Dutch Nichols, SASS #6461 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 There was a post on AR’s and Ol Lumpy Grits said no red dots if you have astigmatisms!? I did not want to hi jack that thread so am looking for an explanation as to why not? He said an acog with chevron was his go to. I have said issue and have red dots on my AR’s and steel guns. I am looking at An acog and want to know said advantages. So if anyone can contribute what their issues are I would surely appreciate it. With so many of us having vision issues thought this might interest others?! Hope everyone stays safe and secure and healthy thru these trying times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 The red Chevron looks like crescent moon to my eyes. The green Chevron is as sharp as can be. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Howdy Lumpy. I have red and green dot sight devices and my eyes favor the GREEN dot over the RED dot. My eyes greatly prefer GREEN dots. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I guess it depends on how bad your astigmatism is. I have a slight astigmatism in my right eye. But now that I think about it I need to keep the setting (brightness) low or the dot blurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I use a Aimpoint red dot, if I look at the dot it is a blurry blob, but if I keep both eyes open and focus on the target I see a nice round dot on the target. Don't look at the dot like you would the cross hair on a scope, focus only on the target, at least that's what works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Also has to do with eye dominance. I'm right handed, left eye dominant. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Also has to do with eye dominance. I'm right handed, left eye dominant. OLG That shouldn't matter with a good red dot. I can cover the end of my sight so I can't see thru it, with both eyes open I still see the red dot on the target. The brain picks up the red dot from my right eye, the target from my left and joins them together. read this, https://www.armsonusa.com/oegconcept.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Randall, SASS #45902 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 If you suffer from astigmatism as I do, I suggest checking into a prism sight. I run an Vortex Spitfire AR Prism Scope on my AR and love it. There are other manufacturers as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 said: That shouldn't matter with a good red dot. I can cover the end of my sight so I can't see thru it, with both eyes open I still see the red dot on the target. The brain picks up the red dot from my right eye, the target from my left and joins them together. read this, https://www.armsonusa.com/oegconcept.html Makes all the difference in the world when you have astigmatism That is one of the main reasons for development of the green reticle. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Chase Randall, SASS #45902 said: If you suffer from astigmatism as I do, I suggest checking into a prism sight. I run an Vortex Spitfire AR Prism Scope on my AR and love it. There are other manufacturers as well. I have a Vortex red/green. The green works best for me. The red I’d fine if I drop the brightness level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I am going to have to check out a green dot sight. Is the green dot sight easier to see in the daylight like a green laser vs a red laser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Church Key, SASS # 33713 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I much prefer a green dot. My Vortex Venom is red and somewhat blurry, even with corrected shooting glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 35 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: I am going to have to check out a green dot sight. Is the green dot sight easier to see in the daylight like a green laser vs a red laser? Mr Patriot, I can't speak for others, but my eyes pick up the green dots better in daytime and evenings. Red dots do seem to blur with me but the greens are seemingly more crisp in appearance. Mileage varies. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 found this while looking up a prism scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: I am going to have to check out a green dot sight. Is the green dot sight easier to see in the daylight like a green laser vs a red laser? For me it is. Even in desert background. Love my ACOG OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Church Key, SASS # 33713 said: I much prefer a green dot. My Vortex Venom is red and somewhat blurry, even with corrected shooting glasses. I sent my first Vortex red dot back as the dot was blurry. The called me and asked if I wore corrective lenses. When I said yes they told be that my glasses were causing the dot to appear blurry. When I got it back if I took my glasses off I got a nice dot. With my glasses on the dot was more of a sunburst. I need to get one in green and see how it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Randall, SASS #45902 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 With a standard red dot sight the light for the dot is reflected up to the lens and with astigmatism it will be distorted. With prism type sights, the dot is etched into the lens and illuminated like an illuminated recticle in a scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Rick Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 I pick up a green dot much better than red as well. Don't care for yellow at all, either. I have astigmatisms but I've never tried to to shoot for groups with a red dot so I've never noticed how perfect (or not) the illuminated dot is. Both eyes open, I want hits on a 9" plate at 50-75 yards. That's just me. If precision is needed, there are other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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