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[Subdeacon Joe]

On 2/23/2025 at 7:48 PM, Buckshot Bear said:

 

Use a rich dough (milk and eggs in it), spread with a sweet bechemel sauce,  add grated white chocolate or butterscotch  chips, top with sliced banana, dust with cinnamon and nutmeg. 

 

Edited March 22 by Subdeacon Joe

[Subdeacon Joe]

3 hours ago, Linn Keller, SASS 27332, BOLD 103 said:

A Northern Ohio University ... I think it was Brother Thomas ... a native French speaker who taught Spanish, and spoke it well ... but he stopped the class and asked in honest puzzlement, "Why are you all speaking Spanish with a French accent?"

He was genuinely surprised when the class replied "But Brother Thomas ... that's how you speak it!"

I understand Arnold Schwarzenegger was asked about his Austrian accent.

He could not resist hamming up his answer ... "Ahkhsent?  Vhat akhsent?"

 

In high-school one of  y Spanish teachers was from Chicago.   In spite of living in California for the better part of 30 years he retained his Chicago accent.   So we all started picking up his Chicago-Spanish with Barcelona undertones accent .

[Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062]

On 3/5/2025 at 12:27 PM, Alpo said:

 

I saw the same sign on the back of a Toyota Land Cruiser (soccer mum/ grocery getter/ take the children to school) station wagon  in a supermarket parking lot just yesterday  🤪

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3 hours ago, Buckshot Bob said:

I have watched 12 Monkeys several times. I think it took three times to even begin to understand it. That will start in three more years.

 

Don't think it will really take as long as the dates to get to 5th Element. TikTok "influencers" are already here. See Ruby Rhod in the movie:

 

 

I was shocked and could not even process it the first time I saw this.

 

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[Subdeacon Joe]

7 hours ago, Buckshot Bob said:

 

Compare to Heinlein's stories:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_History_(Heinlein)#List_of_stories

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

54 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

Compare to Heinlein's stories:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_History_(Heinlein)#List_of_stories

In "Starship Troopers" he mentions "Back in the XXth century.  And in "The Number of the Beast" when they are looking at a American History book from an alternate reality, Zeb is startled to see that many years ago there was a President Carter. But I don't remember it getting any more specific than that. 

[Alpo]

1 hour ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

American History book from an alternate reality, Zeb is startled to see that many years ago there was a President Carter. But I don't remember it getting any more specific than that. 

He also questioned who Eisenhower was. Says he had one of MacArthur's terms and one of Patton's.

[Subdeacon Joe]

1 hour ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

In "Starship Troopers" he mentions "Back in the XXth century.  And in "The Number of the Beast" when they are looking at a American History book from an alternate reality, Zeb is startled to see that many years ago there was a President Carter. But I don't remember it getting any more specific than that. 

 

 

https://minerva.fandom.com/wiki/Future_History_Timeline

 

There is a copy of the chart that Heinlein made,  and which was published in 1941.

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

19 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

https://minerva.fandom.com/wiki/Future_History_Timeline

 

There is a copy of the chart that Heinlein made,  and which was published in 1941.

I didn't see "Starship Troopers" or "The Number of the Beast" on there.

[Alpo]

9 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

I didn't see "Starship Troopers" or "The Number of the Beast" on there.

There's a couple of reasons for that.

 

First - the store is(STORIES) on that list are all adult sci-fi. Starship Troopers is a juvenile. He wrote a dozen books under contract, one a year, for this publishing house "young adult"line.

 

 

    Rocket Ship Galileo (1947)
    Space Cadet (1948)
    Red Planet (1949)
    Farmer in the Sky (1950)
    Between Planets (1951)
    The Rolling Stones (1952)
    Starman Jones (1953)
    The Star Beast (1954)
    Tunnel in the Sky (1955)
    Time for the Stars (1956)
    Citizen of the Galaxy (1957)
    Have Space Suit—Will Travel (1958)
    Starship Troopers (1959)

 

The second reason is chronological. The list was published in 1941. Starship Troopers was written in 1959. The number of the beast was written in 1980.

 

Hard to put something on a list when it won't be written for a decade or more.

Edited March 25 by Alpo

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[Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474]

Always signs telling me what I can't do!

[Subdeacon Joe]

2 hours ago, Alpo said:

First - the store is(STORIES) on that list are all adult sci-fi. Starship Troopers is a juvenile. He wrote a dozen books under contract, one a year, for this publishing house "young adult"line.

 

 

    Rocket Ship Galileo (1947)
    Space Cadet (1948)
    Red Planet (1949)
    Farmer in the Sky (1950)
    Between Planets (1951)
    The Rolling Stones (1952)
    Starman Jones (1953)
    The Star Beast (1954)
    Tunnel in the Sky (1955)
    Time for the Stars (1956)
    Citizen of the Galaxy (1957)
    Have Space Suit—Will Travel (1958)
    Starship Troopers (1959)

 

Also,  most of the stories on that time-line are short stories for the pulps rather than novels or even novellas.  

 

Odd that you left "Podkayne of Mars" off your list of juvenile science fiction.

 

 

"Starship Troopers" is an excellent novel,  and got turned into a movie even worse than "Dune."   

[Alpo]

53 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

"Starship Troopers" is an excellent novel,  and got turned into a movie even worse than "Dune."   

And that is saying something.

 

53 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

Odd that you left "Podkayne of Mars" off your list of juvenile science fiction

Many people consider that one of them but I've read that Heinlein didn't think it was.

 

Also, the hero of the other 12 is a guy. Podkayne is a girl. That is a big switch - going from 12 male heroes to a female.

[Texas Joker]

Later in his career Heinlein did that switch to characters a lot. Male to female.

[Subdeacon Joe]

35 minutes ago, Alpo said:

Many people consider that one of them but I've read that Heinlein didn't think it was.

 

Also, the hero of the other 12 is a guy. Podkayne is a girl. That is a big switch - going from 12 male heroes to a female.

 

If my memory is correct, always iffy now, he had been asked by one of the pulps to write something in the juvenile/young adult genera with a female protagonist. So he took a stab at it.  15 Earth year old Podkayne and her 11 Earth year old terror of a brother, Clark.  The publisher didn't care for the original ending in which Podkayne was killed and demanded a rewrite with a happier ending.  RAH strongly objected to it, comparing it to doing a rewrite of "Romeo and Juliet" to allow the young, lust besotted teens to live and marry.  

I just found this: 

 

1963’s Podkayne of Mars was, if Heinlein’s comments in Grumbles from the Grave can be believed, not intended as a juvenile:

March 10, 1962: Robert A. Heinlein to Lurton Blassingame

Is Poddy a juvenile? I didn’t think of it as such and I suggest that it violates numerous taboos for the juvenile market. It seems to me that it is what the Swedes call a “cadet” book — upper teenage, plus such adults and juveniles as may enjoy it — and the American trade book market does not recognize such a category.

as I was making sure of how old Podkayne was in the book.  So he didn't think of it as "juvenile science fiction" not so much because of the age, but because it didn't fit the established "rules" for the category.  I'd never heard of a "cadet" category before.  Seems as if a lot of "juvenile" books in the US would more neatly fit that than true juvenile books.  Almost all of his male protagonists seem to me to be late teens or young adults.

 

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3 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

Starship Troopers" is an excellent novel,  and got turned into a movie even worse than "Dune."   

It's a very rare movie that is better than the book.