13 days

[Utah Bob #35998]

[Tex Jones, SASS 2263]

Just remembered I had this from 23 February 2019.

[Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663]

The Alamo church was a lot smaller than I imagined.

 

 

"El Degüello" (Slit Throat) - Give No Quarter

 

 

[Subdeacon Joe]

Brave, dedicated, and determined men.

But, Bob, you scared the hell out of me with the title of this thread!

 

[irish ike, SASS #43615]

History, legend, movies, and songs talk about how they fought off Santa Ana for 13 days. Then you go to the Alamo and read what really happened. Minor skirmishes for 12 days as Santa Ana waited for all of this troupe's and supplies to arrive. On the 13th day he attacked and it was over in a few hours. This was not a fort. It had low walls like a rancho would to contain livestock and offer some minimum protection. Brave men for staying knowing they would all die.

[Cat Brules]

The Alamo has a lot of property enclosed by low walls (now).
I’m unsure now, as to what it looked like (what?) in 1846 or 1847?.

if you go there, I think there’s several “layouts” of the original Alamo, it’s property, and its surroundings.

 

As an aside, I believe that right close nearby, is the building where there existed a whorehouse where, “The Yellow Rose of Texas” held court.

 

“She's the sweetest rose of color this darky ever knew, 
Her eyes are bright as diamonds,they sparkle like the dew; 
You may talk about your Dearest May, and sing of Rosa Lee, 
But the Yellow Rose of Texas beats the belles of Tennessee.”

 

Cat Brules

 

[Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646]

We were there last year, I was amazed how small the buildings were, the property is large but mostly not defensible. 

 

Imis

[Tex Jones, SASS 2263]

9 minutes ago, Cat Brules said:

The Alamo has a lot of property enclosed by low walls (now).
I’m unsure now, as to what it looked like (what?) in 1846 or 1847?.

if you go there, I think there’s several “layouts” of the original Alamo, it’s property, and its surroundings.

 

As an aside, I believe that right close nearby, is the building where there existed a whorehouse where, “The Yellow Rose of Texas” held court.

 

“She's the sweetest rose of color this darky ever knew, 
Her eyes are bright as diamonds,they sparkle like the dew; 
You may talk about your Dearest May, and sing of Rosa Lee, 
But the Yellow Rose of Texas beats the belles of Tennessee.”

 

Cat Brules

 

 

[Subdeacon Joe]

17 minutes ago, Cat Brules said:

The Alamo has a lot of property enclosed by low walls (now).
I’m unsure now, as to what it looked like (what?) in 1846 or 1847?.

if you go there, I think there’s several “layouts” of the original Alamo, it’s property, and its surroundings.

 

As an aside, I believe that right close nearby, is the building where there existed a whorehouse where, “The Yellow Rose of Texas” held court.

 

“She's the sweetest rose of color this darky ever knew, 
Her eyes are bright as diamonds,they sparkle like the dew; 
You may talk about your Dearest May, and sing of Rosa Lee, 
But the Yellow Rose of Texas beats the belles of Tennessee.”

 

Cat Brules

 

 

Interesting thing about that song is that, depending on what source you want to believe, the "Yellow Rose" might have been either a quadroon or octoroon.  

And now I'm going southward, for my heart is full of woe,
I'm going back to Georgia, to see my Uncle Joe.
You may talk about your Beauregard, and sing of Bobbie Lee,
But the gallant Hood of Texas played hell in Tennessee.

[Cat Brules]

Yes, I know that “The Yellow Rose” Of Texas was supposedly, as you say, 1/4, or 1/8 black, or whatever.  My question is: “How would “they” know anything like that for sure?”  I guess it mattered 170 years ago.  

 

The point is, “she” was supposedly of “mixed” white and to a lesser extent, black, heritage.  In those days “they” referred to a mixed-race, but mostly white, “black” woman, of very light complexion (of any percent black, really), as being, “high yellow”.  Hence her nickname, “The Yellow Rose”.   
 

