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I never have.

 

Is it Tweedledee and Tweedledum, or Tweedledum and Tweedledee?

 

Are they always listed in the same order?

 

It's Jack and Jill, not Jill and Jack. Donny and Marie, not Marie and Donny. The Lone Ranger and Tonto, not Tonto and The Lone Ranger (well, except for that Johnny Depp one).

 

I just came across a reference to Tweedledum and Tweedledee, and I thought it went the other way.

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Chapter 4 of Through the looking glass is actually titled Tweedledum and Tweedledee.  Most references ona  quick search list them 'Dum then 'Dee, including this nursery rhyme:

Tweedledum and Tweedledee
    Agreed to have a battle;
For Tweedledum said Tweedledee
    Had spoiled his nice new rattle.
Just then flew down a monstrous crow,
    As black as a tar-barrel;
Which frightened both the heroes so,
    They quite forgot their quarrel.

 

There is also a note in Wiki (if you believe or trust wiki anything) about the origins of the names twiddledum and twiddledee, cut and copied below:

 

The words "Tweedle-dum and Tweedle-dee" make their first appearance in print in "one of the most celebrated and most frequently quoted (and sometimes misquoted) epigrams", satirising the disagreements between George Frideric Handel and Giovanni Bononcini, written by John Byrom (1692–1763):

Some say, compar'd to Bononcini
That Mynheer Handel's but a Ninny
Others aver, that he to Handel
Is scarcely fit to hold a Candle
Strange all this Difference should be
'Twixt Tweedle-dum and Tweedle-dee!

Although Byrom is clearly the author of the epigram, the last two lines have also been attributed to Jonathan Swift and Alexander Pope.[1] While the familiar form of the rhyme was not printed until around 1805, when it appeared in Original Ditties for the Nursery, it is possible that Byrom was drawing on an existing rhyme.

 

 

Yes, to answer your obvious question...I am extremely bored sitting here at work... :D

 
 
 
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I've long held that Lewis Carrol (aka "Charles Lutwidge Dodgson") had shared the Caterpillar's hookah... and it wasn't loaded with shisha.  :rolleyes:

 

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An artist by the name of James Christensen (now deceased), which I collected in years past, included them in his expansive collection of figures to represent in both artwork and porcelain.

 

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3 hours ago, Alpo said:

I never have.

 

Is it Tweedledee and Tweedledum, or Tweedledum and Tweedledee?

 

Are they always listed in the same order?

 

It's Jack and Jill, not Jill and Jack. Donny and Marie, not Marie and Donny. The Lone Ranger and Tonto, not Tonto and The Lone Ranger (well, except for that Johnny Depp one).

 

I just came across a reference to Tweedledum and Tweedledee, and I thought it went the other way.

 

Perhaps you should Go Ask Alice.

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I couldn't resist.

 

 

White Rabbit

One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small
And the one's that mother gives you
Don't do anything at all

 

Go ask Alice
When she's ten feet tall

 

And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you're going to fall
Tell 'em a hookah, smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call

 

Call Alice

When she was just small

 

When men on the chessboard
Get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of mushroom
And your mind is movin' slow

 

Go ask Alice
I think, she'll know

 

When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead
And the white knight is talking backwards
And the red queen's off with her head
Remember what the dormouse said

 

Feed your head
Feed your head

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1 hour ago, Cypress Sun said:

Perhaps you should Go Ask Alice.

 

54 minutes ago, Calamity Kris said:

I couldn't resist.

White Rabbit

One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small
And the one's that mother gives you
Don't do anything at all....

 

 

Ya ready for this?

 

Grace Slick is 80 years old.  :blink:

 

How the heck did THAT ever happen?  :huh:

 

I'm surprised she didn't cash in her chips fifty years ago.  :wacko:

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Just now, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said:

 

 

Ya ready for this?

 

Grace Slick is 80 years old.  :blink:

 

How the heck did THAT ever happen?  :huh:

 

I'm surprised she didn't cash in her chips fifty years ago.  :wacko:

 

Maybe her and Keith Richards have the same "doctor".

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2 hours ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said:

 

 

Ya ready for this?

 

Grace Slick is 80 years old.  :blink:

 

How the heck did THAT ever happen?  :huh:

 

I'm surprised she didn't cash in her chips fifty years ago.  :wacko:

 

And I heard her and the Airplane at school dances at Cal in 1966, along with Quicksilver Messenger Service and Big Brother and the Holding Company with Janice Joplin. Kid you not. Was a freshman frat boy, so it makes me 72...

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