Fireball #7709 Life Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Anyone have one in their gun that they use regularly? I'm interested in actual shooter feedback. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolvgang Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 None? Too bad I would have been interested too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oklahoma Dee Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Might contact Snake Oil George. He had some from Shotgun Boogie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkeep Casey Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Purly also shoots one, and swears by his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 What is the benefit of a titanium carrier, in real terms, other than reducing the overall weight of the gun? Cat Brules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball #7709 Life Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 48 minutes ago, Oklahoma Dee said: Might contact Snake Oil George. He had some from Shotgun Boogie. Had some, does that mean he's selling them or is using them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kajun Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 37 minutes ago, Barkeep Casey said: Purly also shoots one, and swears by his. Purly swears at a lot of things! Kajun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball #7709 Life Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 22 minutes ago, Cat Brules said: What is the benefit of a titanium carrier, in real terms, other than reducing the overall weight of the gun? Cat Brules Well Cat, that's why I posted asking for real use feedback... I suspect, Ti being harder, it should wear less, probably be the last carrier you'd ever buy. They are reported to be around or slightly lighter than a lightened brass carrier. Probably the coolest, most useless part, it should have a distinctive ring, like brass, but probably higher?LOL Oh, and they can be colored cool too. I was hoping someone who's used them would chime in about how carbon and BP fouling stick to them. Maybe them what have them, are too shy to admit they spent that much for a carrier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkeep Casey Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Krazy Kajun said: Purly swears at a lot of things! Kajun Most of the time at me! But not his rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil dogooder Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I don't have a shotgun boogie one but I do run a titanium carrier in one rifle. They run nice, buildup is less. It will ruin your frame before it wears out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball #7709 Life Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just now, evil dogooder said: I don't have a shotgun boogie one but I do run a titanium carrier in one rifle. They run nice, buildup is less. It will ruin your frame before it wears out Where did you get yours? Pic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purly SASS # 57438 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I have one in both my rifles. I have a drawer full of brass and aluminum carriers that gave me problems. One I have run for 2 years the other one 1 year. If I was buying another carrier it would be another titanium one. Not sure it will help with build up/fouling. That's probably more in your ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil dogooder Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Fireball #7709 Life said: Where did you get yours? Pic? I made it. I work at a CNC shop. I'll take a pic when I get home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Slim SASS #24733 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Purly: what did they do better than the brass ones? I can see if some of the angles are wrong and mess up your ejection, or are too tight and fouling makes them stick, but not sure how the change in material would make much difference except be lighter. Personally, I would rather the carrier wear out before my receiver, much cheaper to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil dogooder Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Fireball #7709 Life said: Where did you get yours? Pic? Brass, alloy, hardcoated aluminum and titanium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball #7709 Life Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, evil dogooder said: Brass, alloy, hardcoated aluminum and titanium Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purly SASS # 57438 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 58 minutes ago, Springfield Slim SASS #24733 said: Purly: what did they do better than the brass ones? I can see if some of the angles are wrong and mess up your ejection, or are too tight and fouling makes them stick, but not sure how the change in material would make much difference except be lighter. Personally, I would rather the carrier wear out before my receiver, much cheaper to replace. I was replacing a carrier about every 6 months. I went to the titanium carriers and haven't replaced a carrier in 2 + years. I can't tell any difference in the weight. If you shoot a lot and are replacing carriers I would spend the money and get titanium. Mine don't show any wear. Fouling, I clean my guns every time after I shoot it. Clean runs better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Fireball #7709 Life said: Well Cat, that's why I posted asking for real use feedback... I suspect, Ti being harder, it should wear less, probably be the last carrier you'd ever buy. They are reported to be around or slightly lighter than a lightened brass carrier. Probably the coolest, most useless part, it should have a distinctive ring, like brass, but probably higher?LOL Oh, and they can be colored cool too. I was hoping someone who's used them would chime in about how carbon and BP fouling stick to them. Maybe them what have them, are too shy to admit they spent that much for a carrier? Do people have problems with the aluminum ones wearing out ? I haven’t seen any weight comparisons between aluminum and ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 hours ago, evil dogooder said: I don't have a shotgun boogie one but I do run a titanium carrier in one rifle. They run nice, buildup is less. It will ruin your frame before it wears out How will a titanium carrier ruin your rifle frame/receiver? I still have the original brass carrier in my Win’73 clone and I’ve never had a failure of any kind with my rifle. In what manner did your original brass carrier fail, which I assume was the reason to switch to an aluminum carrier? Why then, switch to aluminum from brass, then to titanium? ..... So, in what way does a carrier fail? EDIT: These topics usually leave me with a lot of questions, which of course, is frustrating. Cat Brules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Brass, aluminum, titanium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball #7709 Life Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said: I haven’t seen any weight comparisons between aluminum and ti For comparison, a 1" round bar, 1" long. Brass= .2417 lbs aluminum= .0792 lb Ti=.1279 lb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball #7709 Life Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Cat Brules said: ..... So, in what way does a carrier fail? Cat Brules I'm not sure fail is the right word. Most carriers will probably work forever in the role the gun was originally intended for. Start trying to run hundreds/thousands of rounds through them sub 4 sec for 10 and things need to be pretty right and tight. Brass and aluminum peen where the rims hit, the track the lifter arm runs in will both wear and peen, the outside dimension of the carrier wear and will eventually allow it to rock front to back, the ramp get's chewed up....all things that, for a rifle that was used for hunting say, would never be noticed. these are all things that will eventually slow you down at best, or tie up the gun and make it inoperable at worst in a match setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil dogooder Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Cat Brules said: How will a titanium carrier ruin your rifle frame/receiver? I still have the original brass carrier in my Win’73 clone and I’ve never had a failure of any kind with my rifle. In what manner did your original brass carrier fail, which I assume was the reason to switch to an aluminum carrier? Why then, switch to aluminum from brass, then to titanium? ..... So, in what way does a carrier fail? EDIT: These topics usually leave me with a lot of questions, which of course, is frustrating. Cat Brules My first 73 I bought was used pretty hard, it had a wore out jb welded aluminum one in it. Never shot a rifle with a stock brass one in it. As for the titanium. I measured the frame dimensions when I installed it. After roughly 120k cycles it has opened up a little. While the carrier hasn't changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc X Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, evil dogooder said: My first 73 I bought was used pretty hard, it had a wore out jb welded aluminum one in it. Never shot a rifle with a stock brass one in it. As for the titanium. I measured the frame dimensions when I installed it. After roughly 120k cycles it has opened up a little. While the carrier hasn't changed What alloy of Ti did you make yours from ED? We used mostly Ti4Al in orthopedics, fairly high aluminum content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil dogooder Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Places that fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil dogooder Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Trying to run sub 2 seconds with thousands of cycles is hard on parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faygo Kid, SASS # 26408 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Great pics E.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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