Alpo Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 What is normal procedure when you pull over someone from out of state? Never been ticketed anywhere except here in my home county. But it occurred to me andTHAT if I got pulled for speeding in Georgia (for example) and they gave me a ticket and told me to be at the courthouse Wednesday next, there wasn't much to prevent me from just going on back to Florida and ignoring it. Surely I can't be the first person to realize that. So what do you do when you pull over an out-of-state driver? What guarantees does THAT he will show up at the courthouse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Fail to appear or failure to just pay the fine and they usually swear out a bench warrant. Next time you get pulled over in that state you get arrested and go to jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I renewed my license, 2009 I think, and the officer asked me if I’d been to Washington state or Montana. Had to think back, WA in ‘93 or ‘94. Montana I said no but I think I had been in Yellowstone Park in Montana, anyway it had been uneventful, nothing that would have merited an entry in a police database. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramblin Gambler Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 It's just the threat of being arrested next time a cop sees you in that state. An old boss of mine is a wanted man in Massachusetts. He parked a rental car illegally and they only made him pay the impound fee to get it back. A few months later they finally tracked him down and sent him a letter. He threw it in the trash because he never planned on going back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 It's just the threat of being arrested next time a cop sees you in that state. An old boss of mine is a wanted man in Massachusetts. He parked a rental car illegally and they only made him pay the impound fee to get it back. A few months later they finally tracked him down and sent him a letter. He threw it in the trash because he never planned on going back. Those days are fast coming to an end. Reciprocal enforcement of MV related fees and fines among many states, so that your home state can decline to renew your licence or registration if you have unpaid fees/fines due in reciprocal states. The long (interstate) arm of the law.... https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXIV/Chapter90C/Section7 LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 What is normal procedure when you pull over someone from out of state? Never been ticketed anywhere except here in my home county. But it occurred to me andTHAT if I got pulled for speeding in Georgia (for example) and they gave me a ticket and told me to be at the courthouse Wednesday next, there wasn't much to prevent me from just going on back to Florida and ignoring it. Surely I can't be the first person to realize that. So what do you do when you pull over an out-of-state driver? What guarantees does THAT he will show up at the courthouse? Because.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 All 50 states are now part of the reciprocal agreement concerning failure to appear on traffic violations. Fail to show or fail to pay in one state, they'll suspend your license in any of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 What Loophole and LawMan Mark said. This was true in several states back in the 90's. In fact in 94 Missouri changed the DWI statue and when another state was contacted regarding a DWI in Missouri they would want our paperwork so that warrants would be issued for that party in their state if on probation or parole. Get a speeding ticket in one state, don't show or pay up, get drivers license suspended in the state you are from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 I was watching Cannonball Run. Not sure how old the movie is, but most of the stars are dead. Burt, Farrah, Dom, Jack, Dean, Sammy, Mel. But there's these two big boob-bed chicks in skin-tight jumpsuits, driving a Lamborghini, and whenever a cop would stop them they would just unzip the zipper down to about their belly buttons, and the cop ended up just giving a warning. Until in Arizona Valerie Perrine was the cop. Pretty sure she gave 'em a ticket. This is what caused me to wonder how you could be sure the scofflaw would appear for the hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Years ago a ticket could only follow you if the state you were from and the state you received the ticket in were "contact states". That is no longer the case as Loophole and Mark stated above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The other side of this I is assume most States have a web site where you can pay the fine from where ever. SO no need to go to court unless you think the ticket was BS. Your insurance will find out also I believe! Ike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Because.... Bring it on, ugly. Understand that your threat just qualified my shooting you as elf defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 In a certain state along the I-15, the speed limit changes at every county line. These counties are well known for ticketing out of state drivers for speeding and collecting the fines as the "violators" could not easily appear in court to fight it . Well, my daughter was going to college in this state and was cited so she opted to go to court instead of pay it. When she appeared in court, they asked what she was doing there and she replied that she was there to contest the ticket. I guess they were so surprised that she chose to fight that they dismissed the ticket upon hearing her side of the issue. In a related matter, a few years earlier, I was cited for speeding on a state highway in the same state. I immediately went to the judge's office at the county courthouse to contest the ticket. I was informed that the judge was at his ranch and would return after lunch. So my daughter and I went to lunch and returned to the office after. Well, the judge was still absent so his staff called the ranch and got him on the phone. After we discussed the