Three Foot Johnson Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 I saw a decent shooter-grade Marlin '94 on Gunbroker with a starting bid of $525, and no one else bid on it, so now I have a .25-20 on the way. I've never shot one, never owned one, never loaded for one. Anybody shoot one, and what sort o' loads are you shooting in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Key 25-20 reloading data into your browser and there are many links with all the data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasty Newt # 7365 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Well, I don't have one, and John Boy pointed you in the right direction, but I've always thought I'd like to have a Model 92 in 25-20. Just for the heck of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Be prepared to have a bunch of Misses called that hit the target .... If you use it for this game , sorta like FCD shooters get .... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Nasty Newt # 7365 said: Well, I don't have one, and John Boy pointed you in the right direction, but I've always thought I'd like to have a Model 92 in 25-20. Just for the heck of it. Lock, Stock, and Barrel had one listed at the same time that I was also watching, and it sold for $693.88 on the 8th. I don't know what happened with the deal, but he re-listed it today, starting at 0.01, no reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasty Newt # 7365 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Three Foot Johnson said: Lock, Stock, and Barrel had one listed at the same time that I was also watching, and it sold for $693.88 on the 8th. I don't know what happened with the deal, but he re-listed it today, starting at 0.01, no reserve. Thanks. I will take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 Maybe the buyer decided to put his money into toilet paper instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Get in touch with Boomstick Jay. I sold him a semi-complete 92 a few years back in 25wcf. He told me at the time he was very fond of the caliber and had several others in that caliber. https://www.boomstickarms.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasty Newt # 7365 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Three Foot Johnson said: Lock, Stock, and Barrel had one listed at the same time that I was also watching, and it sold for $693.88 on the 8th. I don't know what happened with the deal, but he re-listed it today, starting at 0.01, no reserve. I can't find it. Can you send me a link? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Nasty Newt # 7365 said: I can't find it. Can you send me a link? thanks. Says you can't receive messages. This random series of numbers might help though - 860623757 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 One real problem with the 25-20 is finding brass. Unless Starline has started making it since the last time I've looked. I think bullet weights go up to 100 gr so with decent velocity, it should ring a target as loud as a 32 or 38 mouse phart load. I shot my first match with a 1894 25-20. Grafs has Winchester 25-20 ammo on sale. https://www.grafs.com/catalog/product/productId/19844 Missouri Bullet Company makes bullets. https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/915? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasty Newt # 7365 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 46 minutes ago, Three Foot Johnson said: Says you can't receive messages. This random series of numbers might help though - 860623757 I don't know why I can't receive messages but thanks for the number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk Kid Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 I've never used the 25-20 for sass so can't say on that but for real world use on woodchucks, foxes, coyotes, wolves,and turkeys (where rifles are legal) it works great. Recoil and noise are about like a 22 but with a lot more power. Both Remington and Winchester do runs of shells but aren't cheap if you look online midway has in stock Remington 86 gr. $72.00 per 50. Every 25-20 I've shot or seen shot has been very accurate with the 86 gr. factory slugs. Handloading I really liked the speer 75 gr. (it was made for the 25-20 specifically) but has been discontinued I guess.The light 60 gr. from hornady shoots good but I think is a little light except for woodchucks. The 86 gr. from Remington is excellent for accuracy and seems to be constructed good for foxes/coyotes etc.,. Haven't tried cast because I've always used them for hunting/varmint control on farm. I've used both 2400 and imr 4198 for powder and been very satisfied. Load data is in hornady Lyman and speer manual's. I think you'll find the 25-20 to be a great cartridge it's one that is just plain fun to shoot. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 41 minutes ago, Warden Callaway said: One real problem with the 25-20 is finding brass. Unless Starline has started making it since the last time I've looked. No, they haven't, but I've got 100+ new Starline cases from several years ago, and a LOT of .32-20 brass. The .32-20 brass is four or five thousandths larger at the base, and might interfere with a tight chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 I have enough 25-20 brass so I never had to try sizing 32-20 down. It may make the neck brass too thick. And the cases are fairly fragile. They also fall through cracks in boardwalks and otherwise hard to find. The Marlin 1894 in 25-20 is my favourite rodent control machine. I hope you get a complete working gun. Several of the most needed parts are long obsolete. The ejector and extractor are two. Wisnor makes new parts but they are expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 You an make your own .25-20 brass b y running .32-20 through a full length resizing die. I have a friend who has done that for years. Too bad there's not a revolver to go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil dogooder Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Interesting fact. It was advertised as an ideal deer gun