Croc Holiday Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 He there... I have a Steoger Supreme that's not cocking one barrel. I have it apart for cleaning and the little arm goes back, the spring resists but it doesn't catch. Tried some oil to free it up but no luck. Hoping someone has seen this and can shed light on why she's misbehaving. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 The trigger may be stuck. The hammer sears are right next to each other and one may be rubbing on the other and not functioning right. That is the first thing that comes to mind. Is this a new gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Take the stock off and take a look at the innards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Holiday Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Flash said: The trigger may be stuck. The hammer sears are right next to each other and one may be rubbing on the other and not functioning right. That is the first thing that comes to mind. Is this a new gun? I bought it as used but I don't think it was, at least not that I could see. If it was used, it was very lightly used. I plan to open it up when I get home but was hoping for a couple of likely suspects to look for when I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, Croc Holiday said: I bought it as used but I don't think it was, at least not that I could see. If it was used, it was very lightly used. I plan to open it up when I get home but was hoping for a couple of likely suspects to look for when I do. It is a pretty simple design and once you get it open you will see the trigger springs and hammer sears and should be about to tell why it is not working hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 is it new? take the stock off and open the action,, watch as the barrels fall open to cock it,,, no? with it open with a screwdriver or such finish cocking it,, does it catch then, no? sear may be worn,,, yes,,,? find a shim and place it in the slot where the locking lug goes and assemble it,,,does it cock then? look in the slots in the forearm,, have they been ground on or are they stock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Here is a video that may help you get it open if you have not done it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Holiday Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 Thanks for the input. I'll take it apart and see if I can spot which part has betrayed me. Thanks for the video Flash! I was going to watch that one to see how to get it apart (haven't done that yet). Maybe I'll slick it while I'm there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc X Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 The spring he points to and shortens in that video is NOT the cocking spring. It is the top lever spring and it only effects the pressure it takes to move the lever to unlock the gun and keeps the gun locked when it fires. Do not shorten it unless you completely understand what locks up a side by side. Removing the auto safety feature will reduce the opening force needed. If the lever takes too much effort to move buy a lightened spring from Longhunter for $5. I followed this exact video and shortened my spring. Less than one season later my Stoeger was opening up and misfiring after the first barrel because my cut spring was not keeping the locking slide forward under recoil. It took a professional gunsmith to fix my damage. Unless you know what you're doing send your gun to a pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Slim SASS #24733 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Usually better to use a lighter spring than cut the existing spring, in my experience. Just did that to my son's Stoeger. He likes it much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Henry Parker SASS#76661 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 The springs on one of mine was rubbing the stock on the inside . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 ruger springs work great, just shorten them to fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokestack SASS#87384 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Pull he forend off and look for grooves worn by the cocking levers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc X Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 12 hours ago, Smokestack SASS#87384 said: Pull he forend off and look for grooves worn by the cocking levers. While we had mine apart I was amazed at the wear in the forend from the cocking levers in only a year. My smith polished the ends of the levers to lessen them digging into the cap, then we applied white lithium grease to them to help with wear. This actually made a very noticeable difference in the force required for cocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Holiday Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 Got it! There was a tiny piece of cinder gravel under the trigger lever (sear?). It wasn’t letting the trigger all the way down so it couldn’t cock the hammer. Pic of gravel with a pin back for scale and where it was lodged. Should have snapped a pic of it under the spring but didn’t think about it till after it was out. Wanted to share in case someone else has the same issue some time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, Croc Holiday said: Got it! There was a tiny piece of cinder gravel under the trigger lever (sear?). It wasn’t letting the trigger all the way down so it couldn’t cock the hammer. Pic of gravel with a pin back for scale and where it was lodged. Should have snapped a pic of it under the spring but didn’t think about it till after it was out. Wanted to share in case someone else has the same issue some time... Those pesky cinder gravel! Glad you worked it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Probably from when they made the gun. That little piece just rolled around inside until it found the most inconvenient place to lodge. Glad you got it fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Holiday Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said: Probably from when they made the gun. That little piece just rolled around inside until it found the most inconvenient place to lodge. Glad you got it fixed. Our range has a lot of that stuff so I suspect it was home grown. Not sure how it made it in there though. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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