Subdeacon Joe Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Amazing. But if all those had been saved and brought back to the US they would have been used up and their aura and mystique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Badly Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 P-38 Lightnings? Oh the humanity!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mister Badly said: P-38 Lightnings? Oh the humanity!!!! Also Dakotas, and I think A-20 Havocs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 And some Mitchell’s. And a few Black Widows! (Red circle) And something I’m not quite sure about (green circle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: And some Mitchell’s. And a few Black Widows! (Red circle) And something I’m not quite sure about (green circle) Might not be allied airplane in the green circle. That and the one above it are suspect. Pretty sure this is a Pacific area graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 38 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: And some Mitchell’s. And a few Black Widows! (Red circle) And something I’m not quite sure about (green circle) Green circle - P1 Explorer? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrams_P-1_Explorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Only one was built and never left the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Green circle looks like anothe P-61 Black Widow at a different angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, Tom Bullweed said: Green circle looks like anothe P-61 Black Widow at a different angle. Could be. Something about it just looks off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Subdeacon Joe Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: That is one gorgeous aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 11 hours ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: Might not be allied airplane in the green circle. That and the one above it are suspect. Pretty sure this is a Pacific area graveyard. Probably an early model P-61 without the radar installation & nose cone. The angle of the photo makes the fuselage look a little "fatter". but the wing shape is correct. The early models lacked the .50 turret on top of the fuselage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 A huge "pit" was created at Clark AB in the Philippines. Hundreds of intact p-38s were shoved into it and buried. Still There?? Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four-Eyed Buck,SASS #14795 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Probably somewhat worse for wear by now. There were some C-47 fuselages in that picture as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 34 minutes ago, Four-Eyed Buck,SASS #14795 said: Probably somewhat worse for wear by now. There were some C-47 fuselages in that picture as well Yeah a lot of em. Could probably dust em off and make em flyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-Eye Ned Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 18 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: My uncle John flew a P-38G for escort and pursuit missions during WWII n the Pacific from New Guinea. The early models were notorious for having cavitation problem of descent. Despite several missions, he crashed it and didn’t survive. There was no report we ever received that indicated why he crashed; but, it makes me wonder if it had the cavitation problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 8 hours ago, Chantry said: Probably an early model P-61 without the radar installation & nose cone. The angle of the photo makes the fuselage look a little "fatter". but the wing shape is correct. The early models lacked the .50 turret on top of the fuselage. That's probably correct. Many of the top turrets were removed as they were more trouble than they were worth, plus not all that necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc X Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: That's probably correct. Many of the top turrets were removed as they were more trouble than they were worth, plus not all that necessary. Also of the 450 P-61B's built the first 200 did not even have the upper turret installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 My granddad was a B25 driver in N Africa. Then he transitioned to the P61 for the Pacific fracas. Fortunately they dropped the big one before he headed over there. I recall he said the P61 had the glide characteristics of a brick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 It has the look of a diorama model, but this site labels the pic as "Boneyard in the South Pacific, 1946".https://aviationhumor.net/world-war-ii-airplane-graveyards-what-a-waste/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I wonder could the green circled one be a C-87 or C-119 "Flying Boxcar"? Twin engine with a fat fuselage and doors on the aft end. My late friend, BG Mort Gordon was a radar intercept operator on a P-61 in the Pacific during the closing days of the Okinawa campaign. The P-61's were used primarily as fighter bombers as the Japanese didn't have much in the way of night fighters by that time. He was being transferred from one island to another on an LST when it was hit by a kamikaze! The ship sank! He was blown off and floated around in the water for about six hours before being rescued. When we would have our annual dinner of the United Veterans Council of Colorado, and a band played the various service songs, he would stand up for both the Air Force and the Navy, as he always said he got his Purple Heart with the Navy! You probably could make a few Gooney Birds out of those scraps! Just need to patch her up with duct tape, paper clips and string and stick on a couple of turboprop engines. The Gooney Bird's immortal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Like the steam roller!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Trailrider #896 said: I wonder could the green circled one be a C-87 or C-119 "Flying Boxcar"? Twin engine with a fat fuselage and doors on the aft end. My late friend, BG Mort Gordon was a radar intercept operator on a P-61 in the Pacific during the closing days of the Okinawa campaign. The P-61's were used primarily as fighter bombers as the Japanese didn't have much in the way of night fighters by that time. He was being transferred from one island to another on an LST when it was hit by a kamikaze! The ship sank! He was blown off and floated around in the water for about six hours before being rescued. When we would have our annual dinner of the United Veterans Council of Colorado, and a band played the various service songs, he would stand up for both the Air Force and the Navy, as he always said he got his Purple Heart with the Navy! You probably could make a few Gooney Birds out of those scraps! Just need to patch her up with duct tape, paper clips and string and stick on a couple of turboprop engines. The Gooney Bird's immortal! Possible but it ooks too small to be a C-82 Packet. They were pretty rare. I think only a coupl hundred were made Didn't enter service till June of '45. The C119 wan't till '47. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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