Oldbeans Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 I've been having an issue with my brass "sticking" in my dies. I wet tumble with Frankford arsenal cleaner. I have several thousand that need help. What's the best way to fix this? Will either of these methods add a little "lube" to the mix? Option 1: wet tumble again with wash and wax Option 2: dry tumble with a little nu finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 You will have to spray or finger lube them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Shooter Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 What I do is de-prime then wet tumble with car wash/wax. After drying I spray the cases with One Shot, once it dries I go about loading. I found that with the One Shot the cases feed much smoother through the dies. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Take old bath towel and spray lightly with a Lanolin based case lube. Dump empties on towel and shift the cases back and forth like cleaning a bowling ball. Place in tray and ready to load. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbeans Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 I have the same method. Deprime then clean. I have some one shot I'll give it a try. Thanks Ok since I've got thousands to do the towel method seems logical thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusta B. Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Oldbeans said: I have the same method. Deprime then clean. I have some one shot I'll give it a try. Thanks Lightly - a little goes a long way. Some transfers to the resizing die & helps . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 When I started wet tumbling I used “LSD”: Lemishine and Dawn. Dawn is such an effective degreaser that my cases tended to gall in the carbide/nitride sizing dies. Never got one stuck, though. I found that it was sufficient to spray a little One Shot case lube on the clean cases and let them dry. Later I began using ArmorAll Wash n Wax in place of Dawn. It seems to work better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Yep, Hornady OneShot on the pistol caliber cases. Even on 44-40 - even though the case is thin and usually won't stick in the sizer, the sizer dies are all steel rather than carbide, so spraying them just makes sizing that much easier. OneShot is not enough for bottleneck rifle cases, though. I like a grease type lube, like Hornady's Unique Case Lube. Neither of your suggested options would do enough lubing of the case, I would expect. Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbeans Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 Abe...my issue is galling in my expander die the brass is just too clean. I did a test run just now...few cases in a old pb jar squirt of one shot and swirl them around. Let them air dry for a few min. They had no issue 'sticking'... thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajun bandit Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Are you using carbide dies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Oldbeans said: I have the same method. Deprime then clean. I have some one shot I'll give it a try. Thanks Ok since I've got thousands to do the towel method seems logical thanks! Then case lube that Dillon sells will work much better. Spray the towel-NOT the cases. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Oldbeans said: Abe...my issue is galling in my expander die the brass is just too clean. I did a test run just now...few cases in a old pb jar squirt of one shot and swirl them around. Let them air dry for a few min. They had no issue 'sticking'... thanks That puts the lube inside the case-good way to see FTF's in your next shoot. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: Yep, Hornady OneShot on the pistol caliber cases. Even on 44-40 - even though the case is thin and usually won't stick in the sizer, the sizer dies are all steel rather than carbide, so spraying them just makes sizing that much easier. OneShot is not enough for bottleneck rifle cases, though. I like a grease type lube, like Hornady's Unique Case Lube. Neither of your suggested options would do enough lubing of the case, I would expect. Good luck, GJ I have used my towel method of case lubing for over 30 yrs. I've used to size my .50 BMG cases with no issue. Take that towel when done and store in a zip-lock back for future use. To remove the lube from the loaded ammo. Take a clean bath towel and spray with lacquer thinner and do the same movement as you did to apply the lube. Spread ammo on another towel to let the LT evaporate for a bit. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 43 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: That puts the lube inside the case-good way to see FTF's in your next shoot. With Hornady OneShot I have never had a squib due to lube in the case in 15 years of cowboy and wild bunch matches. A small number of times there was no POWDER in the case, but that was when I was not running a powder lock-out die. OneShot dries pretty darn fast. Wait a couple of minutes and unless you are drenching cases with that spray, you are good to load. Other ways of lubing cases may work, but I know my way works for me. Just My Experience, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 I lay my cases flat on a cookie sheet. Spray with OneShot and let dry. Most important is to be sure to shake the can good before using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Tequila Shooter said: What I do is de-prime then wet tumble with car wash/wax. After drying I spray the cases with One Shot, once it