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22 minutes ago, Alpo said:

Don't know about Canada, but I've read that the ones in England are bearskin.

 

I have read that, and have wondered - were there ever bears in England?  

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A friend of mine at the time took a solo trip to the U.P. of Michigan.  It was cool out at the end of the day so he had on full leathers and a good helmet.  As he was rolling along a moose crossed in front of him.  Moose vs. motorcycle with rider...winner by knock out moose.  He went a$$ over tea kettle but was able to walk away, his bike was totaled, he flew home.

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On 8/18/2020 at 8:56 PM, Utah Bob #35998 said:

Not sure who was in combat in 74.

 

Records show 1 American soldier died in Nam in 74 and 62 in 75

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3 hours ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said:

Well, it can at least be used as a bore mop. :rolleyes: 

 

BTW, what are they made of and what's the original purpose behind them? Were they ever worn in combat back in their day?

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The Imperial Guard were Napoleon’s elite troops, hand-picked for bravery and experience. Founded in 1804, the Guard grew from a personal bodyguard to become an army within the French Army, with its own artillery, cavalry and infantry. The infantry wore bearskin headdresses, as a status symbol and to make themselves look taller and more fearsome in battle.

At Waterloo, the Emperor Napoleon held back his Guard regiments, keeping them in reserve until the very end of the battle. By 7.30pm on 18 June 1815, the situation was desperate for the French. In a final, desperate attempt to win the battle, Napoleon sent the Middle Guard regiments up the hill of Mont St Jean, towards the Allied army.

The British 1st Foot Guards, commanded by a Major-General Maitland, were lying down behind the ridge of Mont St. Jean, away from French cannon-fire. As the Imperial Guard marched over the crest of the ridge, the Duke of Wellington famously shouted, “Now Maitland! Now’s your time!” Over 1,400 British Guards stood up, in a 250-metre-long firing line, and let off a devastating volley of musket fire. Combined with the firing and bayonet charges from other British regiments, this was too much for the Imperial Guard, and they retreated.

To honour their part in this victory, the British 1st Regiment of Foot Guards had their uniforms redesigned to incorporate a bearskin headdress, replacing their peaked cap (“shako”). They were also renamed the “First or Grenadier Regiment of Foot Guards”, as the Prince Regent had been mistakenly told that the Grenadiers were the French regiment they had faced at Waterloo. In fact, the British 1st Foot Guards faced the Chasseurs regiment of French Guards. The white plume on the side of the headdress is a symbol of the Grenadiers.

The tradition of wearing bearskins on ceremonial occasions and for guard duty continues to this day. These headdresses are made with real bearskins. Each hat is 18 inches (46 cm) tall, and weighs 1.5 pounds (.7 kg). This cap is made from the pelt of a Canadian female brown bear (brown bears have thicker fur than black bears, so these pelts are simply dyed black). An entire bear skin is needed for each hat, costing about £650. If carefully maintained, these caps can last for decades.

In battle, the bearskin added height and thus an air of intimidation to the soldier who wore it. Today its use is confined to ceremonial occasions such as Trooping the Colour. For the foreign visitor to this country it is part of the image of the British Army.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said:

Well, it can at least be used as a bore mop. :rolleyes: 

 

BTW, what are they made of and what's the original purpose behind them? Were they ever worn in combat back in their day?

 

In the early 1960's, when I was a Guardsman, the Busbys were made from a bearskin.

The Regiment is associated/allied with the Coldstream Guards.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Alpo said:

Lots of stuff about bears in England here.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bears+in+England&t=ghq&ia=web

 

It appears they all died out about a thousand years ago though.

Brits killed em off fer hats. :unsure:

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