Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Just read on another forum that Remington Arms is up for sale. RUMOR has it that the Navaho Nation wants to buy it. Anybody know anything about this issue? Also heard that Remington was laying off more workers in New York. Rumor or Fact? I donno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 In the news: https://www.syracuse.com/business/2020/06/remington-arms-may-file-bankruptcy-again-could-be-bought-by-navajo-nation-report.html https://nypost.com/2020/06/26/gunmaker-remington-preps-for-bankruptcy-sale-to-navajo-nation/ https://www.reuters.com/article/remington-arms-bankruptcy/update-1-remington-arms-prepares-for-bankruptcy-navajo-tribe-in-talks-to-buy-source-idUSL4N2E32QP https://www.daily-times.com/story/news/local/navajo-nation/2020/06/29/navajo-nation-talks-buy-firearms-guns-manufacturer-remington/3278771001/ These idiots can't write an article without mentioning Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 Well, I guess that answers that. Thank you Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 And they still claim an AR-15 was used at Sandy Hook, it wasn't. Search You Tube for where all the major news networks corrected it. Also, I heard from an actual teacher there it was a black pistol. Also, wasn't Adam Lanza! I'm so sick of the lying BS. Here is one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Well, let's see... The SCOTUS ruled that half of Oklahoma belongs to the Muskogee (Creek) Nation, there are riots all over the country, and on top of it all, the Navaho Nation is looking to buy Remington Arms!?? Wonder if the Navaho Nation would move the manufacturing facilities to Arizona or New Mexico??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Trailrider #896 said: Well, let's see... The SCOTUS ruled that half of Oklahoma belongs to the Muskogee (Creek) Nation, there are riots all over the country, and on top of it all, the Navaho Nation is looking to buy Remington Arms!?? Wonder if the Navaho Nation would move the manufacturing facilities to Arizona or New Mexico??? Hopefully here. We can use the jobs. And most of the Apaches and Navajos I know are very pro gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. James H. Callahan Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 They need to come to Texas like TESLA. JHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Trailrider #896 said: Well, let's see... The SCOTUS ruled that half of Oklahoma belongs to the Muskogee (Creek) Nation, there are riots all over the country, and on top of it all, the Navaho Nation is looking to buy Remington Arms!?? Wonder if the Navaho Nation would move the manufacturing facilities to Arizona or New Mexico??? I think I'd rather see Remington based in Farmington or Ship Rock than Ilion, NY these days. Got to be a friendlier environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxahachie Kid #17017 L Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 If the Navajo Nation does buy Remington, let's hope they hire some real quality-control folks, especially on the Marlin side of the business. It's better, but still inconsistent. Inconsistent quality is unacceptable, in any industry. For us, here, it is especially true for firearms. W.K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 21 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: Hopefully here. We can use the jobs. And most of the Apaches and Navajos I know are very pro gun. Gee, what historical reality would drive a worldview in which you distrust the government and want to be armed to protect yourselves from them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 14 hours ago, Waxahachie Kid #17017 L said: If the Navajo Nation does buy Remington, let's hope they hire some real quality-control folks, especially on the Marlin side of the business. It's better, but still inconsistent. Inconsistent quality is unacceptable, in any industry. For us, here, it is especially true for firearms. W.K. If they follow the pattern I've seen elsewhere in various Indian-owned businesses they will get whoever they need to get the job done. Joke around here is the Apache and Navajo couldn't get ahead until they started hiring white eyes to run their casinos and resorts....under very close supervision. Now they can sit back and collect the profits and buy MORE businesses. Might not be a joke at all because they seem to be doing just that and thriving when everyone else is struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: If they follow the pattern I've seen elsewhere in various Indian-owned businesses they will get whoever they need to get the job done. Joke around here is the Apache and Navajo couldn't get ahead until they started hiring white eyes to run their casinos and resorts....under very close supervision. Now they can sit back and collect the profits and buy MORE businesses. Might not be a joke at all because they seem to be doing just that and thriving when everyone else is struggling. Well I wouldn’t call it thriving just yet. They have a lot of work to do in the Nation to improve their lot. It would help if the Federal govt and the laughable BIA would get their act together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 So much for the Navajo deal. https://www.wsj.com/articles/navajo-nation-breaks-off-talks-to-buy-remington-out-of-bankruptcy-11595615617?mod=hp_lista_pos4 LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I wonder what John Marlin would think of selling his company to the Indians? Times have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D. Daily Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 The issue is moot now that