Marshal Jennison Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I’ve been cleaning and oiling my 1929 Model 1897 takedown shotgun with CLP. Is this sufficient for wear and corrosion protection or should I also be using some form of grease? If so, on what parts? Many thanks, Jennison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Eezox .... https://shop.guntap.com/eezox-premium-ultimate-gun-care-free-shipping/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Most oils won't stay put well enough, IMHO. I use Mobil 1 grease on the carrier positioning channel (the slot with three directions of travel), underside of bolt where hammer rubs, rails of bolt. Oil the shell stops and action lock parts - I use Rem Oil. And for mag tube, clean it every six months with my moderate use and lube with Boeshield spray lube (dries very quickly and won't attract dust). Eezox is reported to work well for the mag tube, too. Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 X2 on Eezox OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Jennison Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share Posted June 26, 2020 Thanks! I’ll grease as GJ instructs as that make sense. I have Eezox and I’ll need to use it more than I do. The problem I have with Eezox is defined by the old adage “seeing is believing..”. I can’t be sure I’ve applied it uniformly or in all areas that need it; there’s no glistening or other normal signs of lube application. Any tips with that too, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again, Jennison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Apply Eezox with a Q-tip I don't use grease on any of my cowboy guns. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 8:15 AM, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Apply Eezox with a Q-tip I don't use grease on any of my cowboy guns. OLG Same with me, Lumpy. I like and use Eezox also, but not as often as I use Strikehold. There are many really good lubes on the market. Basically, I just spray Strikeforce in my action and blow the excess out with compressed air. I've experienced no amount of excessive wear on my 97's in over 10 years and they keep functioning perfect year in/year out. If you follow GJ advice, you'll be doing it right and more thorough. Good luck. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 None of my guns have sealed bearings... None of my guns use grease. Grease = crud collector. ... And is an old and out dated form of lubricant for what we do... oh, and this is an opinion so don't get all butt hurt if your opinion is different. Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Badly Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I use Lucas engine assembly lube after a thorough hosing with Rem oil. It is thick but fluid so it gets where it needs to be, and other places. I apply then cycle then wipe excess off. Some might say I over lube but as a retired journeyman machine repairman I believe a little extra is better than too little. This also allows me to dry fire without concern about wear. I clean my firearms frequently and thoroughly to degunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Just a point - "sealed bearings" never get any more grease than what was sealed in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: Just a point - "sealed bearings" never get any more grease than what was sealed in them. Oh, good retort...hahaha... Sorry you didn't get the point of my comment... Please, continue treating your gun like you do your car's differential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Oh crap... Maybe I should have said wheel bearings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I use Mobil 1 grease on the Action Slide channel. Mobil 1 motor oil everywhere else. If it moves, it needs lubrication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Here's kind of a synopsis: For intense friction and high-speed applications, an oil is typically the best choice. But other components that endure heavy loads or move vertically typically require a grease. Grease is engineered to stay in place and provide a longer lasting barrier between metal components, such as wheel-bearings. Now incorporate this into our typical SASS/CAS environment (ie: dust, dirt and for most of us, regular cleaning), and you'll see even more reasons to avoid grease...or...you can just do whatcha wanna do Phatom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazos John Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Here's an n for Phantom. I know he'll be looking for it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Brazos John said: Here's an n for Phantom. I know he'll be looking for it later. So you're the one who had it!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I'm relieved cause 'Phatomborg' just didn't sound right..... ..........Widderborg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: I'm relieved cause 'Phatomborg' just didn't sound right..... ..........Widderborg Kinda sounds like Fartomborg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Slim SASS #24733 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Compared to an automotive engine, or most any other mechanical machinery, our guns have no high-speed parts nor any moving parts that endure a heavy load. Even the fastest shooter probably only gets the cylinder to move at 100 RPM, and only for a very short time. Most of the high pressure is endure by the cylinder and barrel, which at the time are not moving at all. The cylinder ratchet might endure a bit of pressure, but it is spread over a relatively large, flat surface. In reality, we could probably lube our guns with Crisco and they would work OK, messiness aside. Just make sure you lube it with something, and clean it after use, and you should be fine. IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 7:27 AM, Widder, SASS #59054 said: Same with me, Lumpy. I like and use Eezox also, but not as often as I use Strikeforce. There are many really good lubes on the market. Basically, I just spray Strikeforce in my action and blow the excess out with compressed air. I've experienced no amount of excessive wear on my 97's in over 10 years and they keep functioning perfect year in/year out. If you follow GJ advice, you'll be doing it right and more thorough. Good luck. ..........Widder Do you mean Strikehold? OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 1 hour ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Do you mean Strikehold? OLG Thanks Lumpy.....YES, Strikehold is correct. I'll go back and correct my post..... ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Meadows,SASS#28485L Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 6:35 AM, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: None of my guns have sealed bearings... None of my guns use grease. Grease = crud collector. ... And is an old and out dated form of lubricant for what we do... oh, and this is an opinion so don't get all butt hurt if your opinion is different. Phantom Same with me. none of my guns use grease. I use Mobile one oil instead. J.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazos John Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 15 hours ago, Johnny Meadows,SASS#28485L said: Same with me. none of my guns use grease. I use Mobile one oil instead. J.M. Howdy, Johnny, You reputation precedes you, so I'm interested in your opinion. I'm fixing to clean my guns this summer, and the talk about grease vs oil is interesting. Compared to high-dollar Rem Oil, do you think Mobil 1 is a better oil? Why do you like it better? Or is it as simple as, by volume, M1 is more economical? And any one else that wants to weigh in, let me know what you think. Thanks, Brazos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 I use the fancy purple oil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Bruce Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 9:35 AM, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: ... And is an old and out dated form of lubricant for..." ...for our "old and outdated" guns? Grease is for high speed... I've seen you guys shoot, as slow as I am in comparison, I should just use sand to lube my guns... In all seriousness, I use burned trailboss residue to lube my guns along with mud (from when I throw them on the ground during a stage), dust, leaves, cat fur and every September during the WV state shoot, I use the rain to clean them off for next year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 I make my own.........bacon grease! Smells great when the gun gets hot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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