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No more honest people

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I was standing in line with my cart and my Lady friend was checking out in front of me. The cashier asked her for a rewards card, and she said what is that? (Ollie's Army Discount Store in Evansville, IN). The cashier stated you can get a discount with it. I spoke up and stated I have one and I have two discount coupons in my email on my phone. I opened my wallet and dug out the little key chain card and gave it to her.  My friend paid for her stuff and the cashier rang up my stuff, scanned my card and coupon and told me $50. I started to pay and realized the $180.00 I had put in my wallet at my friend house (she paid me back for money I had lent her) was gone. I looked at the ground by my feet and the piece of paper that had been in my wallet with the money was laying by my foot and the money was gone. I asked the cashier, and announced that I was missing my money and it was with the paper that was by my foot. Everybody just looked away and basically ignored me. I payed for my stuff, stepped back and looked all around again, and it was no where to be found. Since the paper that was with the money was laying on the ground by my foot and I had not opened my wallet except to pay at that store I am certain that is where I dropped it. I walked outside and ask my friend if she saw it, and she said not and to looked by the register again. I walked back in the the couple that was behind me was getting their change from their purchase and they were getting change from a wad of $20 bills. (I dropped 9 $20's folded in half) and she was stuffing in her purse when she saw me come back in the store. 

My bet is when I dropped it, one of them stepped on it and while I was looking for it, they ignored me and waited until nobody was watching and picked it up.

 

I don't know what is worse, losing the money or knowing that they watched me drop it and then took it and kept it while I was asking about it and them not saying anything.:angry:

 

I have seen people drop stuff in from of me and I have told them or picked it up and gave it to them. The last time I was walking into a convenience store and small kid ran out with a soda. I looked down and there was a dollar on the ground and one inside the store and looking outside the was another one outside the door. The kid (6-7 years old maybe) was getting into a beat up car and a lady was inside it by the gas pump. I walked over to the car and knocked on the window. She gave a funny look and the the kid opened the door and I asked him if he lost something  and he just looked at me. The lady stated she wonder what happen to the change from her money and was glad to get it. I would bet she did not send him in to buy stuff again until he got older.

 

I don't know, maybe I expected too much from people. Seems like the world is going to H@#L in a handbag and it is just getting worse. The attitude of a lot of people seems to be "Hooray for me, (^*(&!) you."   I guess being laid off since Mid-March and knowing that I was was to be terminated at the end of May is getting to me.  Only good news this past week was my termination date was moved to the end of June and I have employee benefits until then.

 

Maybe I am a bit irritated.  The good part of today was I found an open Barber shop and got a haircut. Only had to drive 70 miles to get to it.

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Honor

Trust

Loyalty

Respect 

They are all commodities that are very lacking in today’s society. 
 

Look up “word that means good citizen” on Google. The first word that comes up is “jingoist”. Look up jingoist. It will tell you volumes how one of the largest search engines in the world sees what a “good citizen” is. And people everyday use that system in many things they do. 
 

I have no words that will fix your attitude or get your money back. 
The only advice I have is to pay closer attention to your money and your wallet. 
Learn from this experience and move forward. Don’t dwell on it. It’ll sour you. 

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Yep a sad fact that a lot of people out there are just plain rotten !

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Sorry to hear about your job, wish you the best of luck in the future.

 

Dishonesty seems to be the accepted norm today, with elected officials setting the bad example just about daily.  Similar event happened to my wife recently, turned out it was an employee who saw her drop the money and then quickly scooped it up when she exited the store.  

 

I'm also getting a haircut this Friday, YeeHaw!

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My wife left her wallet on the newspaper box at the train station in our then very small own.  $400 was in it along with driver license etc.  It disappeared, no trace.  Restitution will be made.  Our Lord is watching and nothing gets by Him.  I hope the person who did this will give back the money, not to me as I no longer live there, but perhaps to a charity and he/she repents from being a thief and asks for forgiveness. 

 

I have forgiven this person...they might have actually needed it...they can have it.  I do not want anyone written out of the Book of Life over money.

 

STL  Suomi

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You have been given a sign that you need a wallet that retains money more securely.

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The very first point of the Scout Law is "trustworthy."  Yet scouting is suffering in membership numbers.  This is more of a reflection of society's values today than anything.

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OP, that's just plain sad & unbelievable. Some people just plain suck.

