to protrude from the bolt face if the hammer is all the way down, resting on the firing pin. (Of course, you already knew that.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Slim SASS #24733 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Seems to me this is a good reason not to install a lighter firing pin spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Jake Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Cypress Sam, SASS #10915 said: ... the obstruction was (caused by) the case had a severely bulged case... That's why I always run my reloads through a case gauge...if they won't slide right in I run them through a Lee Factory Carbide Crimp die. I only have to do it once or twice per loading session, but it only has to happen once to ruin your day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Thankful for this video - Had seen it a while back and it taught me to be easy on the lever is something isn't right with the rifle. Got to employ this lesson at Range War this year. GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal TKD, Sass # 36984L Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Never ever, ever drink the 4th glass of Absinth. Time travel occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waimea Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Never, ever, ever forget to cheer for Cypress Sam when he takes his hat off. Very happy it was just a bit of ear. I was spotting for Cypress Sun (son of Sam) when Sun had an out of battery on his '97. That wrecked a perfectly good SG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German Jim Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 9 hours ago, Springfield Slim SASS #24733 said: Seems to me this is a good reason not to install a lighter firing pin spring. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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