Quizcat Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 What's the average cost to send off your revolvers to somebody that has a widely known skilled reputation for tuning SAA revolvers for CAS competition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoky Pistols Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 You will probably need to include more specifics. For instance: 1) What are they? Cap n ball, Colts, Rugers, Piettas 2) What do you want done? Tune them, smooth them out, time them, hammer conversion, cylinder conversions, cap rakes, transfer bar removal, etc.. 3) What is your ultimate goal? Speed, smoothness, style points, ease of operation, etc. You might be better off to ask for people that have a good reputation for quality work and, once you have two or three names, talk to them personally to determine what you are trying to accomplish and what you can afford. The reason I say this is because you can buy a pistol for $200 and easily spend $600 getting it modified in all sorts of ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rider Rudy Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Ballpark $125 - $250 per gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Shapiro Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 The cost of the gunsmith is nothing compared to the cost of practice ammo. reliability above all else. doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Chance Morgun Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 IIRC, you are thinking about Uberti's? Can't help you there. My wife's new model Rugers were about $300 ea. plus shipping. Rugers were about $220 ea. Two different smiths. And my smith shoots with our club, so I didn't have to ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 About 200.00 per gun is about normal . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Angus McPherson Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 23 minutes ago, Doc Shapiro said: The cost of the gunsmith is nothing compared to the cost of practice ammo. reliability above all else. doc "Practice" ammo? Is that a special kind of evernay issmay stealth ammo? So, if I spend the extra money on "practice" ammo I won't miss as much as I do shooting my regular reloads? I've got to find out where to get this black magic ammo. Ooo, important question, can I get it loaded with Black Powder? Man, I've still got a lot to learn about this game. My so called "friends" never mentioned this secret to me. I thought cowboys didn't keep secrets. Angus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just to SEND THEM is about $130.00, one way, from you to your gunsmith. See Below Your FFL can send handguns via US Mail. You may not ship handguns via US Mail. That cost is about $20.00 for a USPS Large Flat-Rate Box, plus about $35 or $40 for insurance. (That may be a tad high or low...depends on the guns’ declared value). Your local FFL fee to you should be $50-$70. Make sure YOUR LOCAL FFL fee is for his services to send and receive back, too So, —- total “shipping and handling” fees would be (one way), about $130.00. Thus DOES NOT include shipping and handling for shipment back to your FFL by the gunsmith. So that is something else to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Unless you finish in the top 10% constantly, save the $$$ for ammo and practice time. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 The scene from “Smokey and the Bandit” comes to mind where Burt says “I’ll need a car to run interference.” [rich guy’s flunky counts out a stack of bills]. ”A fast car.” [flunky counts out more bills into Burt’s hand] ”Faster than that.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Don't know if there is an "average" cost. It would be best to just call the gunsmith of your choice and talk to them about what you want. Several gunsmiths with websites publish their rates. Such as Jimmy Spurs: Cowboy Gun Works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Cat Brules said: Just to SEND THEM is about $130.00, one way, from you to your gunsmith. See Below Your FFL can send handguns via US Mail. You may not ship handguns via US Mail. That cost is about $20.00 for a USPS Large Flat-Rate Box, plus about $35 or $40 for insurance. (That may be a tad high or low...depends on the guns’ declared value). Your local FFL fee to you should be $50-$70. Make sure YOUR LOCAL FFL fee is for his services to send and receive back, too So, —- total “shipping and handling” fees would be (one way), about $130.00. Thus DOES NOT include shipping and handling for shipment back to your FFL by the gunsmith. So that is something else to consider. My FFL will ship my guns anywhere(1 exception) for $15 + actual shipping/insurance cost; I typically figure that out ahead of time and give him that and a little extra and tell him to keep the change. The gunsmith can ship your guns back to you directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Cat Brules said: Just to SEND THEM is about $130.00, one way, from you to your gunsmith. See Below Your FFL can send handguns via US Mail. You may not ship handguns via US Mail. That cost is about $20.00 for a USPS Large Flat-Rate Box, plus about $35 or $40 for insurance. (That may be a tad high or low...depends on the guns’ declared value). Your local FFL fee to you should be $50-$70. Make sure YOUR LOCAL FFL fee is for his services to send and receive back, too So, —- total “shipping and handling” fees would be (one way), about $130.00. Thus DOES NOT include shipping and handling for shipment back to your FFL by the gunsmith. So that is something else to consider. Quizcat has an FFL. So shipping shouldn't be much a problem for him. Deciding which gunsmith and what he actually wants done to the guns might be the biggest hurdle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fence Cutter Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667 said: The scene from “Smokey and the Bandit” comes to mind where Burt says “I’ll need a car to run interference.” [rich guy’s flunky counts out a stack of bills]. ”A fast car.” [flunky counts out more bills into Burt’s hand] ”Faster than that.” Kinda like having a race horse or a cuttin' horse at the trainers....... "One more month out'a really make a difference on him."