dries I go about loading. I found that with the One Shot the cases feed much smoother through the dies. YMMV One Shot spray does a great job of lubing SG shells too to keep hulls from sticking. I spray once lightly after I load, makes them good to go even months later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 I like Hornady One Shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: That puts the lube inside the case-good way to see FTF's in your next shoot. OLG Supposedly One Shot will not affect powder or primers if used as directed. For what it’s worth when I load bottleneck rifle cartridges I use powdered mica to lubricate the inside of case necks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: With Hornady OneShot I have never had a squib due to lube in the case in 15 years of cowboy and wild bunch matches. A small number of times there was no POWDER in the case, but that was when I was not running a powder lock-out die. OneShot dries pretty darn fast. Wait a couple of minutes and unless you are drenching cases with that spray, you are good to load. Other ways of lubing cases may work, but I know my way works for me. Just My Experience, GJ More than one way to "skin a frog". OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Dutch, SASS # 7995 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 3 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: That puts the lube inside the case-good way to see FTF's in your next shoot. OLG Hornady One Shot will not contaminate powder or primers ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Big Tree Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: I lay my cases flat on a cookie sheet. Spray with OneShot and let dry. Most important is to be sure to shake the can good before using. Same here. I have Hornady One Shot lube but like Sharp Shoot R Royal Case Sizing Lube allot better (MidwayUSA) for all bottle neck cases especially .223, 30/30 & 44-40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Von Dutch, SASS # 7995 said: Hornady One Shot will not contaminate powder or primers ! I have seen it happen It was a 'spray-n-shake' deal. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Dutch, SASS # 7995 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: I have seen it happen It was a 'spray-n-shake' deal. OLG Anything can happen when you don't follow instructions on the can! V.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sam, SASS #10915 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Hornady One Shot. Put maybe 500 cases or so on a cardboard box, then pour them into another cardboard box while spraying Hornady OS into the stream of cases. Takes maybe 3 to 5 seconds and you get enough lube on the cases to make them run smoothly in the dies. A can of lube lasts a long time using this method. After spraying, just pour the brass back into the first box and after a couple of minutes of drying, they are ready for the loader. I use this method for all of the pistol calibers that I load including both straight walled 32, 38, 44 and 45 cases; as well as the thin walled bottle necked 32-20, and 44-40’s. It’s not enough lube for high powered rifle cartridges though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 I use the "shake and bake" method for a while. Put a 100 or so cases in a large ziploc bag. Lay on side on loading bench and spread the cases out. Then spray over them with One Shot. Close bag ASAP and message and shake bag to distribute. Dump in tray for loading. Lately I've been filing loading blocks and then spraying over the mouth and top half. I feel a benefit from getting some inside the neck area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Huckleberry Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 I put a piece of the waffle grid from a fluorescent light in the bottom of an old cake pan, shake brass onto it. Most settle base-down, a few have to be flipped. Then I can inspect them for cracks and debris inside, separate odd cases (.357 vs. .38) and hit ‘em with a spray of OS from both sides. A little gets in the case mouth, but that just helps with the expander plug and has never been an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Warden Callaway said: I use the "shake and bake" method for a while. Put a 100 or so cases in a large ziploc bag. Lay on side on loading bench and spread the cases out. Then spray over them with One Shot. Close bag ASAP and message and shake bag to distribute. Dump in tray for loading. Lately I've been filing loading blocks and then spraying over the mouth and top half. I feel a benefit from getting some inside the neck area. I tried spraying One Shot over the cases in the case loader, as they churned. It worked great for the cases, but gradually gummed up the tray, requiring nearly an hour of difficult cleaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddnews SASS# 24779 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Even when I'm using a carbide die, I hit the brass with a little lube. It not only avoids sticking, it's just makes for less wear and tear on my busted up shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I noticed when i switched over from 38 Specials to 9 mm that the press required a lot more effort, even with carbide dies. Since then I've used a little case lube for everything. Really saves effort. I went with the home-made lube of 91 to 99% alcohol mixed with a little liquid lanolin. Works very well if you allow just a couple minutes or more drying time before loading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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