Her real name may still be out there somewhere in the books I referenced from, but I’ve forgotten now what I was able to find regarding her name when I wrote my paper.  Even back then, I stood up to a blast of $#|£ for even bringing up the subject.  My response was, “I’m a Texan, and The Yellow Rose’s history became Texas history, and that isn’t going anywhere!”   
 

But, WAS The Yellow Rose a real person?  I say, arguably, yes.  Personally, I believe that she was a real person, but others say she was a fictionalization, “brought to life”  by folks embellishing an exotic legend.  I think I know more than most about her, due to a fairly in-depth paper I did on her many years ago.....BUT, I’m certain that anything I say could be contradicted by someone with their own ideas, or better research.  As I said, I like to believe she was real. 

 

For our purposes, let’s just agree the The Yellow Rose WAS real, and that Gus cut the cards with her for a poke....and lost.     She stayed in San Antonio, and Gus rode on to Montana, and into eternity, with Woodrow.

 

Cat Brules

[Subdeacon Joe]

24 minutes ago, Cat Brules said:

My question is: “How would “they” know anything like that for sure?”  I guess it mattered 170 years ago. 

 

Likely rumor and gossip.   

 

My comment was more to point out something that most people don't think about when they hear that song, mostly because when it was presented on shows like The Lawrence Welk Show Rose was usually presented as a very blonde sweet young thing. 

 

I would love to read your paper on the song.

[Cat Brules]

55 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

Likely rumor and gossip.   

 

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My comment was more to point out something that most people don't think

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about when they hear that song, mostly because when it was presented on shows like The Lawrence Welk Show Rose was usually presented as a very blonde sweet young thing. 

 

I would love to read your paper on the song.

Oh, I know.......I get off on a tangent talking about things that interest me, AND that I know enough about to be dangerous.  :-)

 

That paper may exist somewhere in an archive of such stuff a the UT (I doubt it, but they did have some of my older brother’s stuff) and I sure don’t have it now.  I just pulled that information up from memory.  Talking about the Alamo and recalling the nearby restored buildings triggered my memories.   

If we had had PC’s hard drives an memory sticks then!
 

The paper I wrote was a short introductory assignment paper (due within 2-3 days; we picked a topic), written to demonstrate ability to narrow a topic focus and scope, writing, research, bibliography, command of the language, etc. skills to a freshman English university professor.

 

Cat Brules

 

[Subdeacon Joe]

6 minutes ago, Cat Brules said:

If we had had PC’s hard drives an memory sticks then!

 

The drives would be crashed and the memory sticks "somewhere where I'll be able to find them."  

 

Folk music and what is behind it is a fascinating subject.  Some based on actual events and people, some on local legend which may or may not be based on fact, and some nonsense like Dan Tucker.    

 

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

I visited the Alamo a few years ago. It was used as an Army fort for many years, thus there is nothing that resembles the battle scene. I would like to have seen something that resembled the war era fortress.

 

there was a tourist attraction in Brackettville Texas which was the movie set for the 1960 John Wayne movie set, but it closed in 2010.

[Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967]

4 hours ago, Cat Brules said:

 

The Alamo has a lot of property enclosed by low walls (now).
I’m unsure now, as to what it looked like (what?) in 1846 or 1847?.

 

 

Off by ten years ~ 1836.

 

Hm.  I always liked the story from lore that "Rose" was entertaining Santa Ana in his tent at San Jacinto....  

[Cat Brules]

20 hours ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said:

 

Off by ten years ~ 1836.

 

Hm.  I always liked the story from lore that "Rose" was entertaining Santa Ana in his tent at San Jacinto....  

 

 

She (“The Yellow Rose”) was an agent sent in by the Texicans to distract Santa Anna.  I reckon he was busy for a while, policing up his ”equipment,” locating his drawers and the rest of his outfit, and hauling his butt outta that tent, Muy Pronto!  

       (Only the above part is a joke since I don’t know if she was there at all.)

 

General Sam Houston’s boys, already angry and spoiling for a fight, attacked, beat up and scattered the Mexicans, including their Fearless Leader, who had disguised himself as a Mexican corporal and headed off into the swamp.

Santa Anna got himself captured, then was outed by his own (captured) troops who recognized him and began fawning over him and saluting him.