...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Okay folks, that’s wha it costs me here. YMMV FACTS ARE: USPS Flat rate box is the same to all USPS Insurance on $3k in firearms is $40+ ——- That mileage won’t vary. If you’re getting some extra special deal from a local federal firearms licensee, then good on you. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quizcat Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 hours ago, McCandless said: Quizcat has an FFL. So shipping shouldn't be much a problem for him. Deciding which gunsmith and what he actually wants done to the guns might be the biggest hurdle. Yep, you've been payin' close attention. I should have been more specific. I ship handguns via USPS Flat Rate, usually under about $25.00, insured, What I really should have asked is for some referals to some gunsmith's that specialize in CAS, and about what to expect as far as cost. I have enough experience as an FFL over the last 40 years to know better than to take it to just anyone claiming to be a "good gunsmith." I have my own "good gunsmiths" pegged for most things, but I think this CAS stuff is kind of a specialty. There are too many "gunsmiths" that hang out a shingle that wouldn't be qualified to address CAS tuning. I figured I would be wisest to inquire with the guys that are really into CAS, and have had the experience of having their guns tuned...the guys on the Wire came immediately to mind. I'm thinking I'll start out with the Ruger #5159, KNV34FD New Vaquero 357/38spl, Talo, 4-5/8" barrel, Stainless, with the short/wide hammer spur. But, they're still made on a production line, need to be tightened up a bit, springs, polishing, etc...for smoother, and tighter function. I figured maybe I can send them off to be tuned while I'm recovering from surgery. I'll check into Cowboy Gun Works, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major BS Walker Regulator Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Quality work with just a standard action job will cost a minimum of 300.00 per gun without shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Another option is to purchase the revolvers from a gunsmith with the action work already done. Longhunter Shooting Supply is one such source. The New Vaqueros are not bad out of the box. Most rifles need action work. The shotguns do for sure. Not as necessary with revolvers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Quizcat said: I'm thinking I'll start out with the Ruger #5159, KNV34FD New Vaquero 357/38spl, Talo, 4-5/8" barrel, Stainless, with the short/wide hammer spur. But, they're still made on a production line, need to be tightened up a bit, springs, polishing, etc...for smoother, and tighter function. I figured maybe I can send them off to be tuned while I'm recovering from surgery. I'll check into Cowboy Gun Works, thanks! There are several gunsmiths who can do all the work, including short-stroke on Ruger Revolvers. Three Cut Cowboy Gun Works Shotgun Boogie Western Gun Works Boomstick Arms Lassiter and more... All these are run by Cowboy shooters and know what we need/want for the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Chance Morgun Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Quizcat said: I'm thinking I'll start out with the Ruger #5159, KNV34FD New Vaquero 357/38spl, Talo, 4-5/8" barrel, Stainless, with the short/wide hammer spur. But, they're still made on a production line, need to be tightened up a bit, springs, polishing, etc...for smoother, and tighter function. I figured maybe I can send them off to be tuned while I'm recovering from surgery. I'll check into Cowboy Gun Works, thanks! Nothing wrong with Jimmy Spurs, but you might want to check with Cowboy Carty, too. (Western Gun Works) My wife had Jimmy work hers. I had Carty do mine. Both are silky smooth, but they have a totally different feel when you pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 A well-known smith just quoted $800 to race my two OMVs: short-stroke, tune and lighten, 11 degree forcing cones, brass front sights, sighted in for 10 yards with my loads. Probably a good deal for that amount of work, but it was just easier to buy a new pair of Pietta 1951 Navies and spread the wear and tear for the next several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quizcat Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 What got me started thinking about the Rugers needing to be tuned was this You Tube video, which concentrated mostly on Colt SAA and Ruger SAA revolvers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW_nYCgPsgQ&t=36s I didn't have time to watch the whole video yet, since it's about three hours long. But, after having watched about an hour of the video, it illustrated to me areas where the Rugers, as production-line revolvers, probably need some attention to make them run smoother, and tighter for accuracy, even though the gunsmith in the video admits the Rugers are probably the most durable and desireable of the CAS production line revolvers right out of the box. Anybody know the name of the gunsmith, and/or the gunsmith's shop, that 's affiliated with the video? I think he must be located in Missouri, where I live, based on things he mentioned in the video that suggested he is located in Missouri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Larry Crow Competitive Edge Gunworks Bogard Missouri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Chance Morgun Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 While accuracy truly is a good thing in shooting, you don't need to hit 16" x 16" steel plate set 3 to 5 yards out dead center when you're looking out shoot as fast as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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