Brandon Mavericks Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Hey there everybody, I have these old guns and having a hard time putting dates & values to them. One on left is an old H&R top break 32 s&w and one on right is an old Thames Arms top break 38. Both are unbelievably clean. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Probably the best way to get the value of a gun these days is to go online to one of the gun action sites and see the prices there. http://www.gunbroker.com/ and http://www.gunsamerica.com/ are two of the bigger sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawhorse Kid Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 What is the serial number on the H&R? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Mavericks Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, Sawhorse Kid said: What is the serial number on the H&R? 464579 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Brandon Mavericks said: Hey there everybody, I have these old guns and having a hard time putting dates & values to them. One on left is an old H&R top break 32 s&w and one on right is an old Thames Arms top break 38. Both are unbelievably clean. Any ideas? I have an H&R similar to that one. Never heard of Thames Arms before, but I'd take either one of those (or both) if the price were right and we could work out the transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Get a copy of Blue Book. By using features and barrel markings on the H&R you can get an approximate date. Some models could be valuable depending on the barrel length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Mavericks Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: I have an H&R similar to that one. Never heard of Thames Arms before, but I'd take either one of those (or both) if the price were right and we could work out the transfers. Gonna hang on to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Brandon Mavericks said: Gonna hang on to them Don't blame you a bit. I have a whole Passel of little SA and DA pocket pistolettes from one shot to six. I'm not entirely sure why, they just fascinate me. Smallest caliber is .22 short and the largest is a Hammond Bulldog in .44 rim fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Mavericks Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 Just now, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: Don't blame you a bit. I have a whole Passel of little SA and DA pocket pistole from one shot to six. I'm not entirely sure why, they just fascinate me. Smallest caliber is .22 short and the largest is a Hammond Bulldog in .44 rim fire. I get it. I have a few Saturday Night Specials like Raven, Lorcin, etc... I find them cheap and that means I gotta have them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawhorse Kid Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 9 hours ago, Brandon Mavericks said: 464579 Gun appears to be made before 1940. Are there any markings on the barrel? H&R PREMER SECOND MODEL SMALL FRAME TOP BREAK R.F. & C.F. ----------1905-1941Small fame double action top break revolver with double top post barrel latch; calibers and cylinder capacity, 22 rimfire-7 rounds, 32 S&W, 5 rounds; automatic cylinder stop; standard finish Nickel with case harden hammer and barrel latch; standard barrel length 3 inches, with 2, 4, 5 and 6 inches available as optional; HAS CALIBER MARKINGS ON LEFT SIDE OF BARREL WAS MANUFACTURED FOR SMOKELESS POWDER CARTRIDGE PRESSURES.There has not been enough data gathered on serial number to try to come up with a serial number range for the different variations.First Variation, model name & caliber marked on left side of barrel, patent dates 5-14-89, 4-2-95, 4-7-96---------------1905-OnlySecond Variation, model name & caliber marked on left side of barrel, patent dates 4-2-95, 4-7-96-------------------1906-1908Third Variation, caliber only marked on left side of barrel, patent date 10-8-95-------1909-1913Fourth Variation, caliber only marked on left side of barrel, no patent date, state not spelled out in address (MASS)---------1914-1915Fifth Variation, caliber only marked on left side of barrel same as 4th except different font used in barrel markings----------1914-1915Sixth Variation, caliber only marked on left side of barrel. State name in barrel marking spelled out (MASSACHUSETTS)-----1916-1924Seventh Variation, new grip frame, there is no step down for the grip panels to fit into-----1925-1942After 1930 listed in catalogs as; PREMIER No. 30 .22 Rimfire 7 shot & PREMIER No. 35.32 S&W 5 shotVALUE: 100%=$265 60%=$75 Add 10% premium for blue finish; 20% premium 4”, 5” or 6” barrel; 20% premium for 22 rimfire caliber; 10% premium for 7th variation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Mavericks Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 Third variation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 11 hours ago, Brandon Mavericks said: I get it. I have a few Saturday Night Specials like Raven, Lorcin, etc... I find them cheap and that means I gotta have them! 11 hours ago, Brandon Mavericks said: I get it. I have a few Saturday Night Specials like Raven, Lorcin, etc... I find them cheap and that means I gotta have them! None of mine are post 1900 styles, and some don't have ammo available....mostly rim fires... and one or two aren't in shooting shape but they still look good on the wall. There are 16 on the walls now and another 7 or 8 wiating for me to get them framed and hung. I also have several later vintage semi-autos and some bigger revolvers in the same category........waiting....waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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