bgavin Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Hypothetical question: any thoughts on a lever action Marlin 1895 or Henry in .410 gauge for a buckaroo? I know these are a bit heavy at 7+ pounds. Our grandson buckaroo is only 3 at the moment, but he gonna be a strapping kid in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Hangtree Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Take a look at the Yildiz .410 double at Academy https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/yildiz-410-side-by-side-break-open-shotgun These are very good shotguns for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_of_Hearts Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 2 hours ago, bgavin said: Hypothetical question: any thoughts on a lever action Marlin 1895 or Henry in .410 gauge for a buckaroo? I know these are a bit heavy at 7+ pounds. Our grandson buckaroo is only 3 at the moment, but he gonna be a strapping kid in a few years. I think you will find the Henry Shotgun is tube fed. Loading singly through the ejection port with a 410 might be more of a mountain than a molehill. And at 900+ dollar, not the least expensive option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Marshal Hangtree said: Take a look at the Yildiz .410 double at Academy https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/yildiz-410-side-by-side-break-open-shotgun These are very good shotguns for the money. I heard that about the Stoegers also, and got badly burned. No more cheap SxS for me. Ace: I was wondering about loading singles... thanks for the tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Hangtree Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Suit yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 The review I just saw talked about the Henry having a loading gate. I still can't imagine it being good in our game. I might get me one of those Yildiz doubles for myowndangself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boulder Canyon Bob# 32052L Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Henry has a loading gate 410 lever as well as this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Marshal Hangtree said: Suit yourself. I don't intend to sound disingenuous... sorry if it came across that way. But I've got more than a gut full of cheap guns and their problems. I bought the Stoeger in June of 2019, and have not had a shotgun since then due to CA waiting periods, lost shipments, broken barrel lug, and delays for a refund. Tomorrow at 10am, I can finally pick up the Charles Daly 500 I bought from Deuce. 9 months delay. I really like the Henry side + tube loader, but synthetic stocks are a deal breaker. The brass model is very appealing to me. Digging in a bit deeper, I can see feeding a 410 is a pricey affair for ammo, or another MEC to reload. Thanks to all for the education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Get a H&R Topper or a NEF Pardner in .410. Ejectors are legal on single shots and they are reliable as a Ruger. I sent you a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 H&R and NEF are both (now) Remlins, made in New York. I'm wondering if the older guns (pre-Marlin, pre-Remington) are of better quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 I guess you have checked GunBroker already...... Cat Brules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 hours ago, bgavin said: H&R and NEF are both (now) Remlins, made in New York. I'm wondering if the older guns (pre-Marlin, pre-Remington) are of better quality. Decode the serial numbers and figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 I'd start almost any youngster with a 12 gauge and light 3/4 ounce loads. Buying .410 shells just for cowboy shooting is a high dollar choice. Cut the stock (and barrel) short enough that they can hold up the gun properly, put on a nice recoil pad. Most all of them will learn very quickly how to shoot a shotgun well. Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 That is pretty much my same conclusion. 410 is expensive feed no matter how it is produced, and I don't need any safe queens at my age. Today, I get the Charles Daly I bought from Deuce. I already have 3/4 oz STS loads figured out for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadwood Miner, SASS # 45575 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: I'd start almost any youngster with a 12 gauge and light 3/4 ounce loads. Buying .410 shells just for cowboy shooting is a high dollar choice. Cut the stock (and barrel) short enough that they can hold up the gun properly, put on a nice recoil pad. Most all of them will learn very quickly how to shoot a shotgun well. Good luck, GJ +100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 10 hours ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: I'd start almost any youngster with a 12 gauge and light 3/4 ounce loads. Buying .410 shells just for cowboy shooting is a high dollar choice. Cut the stock (and barrel) short enough that they can hold up the gun properly, put on a nice recoil pad. Most all of them will learn very quickly how to shoot a shotgun well. Good luck, GJ That's all very true. And there isn't really that much recoil difference between a light loaded 12 ga and a factory load 410. I started very young (and small) on a .410 single shot, as a kid. I recall first shooting my dad's 12 ga sxs and remarking that it didn't kick near as hard. Very young kids can shoot a 12 ga with appropriate loads. My tiny wife shoots 3/4 Oz over 12 gn of Extralite, with a 175 (pink) Claybuster wad in STS hulls. It's adequate to KD targets, and bust clay birds--recoil no problem for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 See if you can find a couple of old Savage Four Tenners and insert them into your 12 gauge SxS. Probably cost less than getting a new .410 shotgun. For shells, make shotshells out of .444 Marlin brass, or even .45 Colt for low power ones. Get the shot capsules to keep it simple. It works very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 Four Tenners... that is preventive inventive... I will look into it. I finally got my Charles Daly from Deuce... it is FAR nicer than the photos showed. I'm stoked! I'm looking forward to some 3/4 oz loads... but all the ranges are closed so I would have to drive to Timbuktu to find a place to shoot it. DDD: does that ExtraLite 3/4 oz load burn dirty? Pressure is pretty low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_of_Hearts Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Ranges are on the ESSENTIAL BUSINESS list now and should be opening soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken George* Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 We've found the same thing. I have a smaller shotgun that I cut the stock way down on, but my 8 year old daughter prefers, and is faster, with a not cut, full size double. She likes the 3/4 oz loads we all shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Very impressive. I like how she tucks the shotgun under her arm. I know I used to aim my toy guns that way when I was a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 Outstanding! A great young lady on her way to being an upstanding adult. Kudos, Dad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 There are a couple of Buckaroo shooters in my area who are shooting .410 doubles. The hulls don’t shuck very readily. Factory .410 shotshells have a surprising bark and a hefty price tag. I’ve seen handloads made from .444 Marlin cases that seem a little milder. If I were outfitting a Buckaroo who is too small to handle a light loaded 12 gauge double I would try a single shot with a shortened stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Single barrel .410 with ejectors. . 444 Marlin with light loads and wads/cards from Ballistic Products. No loader required. Load by hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Junky Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 A 12 ga is no heavier really and then you don't have to buy another shotgun later. Cut the stock down and keep the wood. Then get a used MEC jr and you can load 12 ga down to very usable levels. Then when they get older add the wood back and cover it with leather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Quote Ranges are on the ESSENTIAL BUSINESS list now and should be opening soon. I wish that were true in NM. But it ain't yet! GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 On 3/29/2020 at 5:33 PM, Ace_of_Hearts said: I think you will find the Henry Shotgun is tube fed. Loading singly through the ejection port with a 410 might be more of a mountain than a molehill. And at 900+ dollar, not the least expensive option. Not true . I have the New Henry side gate 410 and it's a Beautiful Shotgun Rifle in 410 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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