issue, he said that if I did not get another ticket in the following year, he would dismiss this one. I think this event gave my daughter the courage to fight her ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Bring it on, ugly. Understand that your threat just qualified my shooting you as elf defense. @Forty Rod SASS 3935, Had to look that one up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Huckleberry Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I was watching Cannonball Run. Not sure how old the movie is, but most of the stars are dead. Burt, Farrah, Dom, Jack, Dean, Sammy, Mel. But there's these two big boob-bed chicks in skin-tight jumpsuits, driving a Lamborghini, and whenever a cop would stop them they would just unzip the zipper down to about their belly buttons, and the cop ended up just giving a warning. Until in Arizona Valerie Perrine was the cop. Pretty sure she gave 'em a ticket. This is what caused me to wonder how you could be sure the scofflaw would appear for the hearing. You watched this traffic stop scene from Cannonball Run and started thinking about the legal aspects of out-of-state tickets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The other side of this I is assume most States have a web site where you can pay the fine from where ever. SO no need to go to court unless you think the ticket was BS. Your insurance will find out also I believe! Ike The practices vary. In TN, if the speed you were convicted of is less than 10 mph over the posted limit, the points don't count against you. In Alabama, a violation is a violation, and points will accrue on your license with any conviction. Also, Alabama has a long list of violations that have mandatory court appearance...can't pay them without seeing the judge. In Alabama, you have municipal courts and district courts that can hear traffic cases, based on which agency issues you the ticket. Some accept fines on line, some don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 Well, yeah, that's one of the things about preferring smaller-busted women. Adrienne Barbeau (the girl in the scene), Dolly Parton, Raquel Welch - they don't do nothing for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Jack Calder Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Back in the day, ( I think it was the 70’s) when the national speed limit was 55MPH, PA had large signs posted on the borders along the interstates. 56-60MPH = $XX, 61-65MPH = $XY, etc. Returning from a trip down south I entered PA from MD. Just cruising along with big rigs, not going crazy passing everything in sight. The State Trooper pulled me over and let the trucks pass unmolested. He collected my documents and returned to his cruiser to write me up. After a minute or two he practically breaks his neck to bail out of the cruiser an flag down another car as the big rigs he was running with passed on by. Once he completed my paperwork the officer came back to my window and said. “ I clocked you at XX MPH (way over what I was actually doing) but I only wrote you up for 53, the fine is $105.00.” “If paid in 5 days to the Spartensburg (?) Court they will not report this to your home state.” I thought to myself “SOLD!!” and went on home to NY State. I have noticed that the PA’s signs have been gone for a long time now. I guess the adjacent states objected to that money acquisition scheme. Just say’n! CJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Back in the 80s a small town named Wilmer AL, just outside Mobile, was so bad about issuing tickets to people passing through on the local highway that the DOT (I think) made them put up big signs at the city limits on either end of the town. The signs had flashing red lights on top of them and said ‘Motorists beware, speed trap next 7 miles.’ It got so bad the Chief of Police resigned stating that the city council wouldn’t let him pull men off the traps to investigate crimes. I stayed away to the extent I could and always drove well under the ever changing limit, but I was dating a resident so eventually I got a ticket for failing to use my blinker. I hadn’t made a turn but evidently that didn’t matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighorn SASS #1522 Life Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The automotive shop I work for in New Mexico does Ignition Interlock install for DWI. We have had customers try for New Mexico License and have had to get a interlock installed for a min of one year due to the DWI they got in another state 12 years prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Adrienne Barbeau (the girl in the scene), Dolly Parton, Raquel Welch - they don't do nothing for me. Me neither, but I'm willing to give them the chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 There is a pact between the states that says if a license is revoked in one state, all other states revoke it, as well. So, if a no-show, your license is revoked in the state where you were ticketed (yes, it can be revoked despite never having had one), and therefore in your home state. Plus, you get a warrant issued for your arrest. Most states will not extradite over a speeding ticket, but it will definitely hamper everything in your life until it gets cleared up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Back in the 80s a small town named Wilmer AL, just outside Mobile, was so bad about issuing tickets to people passing through on the local highway that the DOT (I think) made them put up big signs at the city limits on either end of the town. The signs had flashing red lights on top of them and said ‘Motorists beware, speed trap next 7 miles.’ It got so bad the Chief of Police resigned stating that the city council wouldn’t let him pull men off the traps to investigate crimes. I stayed away to the extent I could and always drove well under the ever changing limit, but I was dating a resident so eventually I got a ticket for failing to use my blinker. I hadn’t made a turn but evidently that didn’t matter. Sounds like some of the towns in south GA over near Vidalia and Ty Ty. A really small sign sitting well back from the road marks the change from 55 to 35 and 50 feet past it the speed limit goes to 25. There's always a cop sitting in a parking lot over on the right side of the road about 100 yard from the 25mph sign, too. It's a 4 lane highway with a turning lane down the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Back in the day had a fatal accident involving an 18 wheeler. The truck driver was at fault and his drivers license was from I think Montana. I had developed a system that N.C.I.C. ended up using on the computer where I could check this guy through many states at one time. Turned out he had drivers licenses in 5 states. When I checked all of them it turned out this driver was on parole for vehicular manslaughter in one of the states. I contacted them and they were not very happy with all the information I had. When we went to the judge the next day for the bond hearing and I informed the judge what I found out, he also was not happy and issued a cash bond of $500,000.00 When the case was disposed he got 10 years in Missouri and the other state issued a warrant to extradite him back to their state when he served his time in Missouri. Otherwise without me checking he would have been release O.R. and probably never seen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I'm reminded of the time just shy of fifty years ago when my aunt and uncle were driving from Oakland, California to Hawley, Minnesota to visit Uncle Ralph's family, with granddad in the back seat. As I recall the story, somewhere near Oakland, Nebraska, they were pulled over for "speeding." Aunt sez she wasn't speeding, but heck, that brand-new, bright orange Dodge Challenger of hers just begged for a ticket even sitting still. Anyway, they "escorted" her and her entourage to visit the Justice of the Peace (or some such) in a small nearby town, where she was given the choice of paying the fine (ca$h) or waiting for a court date. Of course she forked over the bucks and they were on their way. Closer to home: Mid 90's. I had to drive to our satellite office in Merced, California, and install a computer. Parked in front of the office, installed said computer, and came out to find a parking ticket on my windshield. What the...?? So I plucked it from under the wiper, and was astonished to see that I'd been cited for "not parking between the lines" on the pavement. Except there were no lines. The road had just been re-tarred; the painted parking space delineator markings were covered with asphalt and had not been re-painted. They flat did not exist. Being somewhat miffed, I hied myself on down to City Hall. Presented myself at the appropriate window and announced that I was there to protest the ticket. And was informed that the City of Merced, California, had NO process for protesting parking tickets. I had to pay it. As rationally as I could, I explained the situation... and was promptly advised - again - that I had neither voice nor choice in the matter. Pay up or suffer the consequences, which could include blocking my drivers license, vehicle registration renewal, or even arrest. The worst part was going back to the home office and having to listen to everyone laugh about it. I pretty much refuse to shop in the town of Merced, California to this day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Huckleberry Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Got pulled over for speeding once, towing a trailer. LEO came up. Looked like a young guy. Asked me if I knew why he pulled me over. Told him, 'Yeah, you probably got the call about the bank robbery in the next state over. The teller's body is in the trailer with the meth lab, and the money and guns are in the trunk." His jaw dropped, his eyes went wide, he had me out of the car and on the ground, called in his supervisor, a hazmat team, the FBI, a ME, two car haulers and the Highway Patrol. Opened the trailer, opened the trunk -- nothing but a spare tire. Supervisor comes up, says sorry -- they reacted because the young LEO said I'd robbed a bank, had money, a teller's body, and a meth lab. I said, "Wow. That's crazy. I suppose you're gonna say he told you some story about me speeding, too." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Got pulled over for speeding once, towing a trailer. LEO came up. Looked like a young guy. Asked me if I knew why he pulled me over. Told him, 'Yeah, you probably got the call about the bank robbery in the next state over. The teller's body is in the trailer with the meth lab, and the money and guns are in the trunk." His jaw dropped, his eyes went wide, he had me out of the car and on the ground, called in his supervisor, a hazmat team, the FBI, a ME, two car haulers and the Highway Patrol. Opened the trailer, opened the trunk -- nothing but a spare tire. Supervisor comes up, says sorry -- they reacted because the young LEO said I'd robbed a bank, had money, a teller's body, and a meth lab. I said, "Wow. That's crazy. I suppose you're gonna say he told you some story about me speeding, too." Ba-Dump Tissssh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Huckleberry Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Ba-Dump Tissssh Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitresses and bartenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Chance Morgun Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 "All 50 states are now part of the reciprocal agreement concerning failure to appear on traffic violations. Fail to show or fail to pay in one state, they'll suspend your license in any of the others. " This is known as the interstate compact. Most states were a part of this, but some weren't. If we stopped someone from a state that wasn't, they had to post a cash bond. "After we discussed the issue, he said that if I did not get another ticket in the following year, he would dismiss this one." This is a deferred judgement. For us, this was usually done with the officer's consent. Unless the driver was a repeat offender, or the violation was excessive, I always agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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