the Navajo nation has called off the talks; but, one of the articles stated the Navajo's plans were to stop production of evil black rifles except for law enforcement sales & SMART GUN TECH. This native American tribe are dumber business persons than I thought. There must be a few gun nuts in the tribe that would clue them in. A firearm mfg. that embraces "Smart Guns" won't have any customers. The only customers they will have are a few fudds that are loyal Remington shotgun, bolt gun or lever gun owners. Can't imagine the profits from future sales of firearms & ammo has a net present value of $330 million. Remember what happened to the CA gun dealer that was selling that German Smart 22LR handgun or what happened to S&W's sales when they rolled over and signed a marketing code of conduct with Andrew Cuomo when he was the Hillbilly Whore Hopper's HHS secretary. How many 2A supporters darken the doors of a Dick's or Field & Stream store? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 6 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Well I wouldn’t call it thriving just yet. They have a lot of work to do in the Nation to improve their lot. It would help if the Federal govt and the laughable BIA would get their act together. BIA is a joke, Has been for a century or more. Lots of places the nations have taken over their own fate and are thriving. Casinos, resorts, malls (not so great right now) and other ventures. Not all. Southern Utah and a lot of New Mexico really suck. Probably other places too. I'd like to see them move ahead, but a lot of the natives just will not adapt and are willing to keep on living off of handouts, government money, and crap jobs. It's not all the white man's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxahachie Kid #17017 L Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 This topic reminds me. I was watching a t.v. documentary, last year, about how this man was suing Remington, because he claimed the company had a defective trigger, on their model 700 bolt action rifle. He had lost his son in a shooting accident, involving this. They would show it being loaded, and it would go off if the shooter either clicked off the safety, or worked the bolt, without pulling the trigger. The person doing the interview even went to the still living Remington trigger designer to talk to him about it. He was getting on up there, in years, but still tinkered around in his garage workshop, and his mind was still sharp. He said he recognized the problem, and that the company could fix it, for a very reasonable price...like less than a few dollars each, but that they chose not to. It seems they did not want to go through a bunch of recalls, of the rifle to correct it. Later, in the documentary, Remington accused the documentary folks of harassing the ex-employee, and confusing him, into saying all this. However, after years of law suits, they finally redesigned the trigger, but by then the cost was a lot higher. Now whether this documentary was true, or mostly true, or whatever, I have no way of knowing. It was presented as true, and the old man that was the designer of the trigger, did agree with the documentary, on camera, anyway. If they pressured, or harassed him, it did not make it to the documentary. Regardless, that documentary did leave a bad taste with me. Seeing the inconsistent quality of the Marlins, that have come out since they bought the company, and shut down the New Haven plant, has not inspired a lot of faith in them. Of course the decision to not recall and fix the trigger, was made long ago, by a different group of people, but the problem persisted long after those folks made the decision to not address the problem. They were aware of the problem, yet continued to do nothing about it...other than to deny it. If, and I say if, this is an accurate documentary, it might cause less sympathy for their financial woes. There are a lot of things a business has to make sure they pay attention to, if they want to succeed. I know, from experience, that even when management seems to do everything right, the business may still struggle, and perhaps fail. Honesty, integrity, consistent quality, and the golden rule toward, not only the customer, but to the employees, as well, is just the beginning. None of us want to see another American firearm company go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punxsutawneypete Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 19 hours ago, J.D. Daily said: The issue is moot now that the Navajo nation has called off the talks; but, one of the articles stated the Navajo's plans were to stop production of evil black rifles except for law enforcement sales & SMART GUN TECH. Smart guns? They can't make smart paper towel dispensers for the men's rooms in the PA Turnpike plazas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D. Daily Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, punxsutawneypete said: Smart guns? They can't make smart paper towel dispensers for the men's rooms in the PA Turnpike plazas. Smart guns are guns that don't shoot. Only gullible sheep would buy a smart gun for self defense. Ask Apple why they have a 911 bypass on iPhones. The finger print unlock on the iPhone 6 was a PITA. Eventually I always used an unlock code. So when the thug threatens you you have to key in a code before you engage the thug. Guaranteed to get you killed. My motto if the cops won't use it I won't use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 The fingerprint unlock only works if your fingers are clean and dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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