Col Del Rio Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Greetings, I have a 1911 (really 1991) Colt 45 I use for Wild Bunch shooting. I shoot traditional (i.e. one handed). The pistol has fixed sights. Is there a proven method to "adjust" the sights?Thanks, Col. Del Rio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullett Sass 19707 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The rear sight will adjust for windage by drifting it one way or the other. If you are dealing with the front sight that is staked you can have another taller or shorter re staked. The other way would be to have a front sight installed with a dove tail. Bullett 19707 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German Jim Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The rear sight can be drifted left or right. Front sight may need to be cut down, notched or replaced. I have a 1911 with factory unaltered G.I. sights that I use for Wild Bunch. I just use Kentucky windage and Tennessee elevation for my sight adjustment. Maybe that's why I miss the targets so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKFOOT SASS #11947 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 In addition to windage adjustment, vertical adjustment can be accomplished by changing the powder charge. Blackfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attica Jack #23953 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Windage, can be adjusted a little bit with the rear sight, for the front elevation, just take a different hold on the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCatcher Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 To change the windage you either drift the rear sight in the same direction you want the bullets to move, or you use a file to open up the rear sight notch, taking off metal only on the side you want the bullets to move to. If you want the POI to move right, remove metal on the inside right of the sight. Elevation can be corrected by changing the front sight, to raise POI remove some of the height of the front sight, to lower it use a taller front sight. A pelacement sight should cost around $11, and a competent gunsmith should be able to stake it in for $20-$30. Most 1911's are fairly good at shooting straight, so if it's a significant amount you need to move I'd reassess your grip first. Shadow Catcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Most 1911's are fairly good at shooting straight, so if it's a significant amount you need to move I'd reassess your grip first. And check your trigger pull technique - if you have trigger contacting the first joint of your trigger finger, you are "too far in". Pull should be with the pad of the trigger finger, not the joint. And check that you are not flinching. A right hand shooter flinches with 1911 to the left and low on target. Use a firm grip. Practice with a dead/dummy round in the middle of your magazine. Have a buddy load the round so you don't know when you will pull the trigger on it. Have buddy watch your gun for a flinch with muzzle dropping "violently". Then stop flinching if that is the problem. Only after you have done all this, and get a tight group, and your buddy has shot a tight group, and they are both off target in same direction, should you move sights. Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 You can also 'adjust' vertical impack with different length barrel links. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Greetings, I have a 1911 (really 1991) Colt 45 I use for Wild Bunch shooting. I shoot traditional (i.e. one handed). The pistol has fixed sights. Is there a proven method to "adjust" the sights?Thanks, Col. Del Rio How far off are they with factory ball ammo at 50'? OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.J. Bones SASS# 75616 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 You can also change elevation by replacing the original rear sight with a taller or shorter one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 More recoil ( heavier bullet or more velocity) raises the point of impact. Most pistols begin the recoil cycle before the bullet leaves the muzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson County Mike Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Windage, can be adjusted a little bit with the rear sight, for the front elevation, just take a different hold on the target. Hi, I'm lucky enough to have several different 1911's. Some shoot dead on and some need a 6 o'clock hold. Trick is to remember which is which. I try to use the same pistol for all my matches. Good Luck, regards, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attica Jack #23953 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Tom, I might have to disagree with you. I have found the faster the bullet the lower the impact, bullet is out of the barrel before the gun recoils. Slower and heavier bullets usually print high, because the gun is starting to recoil and the bullet is still in the barrel. Does not seem to make much of a difference with a rifle though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Del Rio Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 Thanks All. I think it may be my grip. I gotta go to the range and do some serious paper research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKFOOT SASS #11947 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 On 12/31/2019 at 1:55 PM, Attica Jack #23953 said: Tom, I might have to disagree with you. I have found the faster the bullet the lower the impact, bullet is out of the barrel before the gun recoils. Slower and heavier bullets usually print high, because the gun is starting to recoil and the bullet is still in the barrel. Does not seem to make much of a difference with a rifle though. This is correct. Blackfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc X Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Not really sight related but an old 1911 pin shooting trick for sweeps. A 1911 will tend to torque up and left during recoil. If the stage allows try moving right to left across the targets, it'll shave a little time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attica Jack #23953 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Thanks for the tip. Being a lefty, if given a choice, I will shoot the targets from right to left. This includes Wild Bunch and Cowboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 i needed to bring my groups up. went with a heavier bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 I needed to bring my 1911 groups up and right. I quit my flinching AND firmed up my grip. That did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 1:02 PM, Col Del Rio said: Thanks All. I think it may be my grip. I gotta go to the range and do some serious paper research. And if you think it is the gun and not your grip, try shooting it with the off hand and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Firming the grip also aids cycling... one of the most common problems with shooters new to the 1911. Let the recoil move your elbow, not the wrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tully Mars Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I had both front and rear sights replaced with taller dovetailed sights. Then I filed the front sight height to the desired point of impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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