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Battle of San Jacinto

 

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On April 21, 1836, during Texas’ war for independence from Mexico, the Texas militia under Sam Houston (1793-1863) launched a surprise attack against the forces of Mexican General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna (1794-1876) at the Battle of San Jacinto, near present-day Houston, Texas. The Mexicans were thoroughly routed, and hundreds were taken prisoner, including Santa Anna. In exchange for his freedom, Santa Anna signed a treaty recognizing Texas’ independence.

 

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A truly fantastic Texas State Park and memorial. A must-see when in the area.

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1 hour ago, Sedalia Dave said:

Battle of San Jacinto

 

Question from a Canuck:  How do you pronounce Jacinto?  Is it phonetically pronounced Jack-in-to or does it have a Spanish pronunciation?  Just curious.

 

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10 minutes ago, Buffalo Creek Law Dog said:

Question from a Canuck:  How do you pronounce Jacinto?  Is it phonetically pronounced Jack-in-to or does it have a Spanish pronunciation?  Just curious

 

In Texas it is pronounced juh-SIN-to. Below is a good explanation of why.

 

Rules of pronunciation tend to mean less when Proper Nouns come into play. Largely, it's a matter of tradition. "Jacinto", as a Spanish word, means "hyacinth". If you were speaking about the flower, you would pronounce it [ha-SEEN-to]. However, in the context of "San Jacinto", the pronunciation becomes [juh-SIN-to].

 

Why? Because that was how the original settlers of that city pronounced it. The name became canonized, and remains in that (technically incorrect) pronunciation as a matter of tradition. That pronunciation became associated with that location, changing it could lead to confusion.

 

When it comes to names, you simply can't count on consistency of pronunciation. Why should Des Moines, IA, be pronounced [deh moyn], but Des Plaines, IL, is instead [des playnz]? Exact same situation.

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6 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said:

 

In Texas it is pronounced juh-SIN-to. Below is a good explanation of why.

 

Rules of pronunciation tend to mean less when Proper Nouns come into play. Largely, it's a matter of tradition. "Jacinto", as a Spanish word, means "hyacinth". If you were speaking about the flower, you would pronounce it [ha-SEEN-to]. However, in the context of "San Jacinto", the pronunciation becomes [juh-SIN-to].

 

Why? Because that was how the original settlers of that city pronounced it. The name became canonized, and remains in that (technically incorrect) pronunciation as a matter of tradition. That pronunciation became associated with that location, changing it could lead to confusion.

 

When it comes to names, you simply can't count on consistency of pronunciation. Why should Des Moines, IA, be pronounced [deh moyn], but Des Plaines, IL, is instead [des playnz]? Exact same situation.

 

Thank you for your clarification Dave.

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7 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said:

 

In Texas it is pronounced juh-SIN-to. Below is a good explanation of why.

 

Rules of pronunciation tend to mean less when Proper Nouns come into play. Largely, it's a matter of tradition. "Jacinto", as a Spanish word, means "hyacinth". If you were speaking about the flower, you would pronounce it [ha-SEEN-to]. However, in the context of "San Jacinto", the pronunciation becomes [juh-SIN-to].

 

Why? Because that was how the original settlers of that city pronounced it. The name became canonized, and remains in that (technically incorrect) pronunciation as a matter of tradition. That pronunciation became associated with that location, changing it could lead to confusion.

 

When it comes to names, you simply can't count on consistency of pronunciation. Why should Des Moines, IA, be pronounced [deh moyn], but Des Plaines, IL, is instead [des playnz]? Exact same situation.

 

Remind me tell you about some names of places in Ohio sometime.

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When my dad first took us to California way back in the 1950's, we were driving across the Mojave Desert.   We pulled into a gas station and Dad told the attendant, "Wow!  This Ma-jaw-vee desert sure is hot!"

The attendant laughed and told Dad, "Sir, out here in California we pronounce our J's like H's.  It's pronounced, Ma-haw-vee."

The attendant saw Dad's Oklahoma license plate and ask, "Are you moving out here?"

Dad being a quick learner answered, "No.  We'll be going back in either Hune or Huly."

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We have a sports announcer on one of the Calgary TV stations who likes to pronounce San Jose phonetically as in, The Flames are playing the San Joysy Sharks tonight.  He does it because he thinks it's funny.

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It is pronounced, “ha-SEEN-toe”..........   “SAHN  ha-SEEN-toe. (San Jacinto).

 

“Santa Ana” remained a prisoner.  He surrendered his forces rather than be executed (killed).

 

Santa Ana went on to live in New York, where his secretary, Thomas Adams, noticed him chewing some sort of bark......chicle bark..  Adams played around with the bark and invented chewing gum.  Thanks, Santa Ana, but neither you or the chewing gum was worth the lives of over 200 men at the Alamo. 

 

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