Dirty Dog Doug Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Today was first day we could smell the smoke the first pic should show the Oakland coliseum , just smoke now local news said 30 plus fires around the bay plus power cuts cause CA removed 10 gigawatts of Natural gas power plants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 It is ghastly brown in Sacramento this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 We've smelled smoke in the CA foothills, east of Sacramento, for two days now. Today, the sun is small and orange. The sky is overcast with smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Jack, SASS #77862 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Down here in the Paso Robles area it's the same, Really bad since Sunday. Supposedly blowing down the Salinas valley from up Salinas way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Garrett Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 The result of all the dems blowing smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 And I can't get my 6-cylinder Dodge Ram smog checked 'cause of an occasional cylinder #2 misfire. By the way - just north of Fresno the sky is completely overcast with smoke. Smells narsty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Yesterday about 6 p.m. I took our dog out to piddle. It was still about 98F and there was alts of ash in the air. This was in the NE part of Santa Rosa, a fair way from the fires. Lots of ash in the air today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I went to pick Rita up at the Vet today and found my car covered with ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pay Dirt Norvelle #90056 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 This morning I went out to go to my local coffee shop and both my car and my wife's had a whole bunch of ashes on them. I think it was from the Santa Cruz Area fires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 One beneficial side effect ~ forecast for today was 108° (we get 3 - 4 degrees above forecast), but it only hit 89°. Much appreciated relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dog Doug Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 From pics I have seen it will be worse before it gets any better 367 fires across Nor Cal the overworked firefighter are defended buildings the best they can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, Dirty Dog Doug said: From pics I have seen it will be worse before it gets any better 367 fires across Nor Cal the overworked firefighter are defended buildings the best they can Heard on the radio this morning that they are now understaffed over fears of prison crews and volunteers spreading the corona virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dog Doug Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 Travis AFB has ordered all Non essential workers and family to evacuate Lots of other cities are ordering evacuations Lots of "Open Spaces" are now burned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I went outside about 12:30 pm and the sky was blue. By 12:30, it was smoky and still is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Our new neighbor works for CalFire as a heavy equipment operator. I guess he's busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 All this smoke and ash has many of us edgy, what with the Tubbs/Nuns Fires , Kincade Fire, and others . We're safe, nothing real close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxahachie Kid #17017 L Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 For those of us that do not live in California, we figure the dry conditions, lack of adequate rainfall, and carelessness with campfires, to name just three things, play a part in all this. The question I have is...is there anything that can be done, that isn't being done now, to help make these fires somewhat more preventable, or to help make them somewhat less destructive? You Pards, who live out there, are the one's that, like as not, will have some ideas on this. Perhaps everything that can be done, is being done, but the fly in the buttermilk is, we who don't live there, just don't know. We hate it so bad that folks, that live there, can lose everything, and have to start over...or try to start over. We know some things, that are lost, cannot be replaced. It's a sad thing. W.K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 43 minutes ago, Waxahachie Kid #17017 L said: the dry conditions, lack of adequate rainfall, and carelessness with campfires, to name just three things, play a part in all this. The question I have is...is there anything that can be done, that isn't being done now, to help make these fires somewhat more preventable, or to help make them somewhat less destructive? Most of these big ones were. I think, started by lightning strikes - although arson may play a part in one. Up here we haven't seen significant rain since May. A few 1/100s now and then. What we are seeing is almost a century of total containment (put out every fire as fast as possible), coupled with poor management (few controlled burns or other clearing of underburden), coupled with the anti-logging mentality, coupled with urban boundries that run hard up against wild land, usually chaparral , with no decent cleared zone between, and with poor choice of building materials, coupled with more people building deep into forest or brush with one lane access. In the Tubbs Fire in 2017 we saw the urban version of a Crown Fire with the strong wind advancing embers from roof to roof as the fire came out of the hills down to the Santa Rosa Plane. Timeline for it: From Calistoga to Coffee Park is about 17 miles. It took about 6 hours to get there. Here is some of the terrain it went through, primarily Porter Creek, but also the 2nd image.Here is what a Berkeley Fire Dept. crew saw coming into Santa Rosa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dog Doug Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 yes we could cut trees down but in CA that just about illegal most of these fires are from lighting and poor forest management last year fires where blamed on our power people PGE but if homeowner tree falls in power lines and starts a fire who fault it it ? most of time we have one local fire and firefighters from all over come to snuff it out fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 A good source to look around the North Bay. The Mt. Vaca cameras were destroyed by the fires.http://www.alertwildfire.org/northbay/?camera=Axis-BarnhamSouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dog Doug Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 the fires are bringing out the best in Cowboys 2 guys in my club have offered to take any horses that are to close to fires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 It's another beautiful day here in the CA foothills. NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 16 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Most of these big ones were. I think, started by lightning strikes - although arson may play a part in one. Up here we haven't seen significant rain since May. A few 1/100s now and then. What we are seeing is almost a century of total containment (put out every fire as fast as possible), coupled with poor management (few controlled burns or other clearing of underburden), coupled with the anti-logging mentality, coupled with urban boundries that run hard up against wild land, usually chaparral , with no decent cleared zone between, and with poor choice of building materials, coupled with more people building deep into forest or brush with one lane access. In the Tubbs Fire in 2017 we saw the urban version of a Crown Fire with the strong wind advancing embers from roof to roof as the fire came out of the hills down to the Santa Rosa Plane. Timeline for it: From Calistoga to Coffee Park is about 17 miles. It took about 6 hours to get there. Here is some of the terrain it went through, primarily Porter Creek, but also the 2nd image.Here is what a Berkeley Fire Dept. crew saw coming into Santa Rosa. Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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