J-BAR #18287 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I had never seen this movie. I have heard about it since it hit the theaters in 1955; what a classic it was, what a great performance by James Dean. So I recorded it a few days ago when it came on Turner Classic Movies and watched it while I rode my exercise bike. Extremely disappointing, trash, waste of time, pick your description. If you liked it, great, not wanting an argument. Just wondering if you have had a similar disappointment with another “classic” movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Tried watching it years ago. Couldn’t make it thru. I feel the same way about the “ultimate” classic, Citizen Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawhorse Kid Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Rebel Without a Cause I liked. Citizen Cane, I have to agree ..... Disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagebrush Burns, SASS # 14226 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Another one for the list: "The Third Man". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasty Newt # 7365 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Citizen Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Hicks Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Citizen Kane was supposed to be a hit piece anyways. There are some valid criticisms of the real life figure, but there’s a lot of fabrication as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Any Orson Wells movie. He had a fantastic voice. Love listening to him on the War of the Worlds. But his movies - Third Man, Kane, Ambersons - terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I would say you need to consider context when it comes to Rebel Without a Cause. It was released just after James Dean's death and has become iconic for that reason, if for no other. While I never particularly cared for the movie, it did highlight his potential as an actor, along with that of a young Natalie Wood. I will admit I never enjoyed Citizen Kane. I understand why it is supposed to be "great cinema" but I struggled to watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 54 minutes ago, DocWard said: I would say you need to consider context when it comes to Rebel Without a Cause. It was released just after James Dean's death and has become iconic for that reason, if for no other. While I never particularly cared for the movie, it did highlight his potential as an actor, along with that of a young Natalie Wood. I will admit I never enjoyed Citizen Kane. I understand why it is supposed to be "great cinema" but I struggled to watch it. Agree on Rebel. Not a particularly memorable film. Kind of formulaic for the time period. And it gets no better with age. Citizen Kane was too much for me. Much like trying to read another “masterpiece”, Great Expectations, in 8th grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I recently re-watched 2001: A Space Odyssey and overall found it boring and I'm a big science fiction fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Rebel Without a Cause The Third Man was a very good Film Noir movie. The problem that most people can’t abide is the overly intrusive Zither music which would maybe be okay in the background if the volume was much lower. Orson Wells was definitely one of a kind. Sometimes brilliant, sometimes excruciatingly way over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chantry said: I recently re-watched 2001: A Space Odyssey and overall found it boring and I'm a big science fiction fan. Another film that was groundbreaking in it’s time, mostly for special effects. Stoners seemed to like it. I found it interesting until it got so far out weirdly philosophical. You know the Bonk noise the computer makes when you try to do something wrong? A friend of mine had a brother named Dave who reprogrammed his computer so instead of the Bonk, it said in HAL’s voice... ”I’m sorry, Dave. I can’t do that” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Citizen Cane is a great movie............to fall asleep to!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazos John Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Another film that was groundbreaking in it’s time, mostly for special effects. Stoners seemed to like it. I found it interesting until it got so far out weirdly philosophical. You know the Bonk noise the computer makes when you try to do something wrong? A friend of mine had a brother named Dave who reprogrammed his computer so instead of the Bonk, it said in HAL’s voice... ”I’m sorry, Dave. I can’t do that” I was in college when 2001 came out. I biked to the drive-in and saw it from against the fence. I remember how long it took the ship to cross the screen. But, I read the book first, and it explained a whole lot of stuff that you couldn't get from the monkey's facial expressions. It explained the obelisk, and lots of other details. It helped make sense of the movie. And I like your friend's computer work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2001 Space Odyssey, the only good thing was the music! Otherwise it was sooooo boring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 2010 was better than 2001, one of the rare instances where the sequel is better than the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 10 hours ago, J-BAR #18287 said: Extremely disappointing, trash, waste of time, pick your description. If you liked it, great, not wanting an argument. Just wondering if you have had a similar disappointment with another “classic” movie? Agree 100%. James Dean was a poor actor and that whiney pouty look just makes me want to slap him, even though I know that impossible. Never understood the hype. Classic Movies that I didn't or don't like... Gone With