Diablo 12ga sxs pistol

[Boomstick Bruce 663]

Has anyone seen or have one of these? I kind of want one!!!

 

https://americanguncraft.com/product/diablo-break-open-blued-finish-12-gauge-pistol-rosewood-grip/

 

I think it would be a hoot!!!

[Red Wolf 59]

I bet you that thing shoots out some serious flames.  How do you not need an FFL to buy that?  It's apparently CA compliant too.

 

Red Wolf

[St. Louis Suomi SASS #31905 219]

Uses 209 primer - black powder  is is fuel.

 

STL Suomi

[Arizona Gunfighter 212]

38 minutes ago, Red Wolf said:

I bet you that thing shoots out some serious flames.  How do you not need an FFL to buy that?  It's apparently CA compliant too.

 

Red Wolf

It uses black powder, no FFL needed.

[Sedalia Dave 7,905]

x

[Turkey Flats Jack 400]

as neat as it looks dont think i'd be pulling the trigger on something like that. 

[The Original Lumpy Gritz 6,250]

An answer to a question, that was never asked.......

OLG

[Boomstick Bruce 663]

1 hour ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said:

An answer to a question, that was never asked.......

OLG

nobody ever asked "can i own a 6 inch barrel 12 gauge sxs thats legal in CA?"

[Assassin 1,163]

Yeah, I could see a pair of those in my safe. 

[Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 3,452]

Twenty-first century Howdah Pistol.  

 

    

 

[Pat Riot, SASS #13748 15,231]

Boomstick, please reconsider. 
 

Signed,

Your wrist in 15-20 years. 

[Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 3,452]

 

1 hour ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

Boomstick, please reconsider. 
 

Signed,

Your wrist in 15-20 years. 

 

Now, Pat... if you wuz sittin' up in your howdah and your elephant was trying futilely to shake that tiger off his leg while it was crawling upward, intent on chompin' yo' butt for supper, you'd be more'n happy to have that thing in your hands!   

[Forty Rod SASS 3935 4,716]

I need one of those about as much as I need mumps.

[Pat Riot, SASS #13748 15,231]

6 hours ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said:

 

 

Now, Pat... if you wuz sittin' up in your howdah and your elephant was trying futilely to shake that tiger off his leg while it was crawling upward, intent on chompin' yo' butt for supper, you'd be more'n happy to have that thing in your hands!   

But, but, my elephant’s in the shop and I can’t afford the bill. I may never get him back...

 

 

 

 

[Henry T Harrison 890]

I don’t have any need for one but I sure want one 

[Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 3,452]

7 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

But, but, my elephant’s in the shop and I can’t afford the bill. I may never get him back...

 

But... but... but elephants don't have bills ~ they have trunks!  

 

(Don't have hoods or glove compartments either, I don't think. ) 

[Doc X 259]

New type of derringer side match?

[Utah Bob #35998 10,667]

20 hours ago, Turkey Flats Jack said:

as neat as it looks dont think i'd be pulling the trigger on something like that. 

Depends on how much BP you stuff in it. 
I’d keep it around 50 gns of 2f I think. The Shotgun Nation review shooting it at 15 yards was silly. I think it’s a 10 yard gun max.

 

[Utah Bob #35998 10,667]

14 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

I need one of those about as much as I need mumps.

Ditto.......but still.....

[Pat Riot, SASS #13748 15,231]

18 hours ago, Boomstick Bruce said:

nobody ever asked "can i own a 6 inch barrel 12 gauge sxs thats legal in CA?"

They claim it's legal in CA, but I can assure you it ain't. It is a handgun in appearance so calling it "any other weapon" does not cut it with the CA DOJ. It's  either a handgun or it's a long gun. There are no in-betweens here in La-La-Land.

 

It would be considered a "sawed of shotgun". You cannot by a Taurus Judge here or that S&W Governor. They are not allowed.

 

For your head shaking pleasure: 

https://www.oag.ca.gov/firearms/certified-handguns/search

[Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 2,844]

8 hours ago, Henry T Harrison said:

I don’t have any need for one but I sure want one 

As a back-up?

[Tyrel Cody 4,300]

13 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

They claim it's legal in CA, but I can assure you it ain't. It is a handgun in appearance so calling it "any other weapon" does not cut it with the CA DOJ. It's  either a handgun or it's a long gun. There are no in-betweens here in La-La-Land.

 

It would be considered a "sawed of shotgun". You cannot by a Taurus Judge here or that S&W Governor. They are not allowed.

 

For your head shaking pleasure: 

https://www.oag.ca.gov/firearms/certified-handguns/search

 

BP muzzleloader, why is that not legal there?

[Pat Riot, SASS #13748 15,231]

38 minutes ago, Tyrel Cody said:

 

BP muzzleloader, why is that not legal there?

Because it is for shot, like a sawed off shotgun.

[Tyrel Cody 4,300]

Just now, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

Because it is for shot shells. 

 

It's a muzzle loader, it doesn't take hulls/shells. Or am I misunderstanding what a muzzle loader is?

 

[Alpo 4,420]

This was put out by the NRA twenty years ago.

 

 

NRA-ILA FAX ALERT
11250 Waples Mill Road * Fairfax, VA 22030
Phone: 1-800-392-8683 * Fax: 703-267-3918 * GROOTS@NRA.org

Vol. 4, No. 50 12/12/97

BATF CLASSIFIES SOME "IN LINE" MUZZLELOADERS AS "FIREARMS"

According to an Industry Circular sent out to all FFL
holders last week by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms,
muzzleloaders "with in-line firing mechanisms designed or
redesigned to use modern conventional firearm primers DO NOT meet
the definition of antique firearms, and are therefore now subject
to regulation as a "firearm." The issue revolves around the
definition of "modern ammunition," in which BATF classifies a
primer, by itself, as ammunition. BATF is operating under the
premise that if a "modern primer" is used anywhere in the firing
mechanism, then the firearm is "modern," and thus, not subject to
the 1898 exemption for antiques or replicas. "Primers are not an
antique ignition system and are ammunition subject regulation,"

 

 

That thingy uses shotgun primers.

 

Sounds like ATF would say it's a modern firearm.

[Pat Riot, SASS #13748 15,231]

52 minutes ago, Tyrel Cody said:

 

It's a muzzle loader, it doesn't take hulls/shells. Or am I misunderstanding what a muzzle loader is?

 

No, you are misunderstanding what CA classified as a sawed off shotgun. 

[Boomstick Bruce 663]

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN&sectionNum=16170

 

 

[Hillbilly Drifter 883]

6 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

 

Really? You are member #12345 with only one post under your belt?

Pretty sure that is a made up number....

[Pat Riot, SASS #13748 15,231]

9 minutes ago, Hillbilly Drifter said:

Pretty sure that is a made up number....

Yep, that's why I reported it.

[Charlie Harley, #14153 1,656]

If that were somehow a cartridge-shooting, BATFE-legal, SxS version of Mossberg’s Shockwave, I’d be tempted to get excited. 

 

But as it stands, I’ll just pass. I can have as much fun with my Bond and some creative BP loads. 

[Alpo 4,420]

You mean like this?

 

 

[Sedalia Dave 7,905]

Don't worry, after the Pyrodex has its way with that thing it will never work again.