 

General Sam dismissed the prevailing sentiment of his troops, which was to hang Santa Anna on the spot, but instead, told him his life would be spared if he signed over (ceded) all the land (not sure now how the document read, exactly) East of the Rio Bravo (Rio Grande) River.  It was either that, or the rope.  Houston kept his word, much to the dismay of his troops, and Santa Anna was spared.

 

Things didn’t go well for Santa Anna back in Mexico after that (another story).  He fled Mexico, obtained some deal for sanctuary, (I guess), and went to live in New York, the North Eastern part of the U.S.

 

BUT, let it be noted that Santa Anna achieved very limited, marginal and indirect fame after his male secretary noticed the General chewing the dried bark of some plant or tree.  It was called “chicle”.  The secretary, a guy named Adams (I think),    secured a bunch of the stuff and invented chewing gum!  So, if you like chewing gum you have General Lopez de Santa Anna to thank for it!

 

That would be the beginning (start) of the world’s chewing gum industry;

Adams gum, Wriggly gum, Chiclets, etc., etc. etc.

 

How’s about THAT for a “tall tale”?  But, all the above is true.
Believe It Or ELSE!!
     

 

Cat Brules

[Utah Bob #35998]

If a man can stand in the chapel and read the names of the defenders and where they came from without a lump in your throat I reckon I got nothing to say to him. I think a visit there should be on every American’s bucket list.

[Cypress Sun]

Defenders[edit]

