Jack-Knife Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Howdy all - Getting my gear together and considering buying a Uberti Cattleman El Patron to go with my ruger new vaquero instead of having 2 matching vaqueros. Got into SASS due to the love of historic firearms (have an 1873 lever) and wondering if there are any real disadvantages to mixed 6 guns other than the obvious manual of arms. Both would be 5.5 inches 357 magnum. Holsters are made for vaqueros but I think the form factor is similar enough. Appreciate the advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 There is no need to have a "matched pair" of pistols. In fact, I've got at least 25 SASS type guns, and only 2 truly matched pairs, a couple of Nagants, albeit with different front sights, and a pair of 58 Remmies, but with different ejectors. Granted, many of my other guns are very similar, with only the barrel length and/or finish differing. But sometimes I pair up two guns that are radically different just for the fun of doing so. It may help that I shoot "double duelist" style as opposed to shooting everything with the same hand, so I really don't notice the differences. I have noticed that the folks who are the loudest advocates of needing a matched pair seem to be those who shoot everything with the same hand using a 2 handed grip. Take it with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 The only disadvantage to "mixed" pistols is 1) any difficulty you might have due to different configurations (grip shape, hammer spur differences, etc.); and 2) logistically, if you use guns with different cartridges. If those two aren't a problem, then...have at it! Welcome to the campfire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ The Red Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I think the answer is going to be, shoot what you like. I have only been shooting for a year, but I have learned that if it is a SASS legal weapon you can shoot what you want. Take a look at the SASS Shooters Handbook categories and make sure your weapons fit into the category you intend to shoot. The biggest advantage to the .38 is the lower cost for reloading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Rick Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 My advice is to go to a local match with what you have and borrow what you don't - especially if considering going with something other than what you already have. Contact the match director in advance and introduce yourself and tell them your situation. Most match directors can wrangle up enough firearms and ammunition fire you to shoot each stage with something different. Try before you buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, Chief Rick said: Try before you buy. THIS ^^^^ If you have never shot one go to a match and see how you like the same or very similar firearm. Will save you money in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tucker McNeely Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Enjoy what you have now. If the bug bites you, you will find reason to procure more guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 My ex used to call it Cowboy Heroin...and get yourself a good hat Imis and welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 The only problem that I would have is loading a Ruger that hasn't been modified to load like a Colt. You may run into the opposite problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bramble Mountain Buzzard Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Around here it's ACME. I mean, if it's good enough for Wile E. Coyote, who am I to argue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 As above try before you buy. I used to own a set of Uberti El Patron's and I kick myself about once a month for ever selling them. I will buy another set one day, you can also get them with 1860 grips so if you have big paws try that out before you buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Depends on your goals in Cowboy Action Shooting. If your idea of fun and grins is to someday get fast and eventually winning categories and such, you'll want matching guns that feel the same, run the same. If your idea of fun and grins is a nice day with friends throwing lead downrange without too much regard to placement, what the heck... whatever brings a smile to your face. Myself, I'm somewhere in the middle. So, I often switch off to other guns, calibers, barrel lengths and powders... but always in a matched set. In the end, it's whatever pleases you. Go to a match, wrap your hands around various guns and see what fits you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Welcome to the best game and folks goin Knifetoagunfight. I started with mis- matched guns and just had a bit of an awkward feeling when switching guns as I shoot 2 handed. With the grips being different, they pointed different. Wasn't the end of the world however and might give you a chance to see which you prefer. Hang on for the addiction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fence Cutter Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Doesn't matter to me what I'm using. Depending on the day I may be using two different calibers and different barrel lengths. The grips may also be mixed - birdshead, ploughshare, or 1860 Army. My only preference is to have the longer barrel in my weak side cross draw holster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 It's been 27 years ago, but the first revolvers I used for CAS would have been mixed finishes/calibers/barrel length. I shoot something different every match, and change categories several times a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack-Knife Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 Thanks ya'll! Starting out fresh with so many options; appreciate all the feedback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Skinner Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I am of the playing cowboy school. I own 5 sets of matched pistols. I shoot gunfighter and matched guns are far better for that style and for double duelist. If those styles are a possibility I would get a match for your Ruger. Just my thoughts on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 i started out with mismatched and still have a set of those , i do have a matched set of vaqueros but i will be honest and admit i shoot both sets equally well , my main set is 5.5 matched but the backups are a 5.5 taurus that is slicked and a 4.75 vaquero so they are really miss-matched , the big thing is all have similar grip scales so they feel quite similar , in the past i mixed in a variety of uberti , cimmeron , pietta offerings of every length and grip style , you are bound to want to try something once in a while - it adds to the fun , go with it and enjoy it , its always cheaper when a friendly cowpoke lets you try one before you buy it , but we all get a few and part with a few over the years , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driftwood Johnson, SASS #38283 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Howdy Who says you have to have matching pistols? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Hangtree Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 15 hours ago, Driftwood Johnson, SASS #38283 said: Howdy Who says you have to have matching pistols? Wait a minute, Driftwood! Those match . . . they're both shiny and they both look funny! So there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 There aint nothin wrong with mis-matched sixguns. I usually use two rugers, but of different barrel lengths. I swap one out for my first gen Colt when I feel like it. Only thing I would say is watch out if you end up with two different calibers that are easily confused (at a glance). My rugers are 45colt, the colt is 44-40, and aside from my 45colt rifles, I have a model 94 trapper in 44mag that I just love to shoot. Whilst plinking one day (I hate the world "practice"), I accidentally loaded some 44mag cowboy loads in my old style 45colt ruger vaqueros. They fired, and they hit paper, but them shells sure looked funny when I ejected them. Thankfully no damage since them Rugers hold up to some very stout hunting loads, but not all guns are as strong as those old style Ruger tanks. Since then (it was long ago), if I am going to be shooting different similar looking ammo, I color the primers with different color sharpie pens just to keep things straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 On 10/2/2019 at 8:03 PM, Bull Skinner said: I am of the playing cowboy school. I own 5 sets of matched pistols. I shoot gunfighter and matched guns are far better for that style and for double duelist. If those styles are a possibility I would get a match for your Ruger. Just my thoughts on the subject. I’ve been shooting gunfighter since I started five years ago and until a couple of months ago I never even owned matched pistols. Not only do I use different guns, but also different calibers sometimes. And when I’m playing Rafe Covington, I use a schofield with smokeless and an open top with BP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Skinner Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 3 hours ago, El Hombre Sin Nombre said: I’ve been shooting gunfighter since I started five years ago and until a couple of months ago I never even owned matched pistols. Not only do I use different guns, but also different calibers sometimes. And when I’m playing Rafe Covington, I use a schofield with smokeless and an open top with BP. The good Lord made us all unique and you and I are examples of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 amen to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levi littleton Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Bull Skinner said: The good Lord made us all unique and you and I are examples of it! Geezus..please don't encourage him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Skinner Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Gentleman, never said he had to shoot matching pistols! I have shot mismatches On occasion me ownself. I said if he was ever gonna shoot gunfighter it’d make his life easier is all. Jeesh! My opinion, not a mandate. Some of ya take this here GAME a little too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Bull Skinner said: Gentleman, never said he had to shoot matching pistols! I have shot mismatches On occasion me ownself. I said if he was ever gonna shoot gunfighter it’d make his life easier is all. Jeesh! My opinion, not a mandate. Some of ya take this here GAME a little too seriously. I believe he is referring to me, and calling me divinely unique might encourage me to start thinking of myself as a one of a kind special snowflake and start behaving accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levi littleton Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 El Hombre? Start? When I started shooting SASS you only needed one hand gun. When we went to two guns pretty much most folk had mis-matched guns. Over time ya figured out if it actually mattered to your own shooting or simply what worked best/easiest for you. I like duplicate pairs myself. But there was a time not too long ago that I couldn't afford even one of the guns in this photo let alone a dbl gun rig to put two in. I've learned that I'm not skilled enough to manage more than one weapon system at a time, so I stick to the duplicates and try to concentrate on the shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 hours ago, levi littleton said: El Hombre? Start? When I started shooting SASS you only needed one hand gun. When we went to two guns pretty much most folk had mis-matched guns. Over time ya figured out if it actually mattered to your own shooting or simply what worked best/easiest for you. I like duplicate pairs myself. But there was a time not too long ago that I couldn't afford even one of the guns in this photo let alone a dbl gun rig to put two in. I've learned that I'm not skilled enough to manage more than one weapon system at a time, so I stick to the duplicates and try to concentrate on the shooting. Those are some good looking shooting irons. Is it deja Vu, or have I seen those before? Sure do look familiar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Skinner Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 7 hours ago, El Hombre Sin Nombre said: I believe he is referring to me, and calling me divinely unique might encourage me to start thinking of myself as a one of a kind special snowflake and start behaving accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 10/4/2019 at 1:10 AM, Driftwood Johnson, SASS #38283 said: Howdy Who says you have to have matching pistols? Something seems to be missing from your Merwin, Driftwood. Of course, if you look at these guns closely, you see that the Merwin and the Smith have a lot of similarities. And not just in caliber. (.44 Russian for Driftwood, .44-40 for me.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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