for years. It actually works well as one too as long as you don't try to break bones or shoot them in the butt and expect the deer to perish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 I've got a '92 and a big bag full of brass. They are fun to shoot. I bought the rifle from my CAS mentor, who passed last year, but had not shot CAS for 10 years or so. Interestingly, I bought the brass on the classified wire 15 or 20 years ago, when it wasn't as rare as hen's teeth. I don't shoot it in CAS, cuz I shoot black powder, but I've often thought that, if I shoot indoors over the Winter, it would be a good rifle to pack. --Dawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 The Marlin 25-20 did a stellar job of putting down groundhogs out to 75 yards. But getting hits further out because difficult with open sights. So I upgraded to a Marlin with a scope in 17HMR I could reach out over 100 yards but the 17 never put them down like the 25-20. A lot were hit but ran off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 I had one years ago. (Marlin) It's a novelty gun for use in this game at best. IMO, it is a poor choice for anything other than being a novelty. Hard to load for, brass is a PIA to come by or make in quantities needed for the game, and you WILL BE CALLED lots of misses that you didn't earn. Snakebite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cusz M. Dutch SASS Life 55326 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 hours ago, evil dogooder said: Interesting fact. It was advertised as an ideal deer gun for years. It actually works well as one too as long as you don't try to break bones or shoot them in the butt and expect the deer to perish Also know a older guy that loved this round for deer hunting. Mostly used head shots and claimed it dropped his night time hunting shots better than a 22 LR ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 32 minutes ago, Cusz M. Dutch SASS Life 55326 said: Also know a older guy that loved this round for deer hunting. Mostly used head shots and claimed it dropped his night time hunting shots better than a 22 LR ... Probably 22 Magnum with solid nose bullet has taken over the lead for hunting deer at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil dogooder Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Cusz M. Dutch SASS Life 55326 said: Also know a older guy that loved this round for deer hunting. Mostly used head shots and claimed it dropped his night time hunting shots better than a 22 LR ... Idk about head shots with one but I do know it will shoot through the chest of an 180 lb deer. I've harvested 6 deer with one. Never needed a second shot. They are sure fun for the kids to shoot at steel too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 The Jim Jordan world record whitetail buck was taken with a .25-20 in 1914. It's not the record anymore, but it was for nearly 80 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sam, SASS #10915 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 The best thing about a 25-20 is that it can be rebored to a 32-20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 I have .32-20's - the whole idea of getting a .25-20 is to HAVE a .25-20! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Stuart #65654 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Hi TFJ, Just by coincidence I to just acquired a M92 25-20 last week. The loads I received with the rifle were jacketed, don't know if you are going to shoot jacketed or just cast. I have 50 new R-P 25-20 cases I could hook you up with the new time you're in town. From Lyman #44 edition, 25-20 with 69 gr. gas checked bullet, 5.0-6.0 Unique 9.0-11.0 2400 13.0-14.0 IMR 4198 Have other older manuals that I can research if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 Excellent! I'll be shooting cast - I ordered a thousand from Missouri Bullets two days ago, and dies are also on the way. I've got a few new cases on hand I bought in a shop in Idaho a few years ago. I thought they were Starline, but they're RP. Any more I can find is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Stuart #65654 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, Three Foot Johnson said: Excellent! I'll be shooting cast - I ordered a thousand from Missouri Bullets two days ago, and dies are also on the way. I've got a few new cases on hand I bought in a shop in Idaho a few years ago. I thought they were Starline, but they're RP. Any more I can find is great. 85 gr. cast bullet 9.5 4759 #42 Lyman 60 gr. 9.0-11.5 2400 9.7-12.7 4227 4.9 Unique 87 gr 8.0-9.5 2400 8.7-10.7 4227 7.5-10.0 4759 Just found a bunch, don't feel like typing all them, loads for 68 and 88 gr bullets. Powders used Red Dot--700X--Green Dot--PB--Unique--SR7625 These are in the 3rd edition of Lyman cast bullet handbook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasty Newt # 7365 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 On 3/13/2020 at 10:12 AM, Three Foot Johnson said: I have .32-20's - the whole idea of getting a .25-20 is to HAVE a .25-20! I agree. I put in a bid on the Model 92, but I'm not going anywhere near where the previous auction wound up. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adolph Vancinghand, SASS #28923 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 The .25-20 is a sentimental favorite of mine. Back in the '50s, my Dad had a Model 92 in .25-20 re-barreled by Winchester to .218 Bee. It was a favorite saddlegun of his that he hunted the Texas Hill country with. When I was big enough, I carried it and killed my first whitetail with it. Years after Daddy passed, I resolved to put the rifle back into top shape...and return it to its original chambering. Here's the result: wearing a 24" barrel and sporting Doug Turnbull CCH work, gunsmith Robert Schuck really made this an heirloom. I run it with both factory 86 grain softpoints and 85 grain cast. I'll regularly pick this up for an evening stroll thru the pasture...coyotes beware! "Ad" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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