Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 8 hours ago, Alpo said: There's a couple of reasons for that. First - the store is(STORIES) on that list are all adult sci-fi. Starship Troopers is a juvenile. He wrote a dozen books under contract, one a year, for this publishing house "young adult"line. Rocket Ship Galileo (1947) Space Cadet (1948) Red Planet (1949) Farmer in the Sky (1950) Between Planets (1951) The Rolling Stones (1952) Starman Jones (1953) The Star Beast (1954) Tunnel in the Sky (1955) Time for the Stars (1956) Citizen of the Galaxy (1957) Have Space Suit—Will Travel (1958) Starship Troopers (1959) The second reason is chronological. The list was published in 1941. Starship Troopers was written in 1959. The number of the beast was written in 1980. Hard to put something on a list when it won't be written for a decade or more. I have a just-turned-thirteen year old grand-niece who recently discovered Heinlein. And I've collected a bunch of the titles on that list from local used book stores, prob'ly out in the mail in a day or two. Still looking for "Podkayne" and "Space Suit." 🙂 2 Quote
Rip Snorter Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Steer clear of the last couple, he still wrote well but got more woke then I cared for even some decades back. 1 Quote
Alpo Posted March 25 Posted March 25 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: I have a just-turned-thirteen year old grand-niece who recently discovered Heinlein. And I've collected a bunch of the titles on that list from local used book stores, prob'ly out in the mail in a day or two. Still looking for "Podkayne" and "Space Suit." 🙂 There are two short stories with a girl as the protagonist. Puddin' Poor Daddy, and Bulletin Board. And there's a novella. A Tenderfoot in Space. Originally published in Boys Life, and then never published again until after he died. It's about a family that immigrates to Venus. Sold almost everything they had to get the money for passage. And the boy did not want to go because he could not take his dog. Excellent story. Edited March 25 by Alpo 2 1 Quote
John Kloehr Posted March 26 Posted March 26 While Starship Troopers was written for a young audience, it has an adult theme about citizenship, duty, and freedom. I was a bit disturbed by the terroristic bombs announcing pending detonation, even though the bugs showed no mercy at all towards people. The movie was just about killing bugs. The book was still formative for me as a teenager and part of why I became a US citizen. The original Flight of the Phoenix was a great character study (boring for a young audience), the remake was a summer crap film (boring for an adult). 4 Quote
J-BAR #18287 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 I don't see my favorite Heinlein novel listed: Puppet Masters. My high school aged cousin loaned me his copy when I was still in elementary school; adults in our family didn't read science fiction, so I was thrilled to be deemed worthy! And it is yet another book that didn't fare well on the screen. If you saw the movie but haven't read the book, your loss. 2 Quote
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, John Kloehr said: The movie was just about killing bugs. The book was still formative for me as a teenager and part of why I became a US citizen. The original Flight of the Phoenix was a great character study (boring for a young audience), the remake was a summer crap film (boring for an adult). 13 minutes ago, J-BAR #18287 said: And it is yet another book that didn't fare well on the screen. If you saw the movie but haven't read the book, your loss. It usually, it appears to me, that whenever a book is made into a movie, whoever does so want to "put his own spin" on the story, as though they think that even though the book is so popular that it's now going to be a movie, the author didn't get it quite right. News flash for any Hollywierd type that thinks that, YOU'RE WRONG!!! The one exception I can think of was the PBS "Mystery" series of Sherlock Holmes. They did about 40 of the stories back in the '80s, and IMNSHO, they did them right. 2 Quote
Subdeacon Joe Posted March 26 Posted March 26 2 hours ago, John Kloehr said: While Starship Troopers was written for a young audience, it has an adult theme about citizenship, duty, and freedom. Along with that is "The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress." A lot of interest stuff about government and human behavior. 3 Quote
DeaconKC Posted March 26 Posted March 26 "Friday" had a female android as the protagonist, if she would count. 1 Quote
Subdeacon Joe Posted March 26 Posted March 26 3 hours ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: Still looking for "Podkayne" and "Space Suit." https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/podkayne-of-mars_robert-a-heinlein/433675/#idiq=2503115&edition=2176202 7 bucks plus 2 bucks shipping. They also have "Space Suit" for 20 bucks. Also check Amazon. Quote
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said: https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/podkayne-of-mars_robert-a-heinlein/433675/#idiq=2503115&edition=2176202 7 bucks plus 2 bucks shipping. They also have "Space Suit" for 20 bucks. Also check Amazon. More from Thriftbooks: https://www.thriftbooks.com/browse/?b.search=Robert A. Heinlein#b.s=mostPopular-desc&b.p=1&b.pp=50&b.oos&b.tile Edited March 26 by Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 2 1 Quote