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..... and if you think things are sucky today, just wait until tomorrow.

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2 minutes ago, Fence Cutter said:

..... and if you think things are sucky today, just wait until tomorrow.

 

Exactly. Going downhill fast.

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Maddog,

Dishonesty, just like Murder, etc..... have always been part of society.  Even children steal from parents, brothers steal from brothers, etc........

 

I hate to hear about your misfortune.   Someones "ill gotten gains" will be accounted for at some point in their life.

And probably at some point in your life, your lose will be rectified back to you.

 

..........Widder

 

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8 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

Honor

Trust

Loyalty

Respect 

They are all commodities that are very lacking in today’s society. 
 

Look up “word that means good citizen” on Google. The first word that comes up is “jingoist”. Look up jingoist. It will tell you volumes how one of the largest search engines in the world sees what a “good citizen” is. And people everyday use that system in many things they do. 
 

I have no words that will fix your attitude or get your money back. 
The only advice I have is to pay closer attention to your money and your wallet. 
Learn from this experience and move forward. Don’t dwell on it. It’ll sour you. 

Add integrity to that list.

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3 hours ago, St. Louis Suomi SASS #31905 said:

My wife left her wallet on the newspaper box at the train station in our then very small own.  $400 was in it along with driver license etc.  It disappeared, no trace.  Restitution will be made.  Our Lord is watching and nothing gets by Him.  I hope the person who did this will give back the money, not to me as I no longer live there, but perhaps to a charity and he/she repents from being a thief and asks for forgiveness. 

 

I have forgiven this person...they might have actually needed it...they can have it.  I do not want anyone written out of the Book of Life over money.

 

STL  Suomi

Same thing happened to my wife , you’d think after they stole the money the least they could do would be to turn the wallet in . But I guess that’s not the least they can do 

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Lucky for the people behind you that they were able to cover the wad of bills with their foot ... and avoid the paper that fell out (along with the bills) w/o looking suspicious or anyone else noticing.  You should have scolded them for not "social distancing"!! ^_^

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21 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

Add integrity to that list.

Yep, overlooked that one. 

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While putting my money clip back in my pocket at a casino a C note fell on the floor as I was walking. A guy walking by David, “Het buddy, you dropped some cash”. I turned around and picked it up. My wife smacked me. I turned to thank the guy but he was gone. 
If I thought there were no decent people left in the world, I’d eat my barrel.

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Society?  We're just a bunch of people stuck living in the same place.  People are pretty well behaved as long as they fear getting caught.  As soon as they figure they can get away with something, they go for it.

It is all because they're pretty sure you won't kill them.

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Recently I went to Home Depot to buy some tarps.  I bought 4 paid and walked back to my car. Tossing them in two were stuck together, plastic wrap, and I now had 5. I grabbed the extra and walked back to the cashier. Told her the deal. She looked at me like I was some sort of idiot!

Ike

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My dad used to play poker with his cronies, and he always won more than he lost. When he died thirty some years ago, I opened the big floor safe and found an envelope labeled "Poker money". I opened it, expecting to find two or three hundred dollars or so, and counted out 127 hundred dollar bills. :blink: I took it in and handed it to my mother, who handed the entire $12,700 it to my sister and said, "Here, this is for you". :blink: :blink:

 

Doing the right thing has cost me a lot in my life. :mellow:

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Should have asked for a review of the security camera footage. 

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4 hours ago, J-BAR #18287 said:

You have been given a sign that you need a wallet that retains money more securely.

Normally I would have put the money in my front shirt pocket (shirt  did not have one)as I don't usually carry much cash and I was planning to deposit it back in the bank.   Since this is the second time I lost something out of that wallet, (debit card fell out will I was making a purchase a while back, but I noticed and found it right away) I am in the market for a better more secure wallet.

 

 

11 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

The only advice I have is to pay closer attention to your money and your wallet. 
Learn from this experience and move forward. Don’t dwell on it. It’ll sour you. 

If I had been alone, I would have been paying more attention, but we were have a relaxing time as we had not seen each other in a month. I feel that I noticed something was missing and it took a second to register but it is amazing how fast something can disappear. When got home I went thru my truck and double checked everywhere and I was also missing the business card from the barber that was with the money.  I can always get more money, I just think the lack of honesty and helping others when you see something happen it is the part that bothers me. I never did like a thief.

