Marshal Too Tall, SASS #36690 8 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Just wanted to see if anyone out there is shooting ALL targets from the hip or what some call instinct shooting. The rules of Outlaw shooting (on the Oak Ridge Outlaws forum) state that only the rifle can be shot aiming. Personally, I shoot Ultimate Outlaw gunfighter style though other styles are acceptable. Although Outlaw shooting is not recognized as a SASS category, a lot of shooters especially in the southeast engage this form of shooting. Very few shooters around here (I know of one other shooter) shoot what I call Ultimate Outlaw where ALL guns are shot from the hip with arms bent. I consider this the most challenging category in shooting CAS unless you want to add black powder in the mix. If you engage in this form of shooting or know of someone in your area, please let me know on this thread. ...Too Tall... Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom, SASS #54973 4,686 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 "Challenging" is one way to describe it... Link to post Share on other sites
Krazy Kajun 796 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Jimmie Gunfighter in GA shoots his rifle from the hip, he’s pretty good at it too. I’d miss at least 8 or 9 if I try that. Kajun Link to post Share on other sites
Waimea 817 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Me, Jimmie and Cactus Red had a little Ultimate match going at Black Gold. Lots of fun. Loose Cinch in NC seems to be the EPICENTER of shooting rifle from the hip. I don't really care for it much as the spent shells tend to hit me in the face. I have enough trouble concentrating on hitting the targets without having to duck incoming flying objects. Link to post Share on other sites
Ringer 216 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Waimea said: Me, Jimmie and Cactus Red had a little Ultimate match going at Black Gold. Lots of fun. Loose Cinch in NC seems to be the EPICENTER of shooting rifle from the hip. I don't really care for it much as the spent shells tend to hit me in the face. I have enough trouble concentrating on hitting the targets without having to duck incoming flying objects. And how about Cinch's shotgun! Link to post Share on other sites
Waimea 817 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ringer said: And how about Cinch's shotgun! He's a madman! Link to post Share on other sites
Waimea 817 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Jimmie has a SG like it too. I tried it but didn't care for it. The stock helps me stabilize. Link to post Share on other sites
Marshal Too Tall, SASS #36690 8 Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 The one shooter that I didn't name in the original post was Loose Cinch. I have never met Waimea or seen him shoot but remember now that he does shoot Ultimate Outlaw. We have a few shooters around here that occasionally shoot Ultimate Outlaw but not on a regular basis like me. I tell them that if you are aiming you are still in training! ...Too Tall.. Link to post Share on other sites
Waimea 817 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, Marshal Too Tall, SASS #36690 said: The one shooter that I didn't name in the original post was Loose Cinch. I have never met Waimea or seen him shoot but remember now that he does shoot Ultimate Outlaw. We have a few shooters around here that occasionally shoot Ultimate Outlaw but not on a regular basis like me. I tell them that if you are aiming you are still in training! ...Too Tall.. I only shoot Ultimate when I am shamed into it. That's difficult as, generally, I have no shame. Link to post Share on other sites
Palmetto Traveller 181 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Doc Who out of Columbia, SC has been doing that as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Barkeep Casey 264 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Another Ultimate Outlaw is Dirt Road Dude in Alabama. Always fun to watch! But Loose Cinch wins the style points. Link to post Share on other sites
Silver Rings SASS # 27466 80 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 I have been shooting shotgun from the hip since 2000 and the rifle for about 4 or more years. I shot pistols from the hip for a while but felt sorry for the counters so don't do It to often now. Rifle brass will go down the shirt or hit me in the face at times. I haven't come up with a fix yet. Silver Rings Link to post Share on other sites
Black Hills Barb 426 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 We have had interest in it for many years and offer it as a category at our matches. We usually have at least 3 outlaws at our state match. It's becoming more popular all the time, especially with seasoned shooters that are looking for something new to try. I think we only have one that shoots all his guns from the hip. We are one of the few clubs that allow hip shooting, too. Link to post Share on other sites
Marshal Too Tall, SASS #36690 8 Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 Frankly, I'm surprised as to how few shooters engage in Ultimate Outlaw as I call it. We are apparently a rare group that has too much fun! I have heard others complaining about brass hitting them in the face, but not me for some reason. I guess it depends on the angle of ejection or how I hold the rifle. I also have to admit that Loose Cinch with his double cocking earns style points in my book. ...Too Tall... Link to post Share on other sites
Jackalope 238 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 The brass doesn't hit Loose Cinch in the face, but then, he's about 6' 5". Too Tall on the other side is...well, he's not quite 6' 5". I can't carry enough shotgun shells to hip shoot a stage. Maybe I need an extra belt full. Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Badly 525 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 I shot a few from the hip last week during practice. Did ok. When you think you have a bead on the knockdowns, go lower. Link to post Share on other sites
Marshal Too Tall, SASS #36690 8 Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 By the way, if you think shooting Ultimate Outlaw is near impossible to clean a match....think again. Not to toot my horn, but I have shot many clean matches. Of couse the most difficult targets are small and far away and shot with the rifle. I think the stage writers around here like to set those up just for me! ...Too Tall... Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Badly 525 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I practice on setup day but haven't shot a match yet due to covid-19. Here is a link to a few videos. Link to post Share on other sites
Ringer 216 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, Mister Badly said: I practice on setup day but haven't shot a match yet due to covid-19. Here is a link to a few videos. What's that grey stuff on your face? You stocked up on Nathan's yet? Look forward to seeing you back at it. Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Badly 525 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Covid beard. Got a new fan powered cart AKA sweat stopper. No room for Nathan's but I do eat them regularly. Looking forward to seeing you too. Had planned on showing up at Dark Days in January to watch you defend your title but might be too soon the way things are going. Maybe Ides. Link to post Share on other sites
Blackwater 53393 6,045 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Y'all should remember that Yazzoo City Gal was shooting Ultimate Outlaw before most EVERYONE else!! Link to post Share on other sites
Waimea 817 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 45 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said: Y'all should remember that Yazzoo City Gal was shooting Ultimate Outlaw before most EVERYONE else!! And her double is crazy fast! She's my hero. Waimea (Tried a double once. Makes a great tomato stake) Link to post Share on other sites
Ringer 216 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Mister Badly said: Covid beard. Got a new fan powered cart AKA sweat stopper. No room for Nathan's but I do eat them regularly. Looking forward to seeing you too. Had planned on showing up at Dark Days in January to watch you defend your title but might be too soon the way things are going. Maybe Ides. Aw new cart. Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Badly 525 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 This is probably a better link with multiple videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCb5sCyyJB4zeiQE0F5N-kQ Link to post Share on other sites
Sixgun Seamus 1,838 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 7/27/2020 at 4:27 PM, Palmetto Traveler said: Doc Who out of Columbia, SC has been doing that as well. Got to shoot with Doc Who at the Ides. Impressive. Worth the price of admission to watch him. Told him that he was my new hero. Link to post Share on other sites
evil dogooder 1,005 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 I've been playing with outlaw a lot more lately... all guns from the hip. I even shot speed rifle that way at regionals a few runs. Shouldered was about 2 seconds fasted Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Badly 525 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 My 73 has a 24" barrel which helps keep it level/steady. I think the leather stock cover helps too but suede/rough leather would help more to keep it locked into my side during faster levering. Link to post Share on other sites
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