the Wind - Yawn Once Upon a Time in the West - Yuck West Side Story Dog Day Afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: 2001 Space Odyssey, the only good thing was the music! Otherwise it was sooooo boring! The only movie I ever walked out on. "Boring" is a compliment. LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Starship Troopers All iterations of Dune Andromeda Strain To some extent all movies based on Clancy novels. Well, if you read the book first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I didn’t like the movies I watched with James Dean as actor. I found him whiny, effeminate, and his acting unconvincing and underwhelming. Cat Brules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Agree 100%. James Dean was a poor actor and that whiney pouty look just makes me want to slap him, even though I know that impossible. Never understood the hype. Classic Movies that I didn't or don't like... Gone With the Wind - Yawn Once Upon a Time in the West - Yuck West Side Story Dog Day Afternoon You are not a teen age female, Pat. James Dean was a hormone actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 said: You are not a teen age female, Pat. James Dean was a HORRIBLE actor. There...Fixed it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Just now, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: There...Fixed it for you. He could have been classified as both Hormone/ Horrible. But, and there is always that ugly but, HE SOLD BOX OFFICE FOR THE STUDIO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Angus McPherson Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Another film that was groundbreaking in it’s time, mostly for special effects. Stoners seemed to like it. I found it interesting until it got so far out weirdly philosophical. You know the Bonk noise the computer makes when you try to do something wrong? A friend of mine had a brother named Dave who reprogrammed his computer so instead of the Bonk, it said in HAL’s voice... ”I’m sorry, Dave. I can’t do that” A friend of mine rigged his computer to say, in Curly's voice from the Three Stooges: "I'm tryin' ta think, but nothin' happens!" Angus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Starship Troopers All iterations of Dune Andromeda Strain To some extent all movies based on Clancy novels. Well, if you read the book first. Well, Starship Troopers was a Heinlein novel well before Clancy’s time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Starship Troopers All iterations of Dune Andromeda Strain To some extent all movies based on Clancy novels. Well, if you read the book first. my wife agrees with you on ST to me it's THE BUG MOVIE! Love it cause it's so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L said: my wife agrees with you on ST to me it's THE BUG MOVIE! Love it cause it's so bad To me, since I really like the book, it is so bad it's painful. Beyond Plan 9 camp bad. Same for the Dune movies. And the John Carter/ Princess of Mars films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said: To me, since I really like the book, it is so bad it's painful. Beyond Plan 9 camp bad. Same for the Dune movies. And the John Carter/ Princess of Mars films. Agree. Heinlein’s book was great, very different from the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 11 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: To me, since I really like the book, it is so bad it's painful. Beyond Plan 9 camp bad. Same for the Dune movies. And the John Carter/ Princess of Mars films. No! No!! John Carter made Dejah Thoris come alive!!! That buxom queen of sci fi books that I dreamed about in 7th grade!! And there she was on screen, with minimalist clothing, tattoos, and eyes made for love! Please don't put her in the same group as Dune and the Bug Movie!!! By the way - in the most recent Bosch series, the homicidal wife is played by Lynn Collins, aka Dejah Thoris. LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-Eye Ned Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I prefer Giant, by far and wide. RWOAC is one of those teenage movies full of silly melodrama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Giant is quite a yarn. Not unlike How the West Was Won. Pretty good flick for the era, but very long at 3.5 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 hours ago, J-BAR #18287 said: Agree. Heinlein’s book was great, very different from the movie. Paul Veerhoven never even read the book! Maybe if he had he'd have understood what was wrong with his movie! Basicaly everything!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 said: That buxom queen of sci fi books that I dreamed about in 7th grade!! Dreamed? Or fantasized? Yeah. Especially some of the 1930s artwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffield, SASS #23454 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Well, Starship Troopers was a Heinlein novel well before Clancy’s time. The movie Starship Troopers was so different from the book that there must have been a major earth quake from Heinlein rolling in his grave. Duffield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagebrush Burns, SASS # 14226 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 15 hours ago, Chantry said: I recently re-watched 2001: A Space Odyssey and overall found it boring and I'm a big science fiction fan. This movie really requires a big screen, No, not a75" screen, more like the side of the house. I first saw it in 1969 when it first came out on a huge curved screen and the visuals were beyond spectacular (and I wasn't stoned or anything). On small screen I can understand how folks think it is nothing special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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