Name	Rank	Birth year	Birthplace	Status	Legacy and notes	Ref(s)
Juan Abamillo	SGT	—	Texas	fatality	Entered March 4	[28]
James L. Allen	PVT	1815	Kentucky	survivor	Left on March 5 as the final courier sent from the Alamo	[29]
Robert Allen	PVT	—	Virginia	fatality		[30]
Horace Alsbury	PVT	1805	Kentucky	survivor	First courier sent out after arrival of Mexican troops on February 23	[31]
George Andrews	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[32]
Miles DeForest Andross	PVT	1809	Vermont	fatality		[33]
José María Arocha	—	—	—	survivor	Juan Seguin's volunteers	[Note 2]
Simon Arreola	—	—	—	survivor	Juan Seguin's volunteers	[Note 2]
Micajah Autry	PVT	1793[34]	North Carolina	fatality		[35]
Jesse B. Badgett	—	1807	Texas	survivor	Garrison delegate to the March 1 Convention of 1836 at Washington-on-the-Brazos	[36]
Juan A. Badillo	SGT	—	Texas	fatality	Entered March 4	[37]
Peter James Bailey III	PVT	1812	Kentucky	fatality	Namesake of Bailey County, Texas	[38]
Isaac G. Baker	PVT	1814	Arkansas	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[39]
William Charles M. Baker	CPT	—	Missouri	fatality		[40]
John Ballard	—	—	—	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[41]
John J. Ballentine	PVT	—	Pennsylvania	fatality		[42]
Richard W. Ballentine	PVT	1814	Scotland	fatality		[43]
Andrew Barcena	—	—	—	survivor		[Note 4]
John J. Baugh	CPT	1803	Virginia	fatality	Adjutant of the garrison, next in command after co-commanders Bowie and Travis	[44]
Samuel G. Bastain	—	—	Louisiana	survivor	Left February 29 as a courier to Gonzales, unable to enter the Alamo	[45]
Joseph Bayliss	PVT	1808	Tennessee	fatality		[44]
John Walker Baylor Jr.	PVT	1813	Kentucky	survivor	Sent as a courier to Goliad	[46]
Anselmo Bergara	—	—	Mexico	survivor		[Note 4]
John Blair	PVT	1803	Tennessee	fatality		[47]
Samuel Blair	CPT	1807	Tennessee	fatality	Assistant to Master of Ordnance	[48]
William Blazeby	CPT	1795	England	fatality		[48]
James Bonham	2LT	1807	South Carolina	fatality	Courier to Goliad and Gonzales, returned March 3	[49]
Daniel Bourne	PVT	1810	England	fatality		[50]
James Bowie	COL	c. 1796	Kentucky	fatality	Co-commander of the garrison after the departure of James. C. Neill	[51]
J. B. Bowman	—	—	—	fatality	Possibly a.k.a. James H. Bowman	[52]
Robert Brown	PVT	c. 1818	—	survivor	Left after February 25, later served as a baggage guard at the Battle of San Jacinto	[53]
James Buchanan	PVT	1813	Alabama	fatality		[54]
Samuel E. Burns	PVT	1810	Ireland	fatality		[54]
George D. Butler	PVT	1813	Missouri	fatality		[54]
John Cain	PVT	1802	Pennsylvania	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[55]
Robert Campbell	LT	1810	Tennessee	fatality		[56]
William R. Carey	CPT	1806	Virginia	fatality		[56]
Cesario Carmona	—	—	—	survivor	Juan Seguin's volunteers	[Note 2]
M.B. Clark	PVT	—	Mississippi	fatality	Entered March 4	[57]
Daniel W. Cloud	PVT	1812	Kentucky	fatality		[58]
Robert E. Cochran	PVT	1810	New Hampshire	fatality	Namesake of Cochran County, Texas	[59]
George Washington Cottle	LT	1811	Missouri	fatality	Entered March 1 or 4 Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company; namesake of Cottle County, Texas	[60]
Henry Courtman	PVT	1808	Germany	fatality	Entered March 4	[61]
Lemuel Crawford	PVT	1814	South Carolina	fatality		[62]
David Crockett	COL	1786	Tennessee	fatality		[63]
Robert Crossman	PVT	1810	Pennsylvania	fatality		[64]
Antonio Cruz y Arocha	PVT	—	Mexico	survivor	Left as courier with Seguin on February 25	[65]
David P. Cummings	PVT	1809	Pennsylvania	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[66]
Robert Cunningham	PVT	1804	New York	fatality		[67]
Matias Curvier	—	—	—	survivor	Juan Seguin's volunteers	[Note 2]
Jacob C. Darst	LT	1793	Kentucky	fatality	Entered March 1 or 4 Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[68]
John Davis	PVT	1811	Kentucky	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[69]
Freeman H.K. Day	PVT	1806	—	fatality	Entered March 1 or 4	[70]
Squire Daymon	PVT	1808	Tennessee	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[71]
William Dearduff	PVT	c. 1811	Tennessee	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[71]
Alexandro De la Garza	PVT	—	Texas	survivor	Dispatched as a courier	[72]
N. Debichi	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[73]
Stephen Dennison	PVT	1812	England or Ireland	fatality	Entered March 4	[74]
Francis L. DeSauque	CPT	—	Pennsylvania	survivor	Left to gather supplies at Goliad	[75]
John Desauque	—	—	Louisiana	fatality	Slave of Desauque, served as a combatant (Slaves identified by last names of their masters)	[76]
Charles Despallier	PVT	1812	Louisiana	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[77]
Lewis Dewall	PVT	1812	New York	fatality		[78]