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2 hours ago, Joke 'um said:

Society?  We're just a bunch of people stuck living in the same place.  People are pretty well behaved as long as they fear getting caught.  As soon as they figure they can get away with something, they go for it.

It is all because they're pretty sure you won't kill them.

 

I wanted to pistol whip them and find my money, but I would have been in more trouble for getting it back that way than they would have been for taking the money. I have walked away many times instead of doing what I wanted. Those are the times the end result would have just made things worse for me and cost me much more in the long run.

 

1 hour ago, irish ike, SASS #43615 said:

Recently I went to Home Depot to buy some tarps.  I bought 4 paid and walked back to my car. Tossing them in two were stuck together, plastic wrap, and I now had 5. I grabbed the extra and walked back to the cashier. Told her the deal. She looked at me like I was some sort of idiot!

Ike

 I walked out of Walmart and they were collecting carts at the door to clean them and I grabbed the bag in the top of the cart and started to walk away. The 2 kids stopped me and said I forgot the item in the bottom for the cart.  I looked at them and realized that I had forgot it and i had forgot to pay for it at the self check. I looked at them and stated I also forgot to pay for it and would they put it back for me. They looked at me as if I was crazy. I don't think they knew how to react as they probability watch people take stuff and not pay for all the time and they think it is a normal behavior.

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18 minutes ago, Maddog McCoy SASS #5672 said:

I never did like a thief.

I despise thieves. I do feel sorry for the person I actually catch stealing from me. They will get the brunt of everything I have ever had stolen, I’m afraid.

 

Actually, No, I will not feel sorry for them. 

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14 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

Honor

Trust

Loyalty

Respect 

They are all commodities that are very lacking in today’s society. 
 

Look up “word that means good citizen” on Google. The first word that comes up is “jingoist”. Look up jingoist. It will tell you volumes how one of the largest search engines in the world sees what a “good citizen” is. And people everyday use that system in many things they do. 
 

I have no words that will fix your attitude or get your money back. 
The only advice I have is to pay closer attention to your money and your wallet. 
Learn from this experience and move forward. Don’t dwell on it. It’ll sour you. 

 

Pat:

 

You need a new search engine....

 

I use Duck Duck Go, and the first article associated with the search that you suggested includes the following:

 

The personal qualities of a good citizen include the following:

  • Honesty – tell the truth.
  • Integrity – be morally upright.
  • Responsibility – be accountable for yourself and your actions.
  • Respectfulness – treat others how you want to be treated.
  • Compassion – show fellowship with your compatriots who are down on their luck by volunteering and/or making donations to charities.
  • Kindness – be friendly.
  • Tolerance – be tolerant of other races and religions.
  • Courtesy – be considerate of others.
  • Self-Discipline – have self-control and cultivate the ability to follow through on what you say you’re going to do.
  • Moral Courage – stand up for what you consider to be wrong and defend those who cannot defend themselves.
  • Love of Justice – be fair and ask that others be so as well.

Sometimes you need to reflect on the sources of your information.

 

LL

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I'm sure you know, there have always been liars, thieves, crooks, and worse.  As much as is possible, don't loose faith that the large majority of folks are good, honest, decent people. 

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I’ve always found the 90/10 rule to be pretty close . 90% of the people are actually pretty good decent people and 10% are $hit heads . It’s just the 10% can cause allot of problems. In fact it seems to be their full time job .

There are allot of good people out there helping other people it just goes unnoticed and unappreciated for the most part.

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The night before our flight to London (to see daughter and SIL) the wife was in Wal-Mart doing last minute shopping.  She called me crying.  All I could understand was something about the car and her purse.  I thought she had locked herself out of the car.  I got the spare key and was putting on my boots when she pulled into the garage.  She came into the kitchen still crying and said she had to go back to Wal-Mart.  And off she went!

 

Later I learned she was crying because she had left her purse in the cart when she put the cart into the parking lot cart corral.  In her purse was her driver's license, credit cards and cash.  Without her Driver's license she thought she wouldn't be able to board the flight, miss seeing our daughter who we haven't see in 2 years.

 

When she returned to Wal-Mart she learned that the Wal-Mart employee that gathers the parking lot carts and returns them to the store had found her purse and gave it to the manager.   Nothing was missing from her purse.  

 

Her passport (which she could use to board the airplanes) I had locked up in the gun safe.  :D

 

 

On the flip side I had a co-worker that would steal a dollar if given the chance.

