Tennessee Snuffy Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Folks I am currently using 405 g Missouri (0.459" diameter) RNFP bullets in my 45-70 Sharps. Does any commercial bullet manufacture make a postell type rounded nose bullet in 405 g 45-70? Thanks Tennessee Snuffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 True Postel weights 535gns. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pee Wee #15785 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 You might ask at http://castboolits.gunloads.com as there is loads of info on .45-70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 If you want commercially cast slugs, I'd recommend Norm Purcella of Quality Cast Bullets in Roswell, NM. He makes a lot of cast RIFLE bullets for SASS and Wild Bunch shooters!! https://quality-cast.com/ Web site lists phone contact number as 575-703-0391 Almost certainly Buffalo Arms large inventory would have something similar to what you want https://www.buffaloarms.com/reloading-supplies-accessories/jacketed-lead-copper-coated-bullets?p=15 They show the 535 grain (Lyman mold) Postell bullet right in stock. If you are serious about long range and BP bullets, you might want to be casting your own. Check Accurate Molds http://www.accuratemolds.com and Night Owl Enterprise http://noebulletmoulds.com/ Two of the best mold makers currently!! Accurate will make any design that you can draw or show a picture of, as well, at standard mold price!! As long as the design has a minimal meplat (flat nose), since they cut mold cavities directly in a CNC lathe. Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 405gr lead bullets for sale - IN STOCK: * https://statelinebullets.com/shop/cast-rifle-bullets/4570-405gr-rnfp/ * https://www.badmanbullets.com/OnlineStore/proddetail.php?prod=45/70-405-Grain-RNFP-Qty-100 PS SNUFFY... ALL 405gr 45-70 bullets ARE NOT ROUND NOSE ... THEY ARE METPLAT NOSE BULLETS (FLAT NOSE BULLETS, RNFP). and so are the Missouri Bullets that are Out of Stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee Snuffy Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 Thanks for the information. My real question is does any bullet supplier make a 405 g (0.459" diameter) round nose design for 45-70? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Drifter Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 18 minutes ago, Tennessee Snuffy said: Thanks for the information. My real question is does any bullet supplier make a 405 g (0.459" diameter) round nose design for 45-70? Thanks Magnus bullets 18 minutes ago, Tennessee Snuffy said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 YES, as I referenced before, the Buffalo Arms on-line store has 405 grain round nose .458 cast lead bullets in the catalog, but they are out of stock right now! Might call them and find out when they expect them back in stock. Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pee Wee #15785 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 https://www.sageoutfitters.com/page/page/7184637.htm Might have them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Sage Outfitters (SageBrush) has this warning posted on their main bullet casting page: Quote We are Not taking orders for bullets at this time due to overwhelming health issues. So that supplier is out of the game right now. Sadly, GJ And Magnus lists only one 405 grain bullet, and it's a round nose flat point. Although the .45-70 usually shoots a RNFP as well as a RN, the OP seems dead set on having a round nose bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Sheridan Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 You will not likely see any bullets from Sage in the future unless they have someone start casting for them. Unfortunately Harlan who owned the company with his wife passed away a few weeks ago to Brain Cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I suspect there is a very good reason you don't find Postels or any other round nose profile in 45-70 cast lead bullet weights below 500 grains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Examples of 405 grain or lighter RN bullets suitable for 45-70 (but not necessarily in a magazine rifle) 393 gr https://noebulletmolds.com/site/product-category/458-460/460-393-rn-ae4 405 gr https://www.buffaloarms.com/458-405-grain-rn-hollow-base-quality-hand-cast-lead-bullets-20-1-spg-lube-box-of-50-458405hb 385 gr https://www.lymanproducts.com/reloading/bullet-casting/bullet-moulds/rifle-bullet-moulds and a 405 gr rounded spire point from Saeco (look in lower right corner of page)https://www.redding-reloading.com/online-catalog/87-saeco-precision-bullet-moulds, Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: Sage Outfitters (SageBrush) has this warning posted on their main bullet casting page: So that supplier is out of the game right now. Sadly, GJ And Magnus lists only one 405 grain bullet, and it's a round nose flat point. Although the .45-70 usually shoots a RNFP as well as a RN, the OP seems dead set on having a round nose bullet. Harlan Sage, the primary owner of Sage Outfitters recently passed away from cancer. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee Snuffy Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 Folks Thanks for the information.. Does anyone know why no manufacture makes a RN 405g bullet? Probably no real market since the RNFP seems to do the job. Am I barking up the wrong tree trying to find a RN 405 g bullet? Thanks again. Tennessee Snuffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Tennessee Snuffy said: Does anyone know why no manufacture makes a RN 405g bullet? Probably no real market since the RNFP seems to do the job. I've already proved to you there are molds made and at least one bullet supplier carries that bullet in their catalog. Go back and read closely. There is NO MAGIC BULLET for any given cast bullet rifle type. Until you try several loads with a given bullet in YOUR rifle, you will not know if that bullet satisfies you. And you now should know that you can make your own if you can't find a supplier who already makes a particular design. You haven't even told us what rifle type you are shooting, and why you feel let down about the first bullet you tried. Using a lever gun or a single shot? A single shot has a LOT more possible bullet choices that feed well. Instead, you are going on some other shooter's recommendation of "Use a Postell design" because that's what works in their gun. The usual REASON WHY bullet makers don't make any one particular bullet is that there is not enough demand from their existing customer base to cast that slug. They can not make every possible design of slug. They make a few that are widely used, and may be willing to add another to their production if a customer or a hundred ask them to. If you really want a light Postell, call your existing supplier and ask if they would consider making one. If that doesn't work, call a few more. If that doesn't work, cast your own. Otherwise, a RNFP 405 is what many shooters find works real well in THEIR .45-70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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