Almaron Dickinson	CPT	1810	Tennessee	fatality		[79]
James Dickson	—	—	—	fatality		[80]
John Henry Dillard	PVT	1805	Tennessee	fatality		[81]
Philip Dimmitt	CPT	1801	Kentucky	survivor	On a scouting run when the Mexican troops arrived on February 23	[82]
James R. Dimpkins	SGT	—	England	fatality		[83]
Andrew Duvalt	PVT	1804	Ireland	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[84]
Samuel M. Edwards	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[85]
Conrad Eigenauer	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[73]
J.D. Elliott	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[73]
Frederick E. Elm	—	—	—	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[41]
Lucio Enriques	—	—	—	survivor	Juan Seguin's volunteers	[Note 2]
Carlos Espalier	PVT	1819	Texas	fatality	Entered March 4	[86]
José Gregorio Esparza	PVT	1802	Texas	fatality		[87]
Robert Evans	MAJ	1800	Ireland	fatality	Master of Ordnance	[88]
Samuel B. Evans	PVT	1812	New York	fatality		[89]
James L. Ewing	PVT	1812	Tennessee	fatality		[89]
William Keener Fauntleroy	PVT	1814	Kentucky	fatality		[90]
William Fishbaugh	PVT	—	Alabama	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[91]
John Flanders	PVT	1800	New Hampshire	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[91]
Manuel N. Flores	—	c.1801	Texas	survivor	Juan Seguin's volunteers	[Note 2]
Salvador Flores	CPT	1806	Texas	survivor	Left with Seguín on February 25	[92]
Dolphin Ward Floyd	PVT	1804	North Carolina	fatality	Namesake of Floyd County, Texas; Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[93]
John Hubbard Forsyth	CPT	1797	New York	fatality		[94]
Antonio Fuentes	PVT	1813	Texas	fatality		[95]
Galba Fuqua	PVT	1819	Alabama	fatality	Entered March 1 or 4 Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[96]
William Garnett	PVT	1812	Virginia	fatality		[97]
James W. Garrand	PVT	1813	Louisiana	fatality		[97]
James Girard Garrett	PVT	1806	Tennessee	fatality		[98]
John E. Garvin	PVT	1809	—	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[99]
John E. Gaston	PVT	1819	—	fatality	Entered March 1 or 4 Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[100]
James George	PVT	1802	—	fatality	Entered March 1 or 4 Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[101]
William George	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March1 or 4	[85]
James Gibson	—	—	—	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[41]
John C. Goodrich	CNT	1809	Virginia	fatality		[102]
Francis H. Gray	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[85]
W.T. Green	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[73]
Albert Calvin Grimes	PVT	1817	Georgia	fatality		[103]
Ignacio Gurrea	—	—	—	survivor	Juan Seguin's volunteers	[Note 2]
Brigido Guerrero	PVT	—	Mexico	survivor	A deserter from Ugartechea's troops, convinced the Mexican troops he was a prisoner of war	[104]
James C. Gwin	PVT	1804	England	fatality	aka Gwynne	[105]
John Harris	PVT	1813	Kentucky	fatality		[106]
Andrew Jackson Harrison	PVT	1809	Tennessee	fatality		[106]
I.L.K. Harrison	—	—	—	fatality		[107]
William B. Harrison	CPT	1811	Ohio	fatality		[108]
Joseph M. Hawkins	PVT	1799	Ireland	fatality		[108]
John M. Hays	PVT	1814	Tennessee	fatality		[109]
Charles M. Heiskell	PVT	1813	Tennessee	fatality		[109]
Patrick Henry Herndon	PVT	1802	Virginia	fatality		[110]
Pedro Herrera	—	—	—	survivor	Juan Seguin's volunteers	[Note 2]
William Daniel Hersee	SGT	1805	England	fatality		[111]
Benjamin Franklin Highsmith	PVT	1817	Missouri Territory	survivor	Left as a courier March 1	[112]
Tapley Holland	PVT	1810	Ohio	fatality		[113]
James Holloway	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[32]
Samuel Holloway	PVT	1808	Pennsylvania	fatality		[114]
William D. Howell	—	1791	Massachusetts	fatality	Entered March 4	[115]
William Hunter	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[73]
Thomas P. Hutchinson	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[32]
William A. Irwin	—	—	—	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[41]
Thomas R. Jackson	PVT	—	Ireland	fatality	Entered March 1 or 4 Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[116]
William Daniel Jackson	LT	1807	Kentucky	fatality		[117]
Green B. Jameson	MAJ	1807	Kentucky	fatality		[118]
Gordon C. Jennings	CPL	1780	Connecticut	fatality		[119]
Damacio Jiménez	PVT	—	Texas	fatality	Entered March 4	[120]
John Johnson	PVT	1800	Missouri	survivor	Dispatched as courier February 23	[121]
Lewis Johnson	PVT	—	Illinois Territory	fatality		[122]
William Johnson	PVT	—	Pennsylvania	fatality		[123]
William P. Johnson	SGT	—	—	survivor	Likely dispatched as courier February 23	[123]
John Jones	1LT	1810	New York	fatality		[123]
