Utah Bob #35998 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 My intent was merely to blast the increasingly goofy “news” media not to start a sociological discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 They are "avid campers" or "extreme outdoorsmen". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 We used to just call em bums! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Jaspers Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I live in the Denver area and work with the homeless. It’s a problem in every community. If people would have respect for one another and help maybe the “bums” and “extreme campers” would have a warm place to stay other than the curb. peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Pat Jaspers said: I live in the Denver area and work with the homeless. It’s a problem in every community. If people would have respect for one another and help maybe the “bums” and “extreme campers” would have a warm place to stay other than the curb. peace I work for the local community mental health clinic, I'm quite familiar with the homeless. Many of our homeless choose to live the "free" lifestyle because they don't want to comply with what we would call "simple rules". They don't want to be tied down or bothered by the work it takes to become a self sustaining person. Many don't want to comply by the rules at the shelter either. SPMI or severe permanent mentally ill clients are in our residential programs and do not live on the streets. Those that want to continue down the road of addiction have many options. Living on the street is an option, there are safety nets in place for those that have become temporarily down on their luck. They know how to travel and know where they can find the best community services. I've seen them riding the trains behind my house in route for a warmer locale in the fall. Many are playing the system. It's the easy way for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Officials are conducting a sweep of a camp of people experiencing homelessness in the area of 22nd and Stout in downtown Denver, Colorado. So they're no longer homeless people, they're people experiencing homelessness. And the picture caption called it s Swep instead of sweep. They really need to stop using college interns, Some paprs are using third grade interns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Wouldn't they be "Urban Campers?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Creek,5759 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 RIDING THE GRUB LINE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex M Rugers #6621 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: Some paprs are using third grade interns. Is it just me , or is bias and stupidity a prerequisite to be in the "News Media" business these days. It is getting tiresome hearing the one side's viewpoint continuously. Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 My Dad said that a journalist was someone who tried to present all sides of something and was to be respected. An editorialist looked at an issue, decided on a side of it, and stated this was their decision and the reasons why they supported it. They were also worthy of respect. However a propagandist is someone simply presenting an issue with no balance as the only facts they want you to have. I miss the show "Hannity and Colmes" what a great show... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 There are few “Journalists” these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 Real journalism is hard to find these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Assassin said: I work for the local community mental health clinic, I'm quite familiar with the homeless. Many of our homeless choose to live the "free" lifestyle because they don't want to comply with what we would call "simple rules". They don't want to be tied down or bothered by the work it takes to become a self sustaining person. Many don't want to comply by the rules at the shelter either. SPMI or severe permanent mentally ill clients are in our residential programs and do not live on the streets. Those that want to continue down the road of addiction have many options. Living on the street is an option, there are safety nets in place for those that have become temporarily down on their luck. They know how to travel and know where they can find the best community services. I've seen them riding the trains behind my house in route for a warmer locale in the fall. Many are playing the system. It's the easy way for some. In my experience working with the homeless, 70%+ are as Assasin described. Homeless by choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: In my experience working with the homeless, 70%+ are as Assasin described. Homeless by choice. But they all still want their "rightful benefits" with no strings attached. My son and daughter-in-law work with those people in Las Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 "Those that want to continue down the road of addiction have many options. " ...........yes and you forgot to mention changing their ways - many do it all the time , they put their lives back together promising themselves to keep with that program , i know we have members of society that should be institutionalized for their well being but someone decided that was wrong back when , we now deal with it in a different way , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, watab kid said: "Those that want to continue down the road of addiction have many options. " ...........yes and you forgot to mention changing their ways - many do it all the time , they put their lives back together promising themselves to keep with that program , i know we have members of society that should be institutionalized for their well being but someone decided that was wrong back when , we now deal with it in a different way , Unfortunately, we don’t deal with it very well at all in my opinion. I feel particularly bad for the children and veterans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 me too , they are the ones that i think we fail the most - start with taking care of our veterans , they did what the federal government was mandated by the constitution to do , we have an obligation to them and have always fallen short on that task , the children is another story , i have a lot of conflicting thoughts here that are complicated by knowledge of past solutions that were as unconstitutional as any , bottom line is these kids deserve a decent start and dont get it because of decisions made by their parents , we cant fix everything - maybe we need to start with the children ? i dont have a perfect answer , whats happening is not working so far , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-Eye Ned Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I'm not keen on the choosers. No one said life was easy. Life is not supposed to be a free ride, if you are capable of working. Those in dire straits that cannot help themselves for whatever reason are a different breed and I try to help indirectly. Some of the choosers will eventually wake up and drag themselves to a work life, and if smart enough, will save for retirement. Others who just want a free ride apparently think or expect the government to take care of them; they will enslave the working savers if the Federal Government goes Socialistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 cant disagree with the "work first" attitude , lived it and still am in retirement - i work 4 days a week now instead of 7 but im not complaining , it keeps us alive to be doing things , making $13 an hour instead of multiple times that is not the point any longer - its getting up and doing it , i did save and ill live fine with or without any 'job' i might do , work is a great interaction of the mind and body with others to the betterment of all , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Hicks Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 I work in addiction and mental health in a rehab setting and half way house. I also used to work with guys on re-entry as a recovery coach. To be honest, while I originally just wanted to get a Masters in Counseling for a practical job higher up in the field, now I just want to go the PhD route and do research. I’m just too burned out to do the social work piece of it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 7 hours ago, Whiskey Hicks said: I work in addiction and mental health in a rehab setting and half way house. I also used to work with guys on re-entry as a recovery coach. To be honest, while I originally just wanted to get a Masters in Counseling for a practical job higher up in the field, now I just want to go the PhD route and do research. I’m just too burned out to do the social work piece of it anymore. Better get that "collaborative documentation" completed. I'm just the facilities supervisor, I've seen some weird stuff over the last 12 years. Our PhD's are directors in some of the county clinics. Other's that have become PhD's have started their own practices and can pick a better clientele with more money or better insurance. I'm happy repairing the physical plant rather than attempting to repair minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 9 hours ago, Whiskey Hicks said: I work in addiction and mental health in a rehab setting and half way house. I also used to work with guys on re-entry as a recovery coach. To be honest, while I originally just wanted to get a Masters in Counseling for a practical job higher up in the field, now I just want to go the PhD route and do research. I’m just too burned out to do the social work piece of it anymore. Whiskey, you've found a good hobby to let you relax and enjoy some pure escapism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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