Sawhorse Kid Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 These look fun. https://americanguncraft.com/product-category/diablo-12-gauge-pistol/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Howdah, there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawhorse Kid Posted June 7, 2020 Author Share Posted June 7, 2020 I thought they looked familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sawhorse Kid said: I thought they looked familiar. So old it's new again. It is amazing the stuff that keeps getting reinvented. These, the "new" rounds that duplicate the ballistics of tried and true rounds like the 6.5 x 55 but in a case that fits an AR platform, and I see someone has duplicated the 6mm Lee in a shorter case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 I doubt these will be worth thousands of dollars someday like original Howdah pistols. Still, they do look like fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang, SASS #53480 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Howdah, there! THAT 's a TOY ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 I have a .31 percussion pistol made by Classic Arms and duplicating an Ethan Allen design from WAY back. It ain't a Howdy pistol, it's more of a grin and wink gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 I don't see how it is legal. As I understand it, inline muzzleloading rifles that use shotgun primers to ignite the powder are considered modern guns. Unlike a TC Hawken, which is considered an antique, because it has that offset hammer and it uses a percussion cap. But a Knight inline is considered modern. You can't have it sent to your house through the mail. You have to buy it from an FFL. You have to fill out a 4473. You have to be called in. Since this gun also uses inline ignition and shotgun primers, it seems like it should also be considered a modern gun. And modern 12 gauge shotguns with 8 inch barrels are not legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel-eye Steve SASS #40674 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Alpo said: I don't see how it is legal. As I understand it, inline muzzleloading rifles that use shotgun primers to ignite the powder are considered modern guns. Unlike a TC Hawken, which is considered an antique, because it has that offset hammer and it uses a percussion cap. But a Knight inline is considered modern. You can't have it sent to your house through the mail. You have to buy it from an FFL. You have to fill out a 4473. You have to be called in. Since this gun also uses inline ignition and shotgun primers, it seems like it should also be considered a modern gun. And modern 12 gauge shotguns with 8 inch barrels are not legal. It’s my understanding that if you buy a TC Encore with a muzzleloading barrel a 4473 is required because it can also take barrels chambered for modern cartridges, however if the in-line is ONLY capable of being a muzzleloader, a 4473 is not required. I imagine different states might also have their own requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 More information on this item. Tested every which way, including Sunday! If I were to get one, it would be this model: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 I just found a ATF FFL newsletter dated 2005. This section applies to my question. >We frequently receive questions concerning the sale of modern in-line muzzle loading rifles. Several years ago ATF determined that an in-line muzzle loading rifle using #209 shotgun primers for ignition was not an antique firearm and was subject to all provisions of the Gun Control Act (GCA). However, the GCA was amended in 1998 and many in-line muzzle loading rifles are now antique firearms and are excluded from the provisions of the GCA.< It seems the rules were changed and I was unaware of the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: I doubt these will be worth thousands of dollars someday like original Howdah pistols. Still, they do look like fun. That’s what I said about the Automag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: That’s what I said about the Automag. Or the Wildey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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