James Kenny	PVT	1814	Virginia	fatality		[124]
Andrew Kent	PVT	1798	Virginia	fatality	Namesake of Kent County, Texas, Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[125]
Joseph Kent	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March 1 or 4 Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[126]
Joseph Kerr	PVT	1814	Louisiana	fatality		[127]
George C. Kimble	LT	1803	Pennsylvania	fatality	Namesake of Kimble County, Texas; entered March 1 or 4 Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[128]
John C. Kin	—	—	—	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[41]
William Philip King	PVT	1820	Mississippi	fatality	Youngest defender fatality; namesake of King County; Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[129]
William Irvine Lewis	PVT	1806	Virginia	fatality		[130]
William J. Lightfoot	3CPL	1805	Kentucky	fatality		[130]
Jonathan Lindley	PVT	1814	Illinois	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[131]
William Linn	PVT	—	Massachusetts	fatality		[132]
Byrd Lockhart	CPT	1782	Virginia	survivor	Left with Andrew Jackson Sowell left to buy supplies; namesake of Lockhart, Texas	[133]
Toribio Losoya	PVT	1808	Texas	fatality		[124]
George Washington Main	LT	1807	Virginia	fatality		[134]
William T. Malone	PVT	1817	Georgia	fatality		[135]
William Marshall	PVT	1808	Tennessee	fatality		[135]
Albert Martin	CPT	1808	Rhode Island	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company dispatched with the Travis letter To the People of Texas & All Americans in the World; returned to the Alamo	[136]
Samuel Augustus Maverick	PVT	1803	South Carolina	survivor	Garrison delegate to the March 1 Convention of 1836 at Washington-on-the-Brazos	[137]
Edward McCafferty	LT	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[138]
Ross McClelland	—	—	—	fatality		[139]
Daniel McCoy Jr.	—	—	—	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[41]
Jesse McCoy	PVT	1804	Tennessee	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[140]
Prospect McCoy	—	—	—	fatality		[41]
William McDowell	PVT	1794	Pennsylvania	fatality		[141]
James McGee	PVT	—	Ireland	fatality		[141]
John McGregor	SGT	—	Scotland	fatality		[142]
Robert McKinney	PVT	1809	Ireland	fatality		[143]
S.W. McNeilly	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[73]
Eliel Melton	QM, LT	1798	Georgia	fatality		[144]
Antonio Menchaca	—	1800	Texas	survivor	Juan Seguin's volunteers	[Note 2]
Thomas R. Miller	PVT	1795	Tennessee	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[145]
William Mills	PVT	1815	Tennessee	fatality		[146]
Isaac Millsaps	PVT	c. 1795	Mississippi	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[147]
Edward F. Mitchasson	—	1806	Virginia	fatality	Entered March 4 a.k.a. Dr. E.F. Mitchusson	[148]
Edwin T. Mitchell	PVT	1806	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[149]
Napoleon B. Mitchell	PVT	1804	—	fatality		[150]
Robert B. Moore	PVT	1781	Virginia	fatality	Entered March 4	[151]
Willis A. Moore	PVT	1808	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[151]
John Morman	—	—	—	fatality		[80]
William Morrison	—	—	—	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[41]
Robert Musselman	SGT	1805	Ohio	fatality		[152]
James Nash	—	—	—	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[41]
Andrés Nava	SGT	1810	Texas	fatality	Entered March 4	[153]
Gerald Navan	PVT	—	—	survivor	Dispatched as courier March 3	[17]
George Neggan	PVT	1808	South Carolina	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[154]
Andrew M. Nelson	PVT	1809	Tennessee	fatality		[155]
Edward Nelson	PVT	1816	South Carolina	fatality		[155]
George Nelson	PVT	1805	South Carolina	fatality		[156]
Benjamin F. Nobles	LT	—	—	survivor	On a scouting run when the Mexican troops arrived on February 23	[157]
James Northcross	PVT	1804	Virginia	fatality		[158]
James Nowlan	PVT	1809	England	fatality		[159]
L.R. O'Neil	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[73]
George Olamio	PVT	—	Ireland	fatality	Entered March 4	[85]
William Sanders Oury	PVT	1817	Virginia	survivor	Dispatched as a courier February 29	[160]
Jose Sebastian "Luciano" Pacheco	—	—	—	survivor	Dispatched on a personal errand for Seguín February 23	[161]
George Pagan	PVT	1810	—	fatality		[162]
Christopher Adams Parker	PVT	1814	—	fatality		[152]
William Parks	PVT	1805	North Carolina	fatality		[152]
William Patton	AQM, LT	1808	Kentucky	survivor	Assumed to be a courier, who left with John William Smith	[163]
Richardson Perry	PVT	1817	Mississippi	fatality		[164]
Adolf Petrasweiz	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[165]
Amos Pollard	—	1803	Massachusetts	fatality	Chief surgeon of the garrison, created a hospital in the fortress	[166]
