watab kid Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 i figure 10-12 cents but i dont calc my time cause i love doing it and you cant just buy off the shelf - even if its more i dont care , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 .38-40, .45CS, .45 Colt and .44 Mag smokeless: $.02 bullet (cast my own) $.03 primer $.015 Reddot powder $.065 total or $3.25 per 50 BP sub adds $.05 per round. I do not count the brass since I get 12-15 loads per case and buy once-fired brass (except the .38-40) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 45 Colt Smokeless: cast my own 250gr - once fired brass = $0.07 per round 45 Colt Black Powder: cast my own 250gr - once fired brass = $0.15 per round 38 Spl & 44-40 = ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I cast my own bullets and scrounge free lead everywhere I can. About $0.04 for 38s and $0.06 each for my .44s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I haven't run the numbers in years. But when I last calculated, I figured my cost per round of reloading was 25% of factory loads. I figured I amortized the cost of my press and dies in about 6 months of shooting once or twice a month. No reason to think that's changed, give or take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Chance Morgun Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Elvis has left the building Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Sheridan Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 44-40's loaded with a stiff BP load and buying the bullets cast runs me 19 cents each accounting for brass attrition. If I cast my own I can get it down a bit further. $8/box. Factory is closer to $45 per box and isn't nearly as much fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramblin Gambler Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I guess none of yall put a value on the time? I'm afraid to figure out what my cost per round will be for the first thousand I load. I'll have to include the cost of all the equipment too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 The way I look at it, the primers and brass and bullets and powder all cost a little, but I know I'm saving money and I like doing it. That brings me to the time... I look at the above items like debits on the account and the time I spend doing it like a credit. People spend a lot of $$ on therapists, psychologists, counselors, massage, yoga, etc., I get my therapy from spending time with Mr. Dillon, some nice music and shut out the world. Time? Time is priceless and the time I spend reloading is invaluable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 44 minutes ago, The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 said: The way I look at it, the primers and brass and bullets and powder all cost a little, but I know I'm saving money and I like doing it. That brings me to the time... I look at the above items like debits on the account and the time I spend doing it like a credit. People spend a lot of $$ on therapists, psychologists, counselors, massage, yoga, etc., I get my therapy from spending time with Mr. Dillon, some nice music and shut out the world. Time? Time is priceless and the time I spend reloading is invaluable to me. You nailed it. I find the actual reloading to be very therapeutic also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I've got several thousand pieces of brass and lots of components. If either of you guys are feeling stressed you're welcome to come over and reload for a few hours. I won't even charge for the 'therapy.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I hate to admit it, but my shoulders and elbows just don't like reloading anymore. If I can get Shootin Sharyn proficient at seating the primers I'll gladly hand off our reloading responsibilities to her and give my body a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Well, when yer loadin 10,000 rds a month... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Chance Morgun Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Ramblin Gambler said: I guess none of yall put a value on the time? I'm afraid to figure out what my cost per round will be for the first thousand I load. I'll have to include the cost of all the equipment too. Gambler, I do understand what you are saying about time. Everyone's time has a different value. One hour of a professional's time is far more valuable than the kid flipping burgers at Micky D's. When I was working, one hour of overtime could almost buy me two boxes of .38's. I'm sure that same hour on a progressive press could produce six to eight boxes. Being semi-retired, ( and living in the North) I've got more time than money. Plus, the wife doesn't pay me anything to watch old westerns on the TV or play on the WIRE. As for the cost of equipment and amount of rounds it takes to start saving money, that depends on your press. But at a cost of approx. $100/ 1,000 vs $300/ 1,000, the more you reload, the cheaper it gets. And you will get some money back if you sell your equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 My rule of thumb for reloading is $5 per box of anything, including Shot Shells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 said: Well, when yer loadin 10,000 rds a month... LOL, more like 1,200 - 1,400. I've been coasting for the last three months, the brass is piling up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just moved... I can't find a bunch of stuff I need. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mud Marine,SASS#54686 Life Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 It makes no differance to a Holy Black shooter like me. My .45s, 10 gauge, 8 gauge, .38-55, .50-140 wouldn't get fired if I didn't load my own.!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 50-140? 10 gauge? 8 gauge?? Couldn't ya find some 45-70 revolvers? Not wimpin' out on us, are ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Holiday Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Being a new feller, I recently went through the math and I came up with this for .38: Just starting out- Buying shiny new brass - $.28 a round Buying used / once fired brass - $.19 a round Once you have brass - $.09 - $.13 a round Compared to store bought at $.44 a round that's pretty big savings! I did find factory loaded, 125gr rounds for $267 for 1000 at Georgia Arms ($.27 a round if you buy during one of their "free shipping" promotions). That's not too much more than reloading once fired brass (starting out that is). So, I bought from them to collect brass and buy time till I could swing reloading gear (trying to spread out purchases). That plan worked great for me. I've got 2400 ish cases now and picked up a Lee turret press, dies, funnel and dipper set plus some misc stuff for just shy of $200 (all of it new). I still need a powder measure and safety scale but I'm not in much hurry for that. I've fallen in love with BP and am happy scooping 1.3 cc's into the funnel on my turret. I'm finally getting a tumbler to clean my brass today. Found one used for $30. And then I should be done spending money right? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 26 minutes ago, Croc Holiday said: Being a new feller, I recently went through the math and I came up with this for .38: Just starting out- Buying shiny new brass - $.28 a round Buying used / once fired brass - $.19 a round Once you have brass - $.09 - $.13 a round Compared to store bought at $.44 a round that's pretty big savings! I did find factory loaded, 125gr rounds for $267 for 1000 at Georgia Arms ($.27 a round if you buy during one of their "free shipping" promotions). That's not too much more than reloading once fired brass (starting out that is). So, I bought from them to collect brass and buy time till I could swing reloading gear (trying to spread out purchases). That plan worked great for me. I've got 2400 ish cases now and picked up a Lee turret press, dies, funnel and dipper set plus some misc stuff for just shy of $200 (all of it new). I still need a powder measure and safety scale but I'm not in much hurry for that. I've fallen in love with BP and am happy scooping 1.3 cc's into the funnel on my turret. I'm finally getting a tumbler to clean my brass today. Found one used for $30. And then I should be done spending money right? lol The money spending never stops in this sport, Grasshopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Holiday Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, Yul Lose said: The money spending never stops in this sport, Grasshopper. Yea... I've learned that haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLORADO JACKSON Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 12:38 PM, Rattler said: If you have a source for 38 spl brass at $30 per 1,000, I'll buy everything they can sell me. Please let me know. Thanks. I was thinking the same thing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 On 11/22/2019 at 3:48 PM, Croc Holiday said: Yea... I've learned that haha Try Northeast Shooter and Target Supply. I think that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 9:02 AM, Marshal Chance Morgun said: No one figured in the cost of the press and other needed items. The question I think you were really asking is "Does reloading save me money?" The answer is , Yes. The more you reload, the more you save. Do you save money reloading? The answer is no. Because we all know you will shoot just as much moneys worth (ie all we can afford) by reloading. So the question no longer becomes about saving money, but rather about being able to shoot more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mud Marine,SASS#54686 Life Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 I shoot everything I have so reloading just allows me to be able to afford to have more fun!!!! Anyway, finding sources for BP is hard and finding options for .50-140 3-1/4" is impossible. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Quote finding sources for BP is hard and finding options for .50-140 3-1/4" is impossible. Mud Marine ... All depends on hard you look, their not cheap either https://www.buffaloarms.com/50-140-50x3-1-4-sharps-black-powder-ammo-540-grain-lead-510-bullet-box-of-20-amobp50314515 https://www.northernshooterssupplies.com.au/50-Sharps-50-140-3-1-4-Unprimed-Brass-Cases-p/50s.htm https://www.rccbrass.com/?s=50-140+&post_type=product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramblin Randy Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I don't reload so I buy 38 special cowboy loads from Georgia Arms in bulk. Works out to 25 cents per round. I keep the brass and sell it for $4 per pound so my net cost is 21 cents per round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripsaw Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I figure $0.10 per round for .38s. Never calculated .45C, .45ACP, .44spl, C45S, etc. Don't load nearly as many of those as .38s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 one other thing i want to add here - you cannot put a price on the experience of loading and shooting your own rounds of whatever caliber you choose , there is so much satisfaction in that i cannot put into words , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, watab kid said: one other thing i want to add here - you cannot put a price on the experience of loading and shooting your own rounds of whatever caliber you choose , there is so much satisfaction in that i cannot put into words , Absolutely! Kaya and I both shot our deer this year with our homerolled ammo. Pretty cool to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 11/22/2019 at 4:10 AM, The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 said: The way I look at it, the primers and brass and bullets and powder all cost a little, but I know I'm saving money and I like doing it. That brings me to the time... I look at the above items like debits on the account and the time I spend doing it like a credit. People spend a lot of $$ on therapists, psychologists, counselors, massage, yoga, etc., I get my therapy from spending time with Mr. Dillon, some nice music and shut out the world. Time? Time is priceless and the time I spend reloading is invaluable to me. The music is a great idea. I'm going to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 11:02 AM, Marshal Chance Morgun said: No one figured in the cost of the press and other needed items. The question I think you were really asking is "Does reloading save me money?" The answer is , Yes. The more you reload, the more you save. When people ask me if I save any money by reloading I tell them NO but I shoot a whole lot more than I would if I didn't reload. Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 I was thinking the same thing..... https://www.nereloading.com/index.php/38-special-fired-brass-500-count-free-tumble-cleaning.html $105 for 3,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 I guess none of yall put a value on the time? I'm afraid to figure out what my cost per round will be for the first thousand I load. I'll have to include the cost of all the equipment too. That is certainly an issue most folks discount out of hand. For many of us, reloading is therapeutic. Or at least cathartic. I don't know very many folks that don't reload, but I did recently talk to a new shooter that was using factory 45 colt cowboy rounds. He buys them in bulk to the tune of I believe $20 a box. When folks tell him he will need to reload, his answer is overtime pays him around $80 an hour, so by his math, an hour of overtime is the same as spending an hour to reload 4 boxes without having to buy gear that takes up space and getting his hands dirty. As you get more into the city, lots of folks are apartment dwellers and don't have the space for reloading gear as well. He's pretty busy so he only shoots once a month or less and it works for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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