 

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6 hours ago, Three Foot Johnson said:

Doing the right thing has cost me a lot in my life. :mellow:

I'm certainly not going to argue the point on THAT! 

We lost my Dad in '94, literally 5 months after my first wife. Some years later, the Alzheimer's started taking my Mom. Neither my ex-sister, (you'll see why I say that momentarily), or I had the money to properly have her cared for, and since she still had the house we grew up in, she couldn't get Medicaid. My concern was for my Mom's wellbeing, so I allowed the house to be quit claimed to my sister, since she was still in Ohio where Mom was, and I was in Arizona. 

The plan was for my ex-sister and her husband to take out a home equity loan, fix the place up, sell it and we'd split it as my parents Will had stated. 

Well, they took out the loan, then another, then, unbeknownst to me, refinanced, ad nauseum. This all started in '98, and in '08, just before the housing bubble burst, I asked her when she was going to sell, and was told, "Oh, Rick doesn't want to move until he retires." Well I blew up, hung up, and haven't spoken to her since. 

Here's the part that closes the whole thing; about 3 years ago, she LOST the house to the bank, having refied it until she couldn't afford the payments. 

They now live in a small apartment in a large complex, and he's still working. And so am I.

1 hour ago, Buckshot Bob said:

I’ve always found the 90/10 rule to be pretty close . 90% of the people are actually pretty good decent people and 10% are $hit heads . It’s just the 10% can cause allot of problems. In fact it seems to be their full time job .

There are allot of good people out there helping other people it just goes unnoticed and unappreciated for the most part.

That's kind of like the old Marine Corps saying, "If you get 10 Attaboys and one Awcrap, the net result is one Awcrap. 

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3 hours ago, Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 said:

Pat:

 

You need a new search engine....

 

I use Duck Duck Go,

So do I.

 

It has rearranged slightly since this morning. This is now the second hit if you search for what Pat said - word that means good citizen. This morning it was first.

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Posted (edited)

I am glad this is a nice place to put things in perspective.

 

I was mad, part at me for dropping the money, more at who took it and did not say anything and the world in general.:angry:

 

Today, I found out according to the Governor of Illinois, I broke the law by going to Indiana to get a haircut and he is having anybody traveling in and out of Illinois arrested and vehicles towed by the State Police. I have heard he sent his stay at home order (he stated  his order is the same as law) to the state Legislature to have it made into  law, but his family has been running to Florida and Wisconsin on a regular basis and he forgets to mention that on the news.:wacko:

 

I guess my punishment for becoming a criminal  yesterday was losing the money and I should be glad I am not in jail for getting a haircut and sneaking into Indiana.:o

 

I wonder what laws I broke today. I went to the weld shop to pay for a tractor rim I had fixed, got a carry out sandwich from Subway and picked up an order at Menards in a town 30 miles away.  I guess I will have to stay home tomorrow as I might break another law, however I don't think I am too worried about it.:D:P:rolleyes:

 

I will post the laws that I break tomorrow, since I have to go to town once or twice. My dad wants me to get gas for his mower and I need gravel to fill the mud hole in the driveway from the rain.

 

Being a criminal puts a whole new perspective on things.;)

 

https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-small-business-owners-face-imprisonment-2500-fine-for-reopening-under-pritzkers-order/

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-illinois-pritzker-order-20200518-igdhoofobraevmmrquoqfjbw4a-story.html

 

Edited by Maddog McCoy SASS #5672
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14 hours ago, Cyrus Cassidy #45437 said:

Yet scouting is suffering in membership numbers.

I think all the abuse allegations have something to to with it.  Sad.

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8 hours ago, MizPete said:

I think all the abuse allegations have something to to with it.  Sad.

 

All of the abuse accusations stem from the 1960s and a few shortly thereafter.  In fact, BSA instituted "youth protection" policies several decades ago, and of all the youth programs in the US, they remain the strongest to protect children from abusers.  "No one-on-one contact," "two-deep leadership," etc.  

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On 5/19/2020 at 3:37 PM, Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 said:

I'm sure you know, there have always been liars, thieves, crooks, and worse.  As much as is possible, don't loose faith that the large majority of folks are good, honest, decent people. 

I'm with you. You just don't hear about the honest ones near as much.

JHC

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Maddog, I didn't know you shopped at the same store as Pelosi and Schumer.

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