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I have a bunch (1000's) of hollow base wad cutters and I noticed a bit in the rule book about bullets being flush with the case mouth as being illegal. I typically seat the wad cutter about 1/4 inch above flush - would that be legal - these are for pistol only and typically they shoot very well. 

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Yes.   Leave a little bit of lead above case mouth, and you are good.   (Keep them well away from any magazine-fed rifles, as you know.)

Good luck, GJ

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1 hour ago, Make do said:

I have a bunch (1000's) of hollow base wad cutters and I noticed a bit in the rule book about bullets being flush with the case mouth as being illegal. I typically seat the wad cutter about 1/4 inch above flush - would that be legal - these are for pistol only and typically they shoot very well. 

 

At or above is LEGAL:

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Ammunition with bullets recessed below the case mouth is not allowed.   

SHB p.27

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If you have a Marlin 1894, it is possible to set the carrier and timing to allow successful usage

of full wadcutters.   When I had my .38 competition, I used a few 000's of them in it with no

issues.

 

Proper carrier mod is the secret.   Otherwise, you'll feel like you're in Heartbreak City..... ;)

 

..........Widder

 

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I remember when the rule was implemented, and was present when it was discussed... but... I probably stepped away for another adult beverage, so I don't remember the particulars!  (Something about it not being a "traditional" cowboy era bullet type is tickling at the memory banks...)  Maybe because there's no mechanical grip on the bullet to keep it from telescoping and creating a possible overpressure situation.

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I don't remember who made them, but there was a run or three of ammunition loaded commercially for CAS with the bullet set WAY DOWN in the case.  Very light powder change.  Recoil like a .22.  Rules committee jump'd on it like a chubby kid onna twinkie.

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PWB,

WHY are these”below-the-case” rim/mouth cartridges illegal?

 

Is the reason really as CC stated above.  That doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, because I believe you could make similar low-recoil ammo with trimmed cases,  a different, shorter case ammo or a different, lighter caliber, etc.

 

I might could see at least another possible reason for it, but what's the actual reason for the rule?

 

 Cat Brules

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5 hours ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said:

 

I don't remember who made them, but there was a run or three of ammunition loaded commercially for CAS with the bullet set WAY DOWN in the case.  Very light powder change.  Recoil like a .22.  Rules committee jump'd on it like a chubby kid onna twinkie.

 

That was NOT the ROC...it was the TG's (see next post)

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IIRC, The primary reason for disallowing ammunition with recessed bullets was the difficulty in visually determining whether it was a live/unfired round or an empty casing (e.g. at the ULT)

A few "top guns" (and wannabes) at the time were attempting to achieve lighter loads by loading revolver ammo in that manner.

There was no minimum velocity/power factor rule at the time. (1999)

 

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Motion and second was made to disallow recessed bullet loads.

Motion carried.

This rule does not effect wadcutters or other bullets loaded at or above the case mouth.

? Power Factor
Motion and second was made to not institute a rule specifying a minimum velocity standard.

Motion carried.

Source: 1st TG SUMMIT MEETING MINUTES (1999)

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