Eduardo Ramirez	—	—	—	survivor	Juan Seguin's volunteers	[Note 2]
John Purdy Reynolds	PVT	1806	Pennsylvania	fatality		[167]
Thomas H. Roberts	PVT	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[168]
James Waters Robertson	PVT	1812	Tennessee	fatality		[169]
Ambrosio Rodriguez	—	—	—	survivor	Juan Seguin's volunteers	[Note 2]
Guadalupe Rodriquez	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[85]
James M. Rose	PVT	1805	Ohio	fatality	With Crockett; not to be confused with Louis Moses Rose, the individual purported to have chosen not to stay and defend the Alamo (but who cannot definitely be proven to have been there)	[170]
Jacob Roth	MAJ	—	—	fatality		[107]
Jackson J. Rusk	PVT	—	Ireland	fatality		[171]
Joseph Rutherford	PVT	1798	Kentucky	fatality		[172]
Isaac Ryan	PVT	1805	Louisiana	fatality		[171]
W.H. Sanders	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[73]
Mial Scurlock	PVT	1809	North Carolina	fatality		[164]
Juan Seguín	CPT	1806	Texas	survivor	Left February 25 to recruit reinforcements	[173]
Marcus L. Sewell	PVT	1805	England	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[Note 5]
Manson Shied	PVT	1811	Georgia	fatality	aka Shudd	[164]
Silvero	—	—	—	survivor	Juan Seguin's volunteers	[Note 2]
Cleveland Kinloch Simmons	LT	1815	South Carolina	fatality		[174]
Andrew H. Smith	PVT	1815	Tennessee	fatality		[174]
Charles S. Smith	PVT	1806	Maryland	fatality		[175]
John William Smith	—	1792	Virginia	survivor	The final courier sent to Washington-on-the-Brazos, unable to return	[176]
Joshua G. Smith	SGT	1808	North Carolina	fatality		[177]
William H. Smith	PVT	1811	—	fatality		[178]
Launcelot Smither	PVT	1800	—	survivor	Left for Gonzales as a courier on February 23; relayed the Travis letter from Albert Martin to the provisional government at San Felipe	[179]
Andrew Jackson Sowell	PVT	1815	Tennessee	survivor	Left with Byrd Lockhart to buy supplies	[180]
John Spratt	—	—	—	fatality	Entered March 4	[32]
Richard Starr	PVT	1811	England	fatality		[181]
James E. Stewart	PVT	1808	England	fatality		[181]
Richard L. Stockton	PVT	1817	New Jersey	fatality		[181]
A. Spain Summerlin	PVT	1817	Tennessee	fatality		[182]
William E. Summers	PVT	1812	Tennessee	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[183]
John Sutherland	PVT	1792	Virginia	survivor	Sent to Gonzales for reinforcements on February 23	[184]
William DePriest Sutherland	PVT	1818	Alabama	fatality		[178]
Edward Taylor	PVT	1812	Tennessee	fatality	Namesake of Taylor County, Texas, brother of James and George, entered March 1 or 4	[185]
George Taylor	PVT	1816	Tennessee	fatality	Namesake of Taylor County, brother of Edward and James, entered March 1 or 4	[186]
James Taylor	PVT	1814	Tennessee	fatality	Namesake of Taylor County, Texas, brother of George and Edward, entered March 1 or 4	[187]
William Taylor	PVT	1799	Tennessee	fatality	Entered March 1 or 4	[188]
B. Archer M. Thomas	PVT	1818	Kentucky	fatality		[189]
Henry Thomas	PVT	1811	Germany	fatality	Entered March 4	[190]
Thompson	—	—	—	fatality	Per historian Lindley, no first name on the muster rolls	[191]
John W. Thomson	PVT	1807	North Carolina	fatality		[192]
John, M. Thurston	2LT	1812	Pennsylvania	fatality		[193]
Burke Trammel	PVT	1810	Ireland	fatality		[193]
Joe Travis	—	1813 or 1815	Alabama	survivor	Slave of William B. Travis, fought beside him in the battle; accompanied Susanna Dickinson to Gonzales. (Slaves identified by last names of their masters)	[194]
William B. Travis	LTC	1809	South Carolina	fatality	Co-commander of the garrison after the departure of James. C. Neill	[195]
George W. Tumlinson	PVT	1814	Missouri	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[196]
James Tylee, James	PVT	1795	New York	fatality		[197]
Asa Walker	PVT	1813	Tennessee	fatality		[198]
Jacob Walker	PVT	1799	Tennessee	fatality		[198]
William B. Ward	SGT	1806	Ireland	fatality		[198]
Henry Warnell	PVT	1812	Arkansas	escaped	Died June 1836 of wounds incurred during the battle or during his escape	[199]
Joseph G. Washington	PVT	c. 1808	Tennessee	fatality	Possibly a.k.a. James Morgan	[198]
Thomas Waters	PVT	1812	England	fatality		[198]
William Wells	PVT	1798	Georgia	fatality		[198]
Isaac White	SGT	—	—	fatality		[200]
Robert White	CPT	1806	England	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[201]
Hiram James Williamson	SMA	1810	Pennsylvania	fatality		[202]
William Wills	—	—	—	fatality		[202]
David L. Wilson	PVT	1807	Scotland	fatality		[202]
John Wilson	PVT	1804	Pennsylvania	fatality		[202]
Anthony Wolf	PVT	1782	—	fatality		[202]
Claiborne Wright	PVT	1810	North Carolina	fatality	Gonzales Mounted Ranger Company	[203]
Charles Zanco	LT	1808	Denmark	fatality		[202]
Vicente Zepeda	—	—	—	survivor	Juan Seguin's volunteers	[Note 2]

