Tequila Shooter Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 IMG_1429.m4v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Check the spring on the cyl pawl. YES-you have a timing issue. What have you done to this gun? OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Second step on the hand is TOO SHORT. Need a new hand or a hand stretch. You may well find, when you stretch the hand, the hand is then too long overall and tries to index the cylinder BEFORE the bolt unlocks. Oh, forgot. YES. You do have a timing issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Shooter Posted June 8, 2020 Author Share Posted June 8, 2020 3 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Check the spring on the cyl pawl. YES-you have a timing issue. What have you done to this gun? OLG @Colorado Coffinmaker, @The Original Lumpy Gritz, @Warden Callaway Both pistols are doing the same thing. I ordered 2 new hands and 2 new blocks from Cimarron and put them in yesterday. The pistols are only a year old so they're still under warranty and Cimarron offered to warranty the repair. Warden that was a good video, I hadn't seen that one before. I now have 2 extra hands, I may try to stretch the arm or at the very least I can tell Cimarron/gunsmith what is wrong with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 In the video I made, the pistol was a Cimarron Pietta Eleminator 8 that is short stroked. I'm betting they use the same hand for both long and short stroke. If the hammer throw distance were standard, the hand may have timed right. This one was sold as a new, unfired in box traid in. But showed signs of being screwed with. I'll bet Cimarron will tell you they are fine. Just don't cock them slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Tequila Shooter said: @Colorado Coffinmaker, @The Original Lumpy Gritz, @Warden Callaway Both pistols are doing the same thing. I ordered 2 new hands and 2 new blocks from Cimarron and put them in yesterday. The pistols are only a year old so they're still under warranty and Cimarron offered to warranty the repair. Warden that was a good video, I hadn't seen that one before. I now have 2 extra hands, I may try to stretch the arm or at the very least I can tell Cimarron/gunsmith what is wrong with them. I'd let Cimarron fix'em Have'em Email the shipper to you and you can directly ship to them and they can ship them directly back to you. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Well who in the hell cocks their revolver that slowly??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Shooter Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 Thanks pards I thought it was timing but it's always good to get another opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 13 hours ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: Well who in the hell cocks their revolver that slowly??? Me, don't you remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Goody, SASS #26190 said: Me, don't you remember? Sorry Goody, but yer not foolin' nobody. Yer a hell of a good shooter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 There is also too much over-travel in the hammer. If your doing the work, START OVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Shooter Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: There is also too much over-travel in the hammer. If your doing the work, START OVER. That was before any work was done. Watching Warden's video I've started the repair. I've got one done so far and going to work on the other this afternoon. I'll post an update when done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 My Pietta Eleminator 8s have a hammer stop screw. I've not seen this on other six guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Achieved post on limiting hammer over travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Just noticed the gap between the ejector rod housing and the frame in the OP's video. That ain't 'rite'. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Shooter Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 After watching Warden's video and having an extra hand for each pistol I decided to try the repair myself. I'm very happy to report that I believe the problem is fixed. It took a little time, a little patience, and a whole lotta luck. Using Warden's way I put the hand on an anvil, and using the side of an old punch got a hammer out and stretched the hand oh so little. That's all it took to make things right and learn something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 I love a happy ending. (Stocking how soft the parts are in a Pietta, ain't it?) But the method is not "Warden's way". It's a methed used by many gunsmiths over many years. I have a large library of gunsmithing books and may have seen the method explained. I do know where I seen a visual explanation of the application. It was shown in an AGI Armorer's Course viseo that I saw. Here is an overview of the video. That can be purchased from AGI or their distributors. Used copied pop up on eBay. Last year I had the sear notches rewelded and cut on the hammer of my old Colt SAA by Spring Creek Armory in Ten Sleeps Wyoming. https://springcreekarmory.com/ He had used this method to stretch the hand to time the action after repairing the hammer. Also, last February I traided for a Colt SAA made in 1971. The action was very nice. On taking it apart, I saw evidence that it had been custom tuned. Amongst the clues, the hand had been stretched in such a manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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