John Kloehr Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 First job, smoothing a trigger. Just need to polish it a bit. Looking to the future, I will be reloading and will do more of my own work as time goes on. So getting tools is a long-term investment for me. So, what are good stones that will not rapidly wear? Probably need to drive out and insert some roll pins. Which punches will not easily shatter or bend? And a hammer that won't have the nylon end fall off or have the whole head get loose on the handle? And dammit, I'm tired of "machinist" screwdrivers that are curved all the way to the tip. Who makes drivers which actually have parallel surfaces? And not priced like pure unobtanium, just really solid good tools that can last a couple decades. Are Walkers any good? No problem with a getting a good Mitutoyo caliper, if appropriate. Give me recommendations to fill my toolbox. Just bought a Lyman digital trigger pull gauge. Likes (hearts) given for every suggestion, trophies for the tools I actually buy. And anyone suggesting anything from Harbor Freight will probably get an LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Everything you need. https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/general-gunsmith-tools/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kloehr Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Goody, SASS #26190 said: Everything you need. https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/general-gunsmith-tools/index.htm 5 pages just of roll punches, from various manufacturers. Looking for more specific recommendations. Just specific tools that do not suck, or are made of pure unobtanium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Harbor Freight for wad punches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 39 minutes ago, John Kloehr said: 5 pages just of roll punches, from various manufacturers. Looking for more specific recommendations. Just specific tools that do not suck, or are made of pure unobtanium. Not knowing specifically what you want, except screwdrivers. Get the ones by Grace. None better for guns. And I would suggest a phone call to Brownells to tell them what you are looking to do. Very good folks to do business with. extremely knowledgeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kloehr Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: Harbor Freight for wad punches. Would not hold an edge on resharpening. I was punching leather and canvas. I'm not against Harbor Freight, I have a bunch of tools from them. They worked for what I bought them for when I bought them for a single job, and some even worked a second time. An example: I've bought their router bits when i needed 10' routed of a profile I'll probably never use again, but never got 400' out of one. Quality tools last longer, like 10 times longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Lots of folks use the Brownells Magnatip drivers. I don't personally, I have a few odd bits but kind of prefer separate screwdrivers (and I like the Grace set mentioned by Goody for SAA's). But if you go the driver / tip route, here is a list of useful tips I saved from John Boy a few years back: Ruger Single Action: 150-4 * 180-3 * 180-4 210-4 * Rossi 92: 150-4 * 180-3 * 180-5 210-4 * 270-4 300-5 340-5 * Duplicated in above two sets Colt/clone SAA set: 340-3 300-3 270-3 210-3 180-3 Marlin 336 set: 300-4 270-3 200-3 180-4 180-3 120-3 Tip sizes for '73 Winchester 180-4 210-3 240-3 240-4 330-3 Added: Magazine Plug 340-4 340-6 butt Plate Tip sizes for Marlin 94 180-4 210-4 270-4 270-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Yes, Brownells is the place To get your tools. Hammer? Get a relatively small mallet, yellow plastic one side, brass on the other. Also get a small 2-ounce ball-pein (machinist’s) hammer Bownells sells sets of punches; start off with the small ones. Screwdrivers? Get a decent set of gunsmith screwdrivers from Brownells I think it is too late to order the Brownell’s catalog. I am not sure when they print the new ones but I don’t think you can get the current catalog anymore. They do have all their catalog items online. TIP: Never throw away an old Brownells catalog. Cat Brules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazos John Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 On 5/31/2020 at 8:48 PM, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: Lots of folks use the Brownells Magnatip drivers. I don't personally, I have a few odd bits but kind of prefer separate screwdrivers (and I like the Grace set mentioned by Goody for SAA's). But if you go the driver / tip route, here is a list of useful tips I saved from John Boy a few years back: Ruger Single Action: 150-4 * 180-3 * 180-4 210-4 * Rossi 92: 150-4 * 180-3 * 180-5 210-4 * 270-4 300-5 340-5 * Duplicated in above two sets Colt/clone SAA set: 340-3 300-3 270-3 210-3 180-3 Marlin 336 set: 300-4 270-3 200-3 180-4 180-3 120-3 Tip sizes for '73 Winchester 180-4 210-3 240-3 240-4 330-3 Added: Magazine Plug 340-4 340-6 butt Plate Tip sizes for Marlin 94 180-4 210-4 270-4 270-5 Howdy, Abilene, and everyone else, Too hot to work outside (101 in Houston today), so I'm looking to do some gunsmithing. Might even clean them. I know the numbers for the tips refer to the thickness and width, but what exactly do they mean? Thanks, Brazos I think y'all were even hotter than we were today. But being in the Hill Country automatically makes things cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Brazos John said: Howdy, Abilene, and everyone else, I know the numbers for the tips refer to the thickness and width, but what exactly do they mean? Thanks, Brazos I think y'all were even hotter than we were today. But being in the Hill Country automatically makes things cooler. Howdy John, I will have to defer to "everyone else" to answer the question. Yes, it was a scorcher today but the Tejas Caballeros is on a hill and there is almost always a breeze, plus all stages today were in the shade. BTW, earlier I mentioned I like separate screwdrivers. I will say that the Brownells #5 is my favorite one for Colt-style guns, and is the only screwdriver in my small guncart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Brazos John said: I know the numbers for the tips refer to the thickness and width, but what exactly do they mean? Take a 240-1 bit. It's 240 thousandths inch wide. And the thickness numbers are about: 1 = 20 thou 2= 25 thou 3= 30 thou 4= 35 thou 5= 40 thou Don't have a 6 but I'd guess its 45 thou The English sets from Brownells run in the 1, 2 and 3 thicknesses. American guns more often use 3, 4 and 5 I find I need the english/euro bits as often as the American. Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Save the fuss and get the Brownells super set of screwdriver bits. You also want the large handle. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castalia,SASS#18915 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Don't forget a gunsmiths"best friend" the Dremel Tool. Castalia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Castalia,SASS#18915 said: Don't forget a gunsmiths"best friend" the Dremel Tool. Castalia My gunsmith said guys like me are why they need to require permits for Dremels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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