[Cat Brules]

 

13 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said:

If a man can stand in the chapel and read the names of the defenders and where they came from without a lump in your throat I reckon I got nothing to say to him. I think a visit there should be on every American’s bucket list.

 

Yes, I agree, Bob.

However, the prevailing, fetid wind of the self-haters would or will describe the Texas War of Independence as a blatant land grab by racist “white people” imperialists to steal a large portion of Mexico.

 

I could get into THAT fallacy, but I won’t do it right this minute.

 

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[Utah Bob #35998]

To the People of Texas & All Americans in the World:

Fellow citizens & compatriots—I am besieged, by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna—I have sustained a continual Bombardment & cannonade for 24 hours & have not lost a man. The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword, if the fort is taken—I have answered the demand with a cannon shot, & our flag still waves proudly from the walls. I shall never surrender or retreat. Then, I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid, with all dispatch—The enemy is receiving reinforcements daily & will no doubt increase to three or four thousand in four or five days. If this call is neglected, I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible & die like a soldier who never forgets what is due to his own honor & that of his country—Victory or Death.

William Barret Travis

Lt. Col. comdt

 

[Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life]

12 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said:

If a man can stand in the chapel and read the names of the defenders and where they came from without a lump in your throat I reckon I got nothing to say to him. I think a visit there should be on every American’s bucket list.

I was station at Ft Sam Houston in San Antonio for 22 months and visited the Alamo shrine many times. While I am not a Texan by birth, I feel the same as Bob stated. I have read that they are now planning on enlarging the grounds by buying some adjacent land so it will be easier to park and visit. Hope it happens.