Lawdog Dago Dom Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Starting to take a shine to this wet tumbling (pun intended). Used 2 ounces of brass juice, pinch of Lemi Shine and a drop of blue Dawn. No pins. 3 hour tumble. This was 223 brass I found that was fired around 1985. It was in a paper sack in dad's basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 That remains me. I have a batch in the Frankford Arsenal tumbler about ready to take out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Midway has a sale on the Frankford platinum model right now. They also offer free shipping, again right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, bgavin said: Midway has a sale on the Frankford platinum model right now. They also offer free shipping, again right now. Check close on the free shipping. Often items on sale don't qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I did just that... been playing the Midway Shipping Game for a long time. The whole order (Dewey stuff, Starline brass, etc) and the tumbler are free shipping. Midway won't honor that with bullets or ammo. We can't buy ammo in CA anymore from Midway, so this is a non-problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/6/2019 at 5:21 PM, Lawdog Dago Dom said: Starting to take a shine to this wet tumbling (pun intended). Used 2 ounces of brass juice, pinch of Lemi Shine Which Lemi Shine product? I looked them up and found over a dozen different Lemi Shine thingys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Shooter Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 @McCandless this is the one I use Lemi Shine. Remember a little goes a long way, I use maybe a 1/4 teaspoon in a Frankfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Tequila Chase said: @McCandless this is the one I use Lemi Shine. Remember a little goes a long way, I use maybe a 1/4 teaspoon in a Frankfort. And I hear if you really don't need it unless you have hard water. We have hard water so I've always used it. Also, it's readily available at your local stores where dish soap is sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Hochbauer, SASS #64409 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I have had a love hate relationship with this tumbler since I gotten it. The last batch I did was the first time I used a bit of the Lemi Shine......what an amazing difference that it made. My results have previously been clean but dull brass. Not that the dull brass makes any difference especially since I shoot BP. That said I am still not getting rid of my dry tumbler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdog Dago Dom Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 11 hours ago, Tequila Chase said: @McCandless this is the one I use Lemi Shine. Remember a little goes a long way, I use maybe a 1/4 teaspoon in a Frankfort. Yep. That's the stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 22 hours ago, McCandless said: Which Lemi Shine product? I looked them up and found over a dozen different Lemi Shine thingys. Yul Lose has been advising us for some time to also use Strata-Sheen. Wow! I ordered some from Rio Grande and tried it yesterday on some .38s, using it with two drops of Dawn and a half-teaspoon of Lemi Shine (no SS rod media). Fantastic results, both inside and out. Thanks to YL for some great advice. Try it. Yul like it a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Best to deprime before a wet tumble. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Best to deprime before a wet tumble. OLG I never deprime and have never had a problem. That’s why god created sizer dies with decapping pins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Yul Lose said: I never deprime and have never had a problem. That’s why god created sizer dies with decapping pins. If you deprime first-The primer pocket comes out as clean as the rest of the case. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: If you deprime first-The primer pocket comes out as clean as the rest of the case. OLG If I ever run into a problem where my primer pockets aren’t clean enough I’ll do it. I haven’t had that problem yet. I’m looking for less work not more. Lots of other things I’d rather do than deprime brass that doesn’t need to be deprimed before I reload it. If I’m going to deprime my primers I might as well start using the steel pins or ceramic media, no ain’t gonna happen I’m trying to get out of work. Nice try but no cigar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Yul Lose said: If I ever run into a problem where my primer pockets aren’t clean enough I’ll do it. I haven’t had that problem yet. I’m looking for less work not more. Lots of other things I’d rather do than deprime brass that doesn’t need to be deprimed before I reload it. If I’m going to deprime my primers I might as well start using the steel pins or ceramic media, no ain’t gonna happen I’m trying to get out of work. Nice try but no cigar. Get's me out of household chores...... I found it very beneficial for match grade ammo in both BP and 'white' powder. I use ceramic media for all case cleaning now. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Square Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 is ceramic media better than stainless? I'm about to buy the rebel 17 - do I get ss or ceramic media? what about media separators ? no, im not building one, midway USA has several that fit in a bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Get's me out of household chores...... I found it very beneficial for match grade ammo in both BP and 'white' powder. I use ceramic media for all case cleaning now. OLG Knock yourself out. I’m not building match grade ammo so clean primer pockets ain’t big on my reloading radar. I used to use ceramic media for case cleaning also but one day I tried it without the ceramic media and it was like I had this big WOW moment when I emptied the cases out of the tumbler and they were just as bright and shiny as if I’d just opened up a new box of Starline 44-40 brass but the dang primer pockets weren’t as clean so I knew immediately that some folks were gonna think my brass cleaning method was sub par and I said to my self “Yul, if SASS ever starts having primer pockets cleanliness inspections you’re gonna fail”. So I’m pretty sure that any day now the ROC is gonna come out with this edict that when you show up at any SASS sanctioned match you have to turn 5 loaded rounds over to the sign up police for them to hammer out the bullets, measure your powder type and amount and punch out your primers so that they can see how clean your primer pockets are. PWB is gonna pin a thread outlining the exact process to be followed in this primer pocket inspection campaign. Anyway OLG, I ain’t going to start depriming my cases before I clean my brass without steel pins or ceramic media because somebody gets their jollies by depriming brass, I don’t, I’d rather make sawdust or something. I equate depriming brass right up there with getting a root canal, something I’m doing on Tuesday and I’ll let you know which I enjoyed more, depriming 500 brass cases or getting a root canal. So now you know there is a line in the sand, those that do deprime before they clean and those few that don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, T-Square said: is ceramic media better than stainless? I'm about to buy the rebel 17 - do I get ss or ceramic media? what about media separators ? no, im not building one, midway USA has several that fit in a bucket. If you do it my way you don’t need a media separator. Mine is home to cobwebs and lizards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, T-Square said: is ceramic media better than stainless? I'm about to buy the rebel 17 - do I get ss or ceramic media? what about media separators ? no, im not building one, midway USA has several that fit in a bucket. Ceramic is easier to separate from the cases. I use a Dillon case separator. Yul, best of luck with that root canal. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Yul Lose said: I never deprime and have never had a problem. That’s why god created sizer dies with decapping pins. Agree. I don't deprime either. In fact I think I might like a little crud on the pocket sides to sort of lubricate and seal when seating the new primers. (Better than scraping away brass). As long as flash holes, are clear, I've never had any problem. And a decapping die doesn't enlarge the primer pocket diameter like tumbling media can. People will dispute that, but If it's getting shiny and abrasive media of any kind is being used, material of some kind is being removed. If the SS or ceramic or abrasive additive media has a Mohs hardness greater than that of the brass, then some brass is going to be scratched away, especially during very long tumbling sessions when I get distracted and forget that I have a batch running. I can tell you that in jewelry making, you never tumble the ring or other casting for clean up before you set the stones. If you do, there is too little edge metal left to do the stone setting work, even with Platinum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Well, I just use water, Simple Green and Lemi Shine. Decap brass before the wet tumble in the Frankford Arsenal for one hour. No pins. Didn't see how it's going to enlarge any primer pockets. 140 C45S shot yesterday loaded with BlackMZ. After one hour in Frankford Arsenal with just Simply Green and Lemi Shine. The secondary reason I like decap and clean before reloading is the I don't get all the carbon crap from the dead primers messing up the Dillon 550B. The first reason, Sawmill Mary hand primes all the cases with an RCBS priming tool. She can inspect the cases as she's going along. She finds any that the pocket us loose or case crack, etc. Never a high primer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Warden Callaway said: No pins. Didn't see how it's going to enlarge any primer pockets. Agree. Without pins or other media, pocket enlargement isn't going to happen. Nothing gets in there to abrade the brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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