Subdeacon Joe Posted March 26 Posted March 26 3 hours ago, Rip Snorter said: Steer clear of the last couple, he still wrote well but got more woke then I cared for even some decades back. He was quite libertarian, anti-religion, and seemed to have no problem with polygamous relationships. A lot of far right militarists, the kind who parrotted from "Starship Troopers" about not being able to vote unless you did federal service, ended up denouncing him for his views. 1 Quote
Rip Snorter Posted March 26 Posted March 26 The last 2 or 3 Heinlein books a hard turn to the left, IMHO and I am a great fan of the man. See if the young woman likes H. Piper Beam. Some wonderful stuff right to the last. 1 Quote
Alpo Posted March 26 Posted March 26 (edited) 39 minutes ago, DeaconKC said: "Friday" had a female android as the protagonist, if she would count. Freddy was not an Android. She was a test tube baby. Edit: FREDDY??? Damn otto. FRIDAY was not an android. Edited March 26 by Alpo 1 2 Quote
Alpo Posted March 26 Posted March 26 33 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Along with that is "The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress." A lot of interest stuff about government and human behavior. Did you notice that The Moon is a prequel to one of his juveniles. The Rolling Stones. In Moon there's this little girl. "Redhead, no cushions". "She's still a boy". Hazel Mead. Hazel eventually marries into the Stone family. But even though she is only 11 or 12 years old she is one of the founding fathers of Luna Free State. Signed the Declaration of Independence and everything. The Rolling Stones is about a three generation family. Grandma Hazel, her son Roger and his wife, and their four children - the daughter Mead, the twins Casper and Pollux, and the baby boy Buster. I say baby but he's about five I think. The twins are 15 or 16. I don't know if the daughter is older or younger than them. Don't recall. There's a part where the entire family is wearing their spacesuits, standing at the airlock waiting to go on the surface. Some tourists are coming in, and one of the female tourists says to her husband - "look at that little man over there. He's wearing a gun!!!" And Mama asked Grandma why she wore a gun. And Grandma Hazel said she wore a gun because it was her right. She knew it was her right to carry a gun because she put it in the Constitution. Then we had a sequel - The Cat Who Walked Through Walls. I guess that would be a sequel. Grandma Hazel, some two or three hundred years later. 4 Quote
DeaconKC Posted March 26 Posted March 26 22 minutes ago, Alpo said: Freddy was not an Android. She was a test tube baby. Edit: FREDDY??? Damn otto. FRIDAY was not an android. Crud, it has been many years [decades?] since reading it. 1 Quote
Subdeacon Joe Posted March 26 Posted March 26 9 minutes ago, Buckshot Bear said: Strawberry coulis and white chocolate curls. 1 2 Quote
John Kloehr Posted March 27 Posted March 27 3 minutes ago, Alpo said: You win the Internet today. 4 5 Quote
Dapper Dave Posted March 27 Posted March 27 On 3/25/2025 at 8:02 PM, Alpo said: Did you notice that The Moon is a prequel to one of his juveniles. The Rolling Stones. In Moon there's this little girl. "Redhead, no cushions". "She's still a boy". Hazel Mead. Hazel eventually marries into the Stone family. But even though she is only 11 or 12 years old she is one of the founding fathers of Luna Free State. Signed the Declaration of Independence and everything. The Rolling Stones is about a three generation family. Grandma Hazel, her son Roger and his wife, and their four children - the daughter Mead, the twins Casper and Pollux, and the baby boy Buster. I say baby but he's about five I think. The twins are 15 or 16. I don't know if the daughter is older or younger than them. Don't recall. There's a part where the entire family is wearing their spacesuits, standing at the airlock waiting to go on the surface. Some tourists are coming in, and one of the female tourists says to her husband - "look at that little man over there. He's wearing a gun!!!" And Mama asked Grandma why she wore a gun. And Grandma Hazel said she wore a gun because it was her right. She knew it was her right to carry a gun because she put it in the Constitution. Then we had a sequel - The Cat Who Walked Through Walls. I guess that would be a sequel. Grandma Hazel, some two or three hundred years later. Woulda been better if she hadn't opened the charge holder and pulled out a cough drop... 1 Quote
Alpo Posted March 27 Posted March 27 4 hours ago, Dapper Dave said: Woulda been better if she hadn't opened the charge holder and pulled out a cough drop... This is true Quote
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 hours ago, Buckshot Bob said: One time when I was getting a prostate for a Flightline Physical, the Dr. had me bent over the table and was just getting started. He had one hand on my shoulder, and the other hand where it needed to be. Suddenly I felt a hand on my OTHER shoulder. I yelled and spun around ready to damage me a Squid, only to find that a Corpsman had come into the Exam Room to assist the Dr. 1 4 Quote
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